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Post by ty on May 16, 2011 14:52:07 GMT -5
Ron Paul Tells Mississippi Flood Victims To Build Their Own Leveeswww.politicususa.com/en/ron-paul-levees""I like Ron Paul as a person, but this is just bat shit crazy. It was the last great flood of the Mississippi in 1927 that led to the creation of the federal levee system. We can’t leave natural disaster prevention and relief up to the state and local governments because we need on unified standard of protection. The Mississippi River is 2,320 miles long. If flood protection is left at the local level, it would only be a matter of time before a flood occurred that killed thousands of Americans because state and local governments do not have adequate resources to put into flood protection."" What does he expect the old people and the poor folks to do. Pull a levy outta their azz and set it up. This man is just freaking loony. Damn Ron, put the crack pie down before you speak.
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Post by cme1201 on May 16, 2011 15:02:21 GMT -5
Ron Paul Tells Mississippi Flood Victims To Build Their Own Leveeswww.politicususa.com/en/ron-paul-levees""I like Ron Paul as a person, but this is just bat shit crazy. It was the last great flood of the Mississippi in 1927 that led to the creation of the federal levee system. We can’t leave natural disaster prevention and relief up to the state and local governments because we need on unified standard of protection. The Mississippi River is 2,320 miles long. If flood protection is left at the local level, it would only be a matter of time before a flood occurred that killed thousands of Americans because state and local governments do not have adequate resources to put into flood protection."" What does he expect the old people and the poor folks to do. Pull a levy outta their azz and set it up. This man is just freaking loony. Damn Ron, put the crack pie down before you speak. You really need to pick a side and stay on it Kreepy. So the Federal Government should be responsible for people who 1. Choose to live below Sea Level 2. Choose to live next to a moving mass of water that has, will and continue to flow past it's bank when storms cause the river to crest. But in your mind a father can't make the determination that his child should live a vegetative state, while paying his own money for the up keep (because as you said when dad's gone he's gonna be on medicaid/medicare) Deal with the consequences of your bad choices, choose to live in an area that can-has-will flood, be prepared for the results.
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Post by ty on May 16, 2011 15:17:18 GMT -5
Ron Paul Tells Mississippi Flood Victims To Build Their Own Leveeswww.politicususa.com/en/ron-paul-levees""I like Ron Paul as a person, but this is just bat shit crazy. It was the last great flood of the Mississippi in 1927 that led to the creation of the federal levee system. We can’t leave natural disaster prevention and relief up to the state and local governments because we need on unified standard of protection. The Mississippi River is 2,320 miles long. If flood protection is left at the local level, it would only be a matter of time before a flood occurred that killed thousands of Americans because state and local governments do not have adequate resources to put into flood protection."" What does he expect the old people and the poor folks to do. Pull a levy outta their azz and set it up. This man is just freaking loony. Damn Ron, put the crack pie down before you speak. You really need to pick a side and stay on it Kreepy. So the Federal Government should be responsible for people who 1. Choose to live below Sea Level 2. Choose to live next to a moving mass of water that has, will and continue to flow past it's bank when storms cause the river to crest. But in your mind a father can't make the determination that his child should live a vegetative state, while paying his own money for the up keep (because as you said when dad's gone he's gonna be on medicaid/medicare) Deal with the consequences of your bad choices, choose to live in an area that can-has-will flood, be prepared for the results. YAWN!
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Post by cme1201 on May 16, 2011 15:18:25 GMT -5
You really need to pick a side and stay on it Kreepy. So the Federal Government should be responsible for people who 1. Choose to live below Sea Level 2. Choose to live next to a moving mass of water that has, will and continue to flow past it's bank when storms cause the river to crest. But in your mind a father can't make the determination that his child should live a vegetative state, while paying his own money for the up keep (because as you said when dad's gone he's gonna be on medicaid/medicare) Deal with the consequences of your bad choices, choose to live in an area that can-has-will flood, be prepared for the results. YAWN! So you are tired of your own discussion or are you bored with the fact that you flip-flop worse than a fish on land?
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Post by ty on May 16, 2011 15:21:37 GMT -5
Stop trolling CME, you are looking for a fight you ain't going to get.
So take your fishing shit somewhere else.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 16, 2011 15:23:09 GMT -5
Ron Paul Tells Mississippi Flood Victims To Build Their Own Leveeswww.politicususa.com/en/ron-paul-levees""I like Ron Paul as a person, but this is just bat shit crazy. It was the last great flood of the Mississippi in 1927 that led to the creation of the federal levee system. We can’t leave natural disaster prevention and relief up to the state and local governments because we need on unified standard of protection. The Mississippi River is 2,320 miles long. If flood protection is left at the local level, it would only be a matter of time before a flood occurred that killed thousands of Americans because state and local governments do not have adequate resources to put into flood protection."" What does he expect the old people and the poor folks to do. Pull a levy outta their azz and set it up. This man is just freaking loony. Damn Ron, put the crack pie down before you speak. You know, Kreepy, in general never mind what I think about you, but on this one you get a solid K from me.
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Post by cme1201 on May 16, 2011 15:34:02 GMT -5
Stop trolling CME, you are looking for a fight you ain't going to get. So take your fishing shit somewhere else. I am doing neither sir. If you make a choice to live in places that are known to cause issues (live on the beach in a hurricane zone, build in tornado alley, make your home below sea level, build your business in a flood plane) you are taking the chance that "this could never happen to me" then you need to protect yourself NOT rely on the government to fix your problems when they arise (and you know they will arise)
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Post by marshabar1 on May 16, 2011 15:44:27 GMT -5
Stop trolling CME, you are looking for a fight you ain't going to get. So take your fishing shit somewhere else. I am doing neither sir. If you make a choice to live in places that are known to cause issues (live on the beach in a hurricane zone, build in tornado alley, make your home below sea level, build your business in a flood plane) you are taking the chance that "this could never happen to me" then you need to protect yourself NOT rely on the government to fix your problems when they arise (and you know they will arise) You know, cme, the Acadians who live in those swamps are descendants of French people who were forcibly thrown out of Canada by the British, their families, in many cases were split apart. Historically the people who live in these difficult places do so out of poverty and social weakness. Malibuans and Palm Springsians? Now that's another story. ;D
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Post by ty on May 16, 2011 15:57:22 GMT -5
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Post by marshabar1 on May 16, 2011 16:05:45 GMT -5
Thanks, Kreepy! ;D
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Post by fairlycrazy23 on May 16, 2011 16:07:46 GMT -5
I am doing neither sir. If you make a choice to live in places that are known to cause issues (live on the beach in a hurricane zone, build in tornado alley, make your home below sea level, build your business in a flood plane) you are taking the chance that "this could never happen to me" then you need to protect yourself NOT rely on the government to fix your problems when they arise (and you know they will arise) You know, cme, the Acadians who live in those swamps are descendants of French people who were forcibly thrown out of Canada by the British, their families, in many cases were split apart. Historically the people who live in these difficult places do so out of poverty and social weakness. Malibuans and Palm Springsians? Now that's another story. ;D That doesn't make it the Federal Governments responsibility. If the states don't have the resources to handle there own natural disasters how can the Federal Government have the resources, since it is from the states/people that it takes all of its resources.
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Post by ugonow on May 16, 2011 16:08:13 GMT -5
So Haley Barbour is out of line with those requests for federal aid? I don't think so,but that is jmo.----"MISSISSIPPI DELTA — Gov. Haley Barbour is requesting President Obama declare 14 counties in the Mississippi Delta as disaster areas as a result of ongoing and expected major flooding.
The counties requested include Adams, Bolivar, Claiborne, Coahoma, DeSoto, Jefferson, Humphreys, Issaquena, Sharkey, Tunica, Warren, Washington, Wilkinson and Yazoo counties. Other counties may be added as appropriate.
“These counties will be impacted by backwater flooding, and residents should take the necessary precautions now,” Barbour said. “This disaster declaration will help our local governments and state agencies prepare for the flooding and start helping those communities with recovery plans.”
State and federal officials are conducting coordinated preparation efforts under previously declared federal emergency. If granted, this request would provide additional federal aid to affected local governments, individuals and businesses.
The governor is requesting: public assistance for Categories A-G for the 14 counties; individual assistance including the Individuals and Households Program, Crisis Counseling, Disaster Unemployment Assistance, USDA food coupons and distribution, USDA food commodities, Disaster Legal Services, the Disaster Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program and Small Business Administration disaster loans for the 14 counties; and the Hazard Mitigation Grant Program statewide.
Source: Governor’s Office
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Post by fairlycrazy23 on May 16, 2011 16:11:48 GMT -5
Well, you have to work with the system we have, that doesn't make it right. So Haily Barbour is out of line with those requests for federal aid? I don't think so,but that is jmo.----"MISSISSIPPI DELTA — Gov. Haley Barbour is requesting President Obama declare 14 counties in the Mississippi Delta as disaster areas as a result of ongoing and expected major flooding. The counties requested include Adams, Bolivar, Claiborne, Coahoma, DeSoto, Jefferson, Humphreys, Issaquena, Sharkey, Tunica, Warren, Washington, Wilkinson and Yazoo counties. Other counties may be added as appropriate. “These counties will be impacted by backwater flooding, and residents should take the necessary precautions now,” Barbour said. “This disaster declaration will help our local governments and state agencies prepare for the flooding and start helping those communities with recovery plans.” State and federal officials are conducting coordinated preparation efforts under previously declared federal emergency. If granted, this request would provide additional federal aid to affected local governments, individuals and businesses. The governor is requesting: public assistance for Categories A-G for the 14 counties; individual assistance including the Individuals and Households Program, Crisis Counseling, Disaster Unemployment Assistance, USDA food coupons and distribution, USDA food commodities, Disaster Legal Services, the Disaster Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program and Small Business Administration disaster loans for the 14 counties; and the Hazard Mitigation Grant Program statewide. Source: Governor’s Office
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2011 16:22:08 GMT -5
Ron Paul is the Congressman for the district my son has his beach house in. Surfside, Tx. That beach house has been rebuilt 3 times in 3 generations due to hurricane damage. People in Surfside know the risks of owning there. There is some truth to what Paul says. Can't count the times we had to go board up the beach house and pray for the best. It is a way of life there. May be over the top for this case, but not always. As in the case of beach homes, mountain homes, etc. People choose to own cabins, beach houses, etc. That's different. Just my 2 cents.
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Post by mmhmm on May 16, 2011 16:26:20 GMT -5
The areas in Louisiana that are to be flooded are Cajun country. They're a pretty darned resourceful people, and the young and able will take care of the old and disabled. It's their way of life. While they might complain to the heavens, they'll do as they have always done. They'll make it.
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Post by ugonow on May 16, 2011 16:26:36 GMT -5
JMO, but someone that requests fed funds to study shrimp should not complain about people asking for disaster relief.
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Post by ❤ mollymouser ❤ on May 16, 2011 17:42:38 GMT -5
. . o O (I thought people from Palm Springs were called Palm Springsteens)
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2011 17:49:23 GMT -5
Kinda like Bruce in Paris, molly??
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Post by lakhota on May 16, 2011 18:40:36 GMT -5
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Post by vonnie6200 on May 16, 2011 18:52:11 GMT -5
He does have an interesting point
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Post by ty on May 16, 2011 18:57:31 GMT -5
You are welcome. On another article I read on the computer at the docs office today, I read that the rich people down there will have levies built to protect them and to hell with all the rest. That's just wrong imo. If you are going to protect one man/womans home, then you should be protecting them all regardless of their wealth status. I feel bad for those people stuck there that have no real way out, and to read this morning that the rich people will be protected and not the poor just made me sick to my stomach. Just wrong, very wrong...
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Post by vonnie6200 on May 16, 2011 19:04:19 GMT -5
You are welcome. On another article I read on the computer at the docs office today, I read that the rich people down there will have levies built to protect them and to hell with all the rest. That's just wrong imo. If you are going to protect one man/womans home, then you should be protecting them all regardless of their wealth status. I feel bad for those people stuck there that have no real way out, and to read this morning that the rich people will be protected and not the poor just made me sick to my stomach. Just wrong, very wrong... Wrong yes - and equally sad to me that the rural folks are being sacrificed to protect the larger cities
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2011 19:04:36 GMT -5
I feel for them, too. Gov't has a very poor record of taking care of disaster victims. FEMA stinks to high Heaven.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2011 19:07:23 GMT -5
I lived with my family in a very small town about 45 minutes south of Tucson. Ranchers, farmers, good folks. Can't imagine if gov't came in and said, "Sorry, guys. We have to protect Tucson." Very tough situation. But since gov't is looking at the bottom line, the country folks lose. Just the way it is.
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Post by Mad Dawg Wiccan on May 16, 2011 19:21:08 GMT -5
I don't believe the Feds pay for all construction of levees, the State has to bear at least part of the brunt. The Sacramento Delta is the #1 site for a potential disastrous flood due to levee failure (they were built over 100 years ago by farmers), and this has been known for many years. If the Feds were willing to pay for replacement, it would have been done long ago.
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Post by mmhmm on May 16, 2011 19:27:13 GMT -5
Many homes in our area are in such dense forest that there is no way they can be protected during a bad forest fire, which we get often. The homeowners know this and accept the risk. They buy good insurance and do what they can to protect themselves. Should it be the responsibility of the government to build huge brick fire walls around all these homes? Maybe the people in flood zones should think about building their homes on stilts? Not sure about Mississippi, but in Louisiana, the people who live, or wish to live in these areas are reminded yearly that a situation could arise that would require the opening of flood gates. It's a risk they're aware they're taking, and are constantly reminded of. It's sad, to be sure, and I wish them all the very best; however, they're not unaware of the risk they're taking.
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Post by formerexpat on May 16, 2011 21:07:53 GMT -5
Would people live below sea level [New Orleans] if it weren't for the federal government bailing them out in the event of a natural disaster?
Typically human nature is to adapt and move to locations that naturally allow humans to flourish. Limitless government aid to rebuild cities that should no longer be in place is just stupid.
How about we fund the efforts to rebuild Atlantis?
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Post by ty on May 16, 2011 21:11:15 GMT -5
Hey, I saw a Kitty video of a man and a cat a few days back and can't find it. Does anyone know the name of it, or the board it's posted on?
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Post by ty on May 16, 2011 21:12:54 GMT -5
Wrong yes - and equally sad to me that the rural folks are being sacrificed to protect the larger cities
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Post by ugonow on May 17, 2011 7:20:49 GMT -5
I don't know if it works the same way in other parts of the country, but here,anyone buying a house on a 100 yr.flood plain is required by their lender to purchase FEMA flood insurance. Of course once the loan is paid for,no one continues the coverage.
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