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Post by floridayankee on May 16, 2011 8:54:47 GMT -5
.... when it comes to thread titles.. I've seen a few around here and there that "spin" it to whatever the poster's opinion may be on a subject. then when you read the thread you find out that the title has little to do with the actual contents. starting now, if one is seen, you will likely be asked to make your title something more appropriate. and if you choose not to, don't be surprised if it's done for you.. ~moon mod Great, something new for the children to piss and moan about....the "honesty" of thread titles.
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on May 16, 2011 9:01:09 GMT -5
.... when it comes to thread titles.. I've seen a few around here and there that "spin" it to whatever the poster's opinion may be on a subject. then when you read the thread you find out that the title has little to do with the actual contents. starting now, if one is seen, you will likely be asked to make your title something more appropriate. and if you choose not to, don't be surprised if it's done for you.. ~moon mod Great, something new for the children to piss and moan about....the "honesty" of thread titles. I am sure people have complained and thus the reason for the thread.
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Post by deziloooooo on May 16, 2011 9:11:19 GMT -5
.... when it comes to thread titles.. I've seen a few around here and there that "spin" it to whatever the poster's opinion may be on a subject. then when you read the thread you find out that the title has little to do with the actual contents. starting now, if one is seen, you will likely be asked to make your title something more appropriate. and if you choose not to, don't be surprised if it's done for you.. ~moon mod Great, something new for the children to piss and moan about....the "honesty" of thread titles. I am assuming you were on the old zone before the ProBoard Florida, and if so, you remember when the MODS made changes to the way and acceptable and not acceptable way to post headers, inflammatory was no longer allowed, did you have a problem with that too? I didn't, in fact welcomed it and thought it was a great improvement but I realize some were up set about that decision.
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Post by floridayankee on May 16, 2011 9:30:26 GMT -5
I am assuming you were on the old zone before the ProBoard Florida, and if so, you remember when the MODS made changes to the way and acceptable and not acceptable way to post headers, inflammatory was no longer allowed, did you have a problem with that too?
I didn't, in fact welcomed it and thought it was a great improvement but I realize some were up set about that decision. Yeah...I was on the old boards dezi. Thought it was nit-picking then too. I'm older than 8 so I can figure out if a title is misleading and call the OP out myself. Not really much need for a mod to "shield me" from a misleading title. It's a little too "nannyish" for me. I guess I'm just sick of the petty BS from the idiot posters that are nothing more than political mudslingers that cause these rules to be established in the first place. I can see this board heading the way of the old MSN boards towards over moderation.....maybe not today...maybe not tomorrow...but the idiot posters will cause more and more rules to be implemented and we'll get there eventually. The idiots always f' it up for everybody else.
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Post by deziloooooo on May 16, 2011 9:47:02 GMT -5
Gotcha, but I don't think we will, see that here, moon seems to be very reasonable and to me Tenn and denim too. I caught some one really venting on her personally yesterday and if it was me , my property, zap..Gone[Why I am not allowed that power , ] Possible if she has the time, set up a proboard, all venting, dissing allowed , just keep the language under control , and possible, she just goes in once a week, say Sunday at midnight, clean up the really bad stuff, no comments , leave till the next Sunday. Any here getting out of control, just send them to the x rated zone.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 16, 2011 9:55:06 GMT -5
.... when it comes to thread titles.. I've seen a few around here and there that "spin" it to whatever the poster's opinion may be on a subject. then when you read the thread you find out that the title has little to do with the actual contents. starting now, if one is seen, you will likely be asked to make your title something more appropriate. and if you choose not to, don't be surprised if it's done for you.. ~moon mod There's still a thread that appears to suggest that Newt Gingrich favors the federal individual mandate contained in ObamaCare. This was shown by me and several others to be false within the thread, and by quoting the original article. When can we expect to see changes? You know, I'm inching closer to giving you all a little time off. I will continue to make posts as long as I'm permitted to post MY OWN INTERPRETATION of what an article, blog post, or other referenced source is saying. If this forum continues to be dominated by liberal moderators afraid of having their ideas challenged-- don't look for me on here any longer. I have actual productive work to do- I'm here mostly for the fun of it, and because I don't fear having my own views challenged (though admittedly, liberalism is less of an intellectual challenge by the second), but rather look forward to vigorous discussion, unsanitized, unvarnish, and as long as it's free from personal attacks, insults, racism, bigotry, etc.-- anything that complies with the CoC goes. We don't need moderators deciding if an opinion is sufficiently sterile to be posted.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 16, 2011 9:56:31 GMT -5
Just the facts? Uh oh...there go the liberals here. We'll miss you!
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Post by deziloooooo on May 16, 2011 10:01:17 GMT -5
Run out of anything to say?
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Post by chiver78 on May 16, 2011 10:04:08 GMT -5
wow.
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Post by moon/Laura on May 16, 2011 10:08:11 GMT -5
Paul, i've stated many times that i don't read every thread on here, so if the gingrich title is misleading vs what the article contents say, i wouldn't have noticed. i only noticed kreepy's because i read that thread. i am not going to go on hunt for stuff, but if it is pointed out and i agree that it's misleading then it will be addressed.
as far as posting your interpretation, you may do so, in a POST in the thread.. i don't really feel that's so unreasonable
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Post by deziloooooo on May 16, 2011 10:10:19 GMT -5
wow. Not me, , just don't the post...
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Post by chiver78 on May 16, 2011 10:12:19 GMT -5
wow. Not me, , just don't the post... I didn't mean you, sorry. just the OP.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 16, 2011 10:15:59 GMT -5
There's also still a post out there insisting that Tom Coburn helped cover up disgraced Senator Ensign's affair. While there's every indication that Coburn confronted Ensign about the affair, there are no FACTS supporting this obviously deliberately false and inflammatory thread title. When will it be changed?
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Post by billisonboard on May 16, 2011 10:24:16 GMT -5
There's also still a post out there insisting that Tom Coburn helped cover up disgraced Senator Ensign's affair. ... Thread Title: ENSIGN DAMNED: Coburn Helped Cover Up Affair ... I think he did probably try to keep the affair quiet- ... So what is your problem with the title?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 16, 2011 10:26:51 GMT -5
It's my opinion. And not blurting something out is different than suggesting an illegal coverup.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 16, 2011 10:28:00 GMT -5
Bottom line is that whole thread's intent is to suggest that Tom Coburn is guilty of ethics violations, and maybe even criminal behavior. The FACTS do not support that. You can say, as I did, that "I think" something. You can say, "Some are suggesting". I'm sure you'll figure something out-- get modifying.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 16, 2011 10:31:17 GMT -5
I left MSN, krickitt. No plans to return. I just don't like it there. I don't like the person I become when I have disagreements with others there. I am not a mean person by nature. I like people, but only respectful, honest types. Well, it was nice seeing you for about ten minutes here. Guess you'll be movin' on! ;D
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Post by floridayankee on May 16, 2011 10:31:17 GMT -5
Gotcha, but I don't think we will, see that here, moon seems to be very reasonable and to me Tenn and denim too. Every time a new rule is added to the CoC, we get arguments about this and that. Watch now as threads disintegrate in to an argument about whether the thread title is truthful or not...whether each OP is consistent with the opening title....cry's about why their thread was changed and another was allow to stand. Just one more rule for the crybabies to cry about.
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Post by moon/Laura on May 16, 2011 10:36:28 GMT -5
yankee, this has not been added to the CoC.. it's a simple request...
and i don't intend to be a nazi about it.. but if there's blatant misleading being done that's a bit different.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 16, 2011 10:39:22 GMT -5
Gotcha, but I don't think we will, see that here, moon seems to be very reasonable and to me Tenn and denim too. Every time a new rule is added to the CoC, we get arguments about this and that. Watch now as threads disintegrate in to an argument about whether the thread title is truthful or not...whether each OP is consistent with the opening title....cry's about why their thread was changed and another was allow to stand. Just one more rule for the crybabies to cry about. I tried to stay away from the argument that the mods here are mostly liberal (true), and therefore make up the rules as they go along to stiffle debate and skew the boards to the left (something I really didn't think was true). But it's much harder to deny there's a bias here now. At a minimum, it's difficult to deny that the mods play favorites. It seems as though once a week we get a new rule that either directly, or indirectly-- but no less transparently-- targets a specific post, or a specific thread the moderators don't like. The CoC is sufficient to cover obvious troll posts, and bomb throwing. This special rule simply has no other purpose but to provide the moderators with the arbitrary authority to do the ridiculous: to determine whether a headline is "factual" or just an "opinion". Based on that Lak's couldn't even start a thread here...unless, the rule is there to effectively silence, censor, or arbitrarily modify some posters while ignoring others. It's a lousy rule for a forum where we're supposed to be having a discussion, and where it's ALL assumed to be opinion anyway unless or until someone can make their case to the other posters. Headlines present the argument from the perspective of the poster-- be it me, or Lak, or anyone else. It is helpful to me to see Lak's headlines because it helps me see how the debate is going to be set, and the point that's being made. As I said- if we're going to discuss "facts"...then from MY point of view, no liberals are allowed here anymore.
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on May 16, 2011 10:43:56 GMT -5
I disagree that the mods play favorites. The board moderation, in my judgement, are very lenient. Moon, Tenn, Dem and the others are doing a great job here.
I am as right leaning as they get here, and I have never received a warning, deleted post, nor have I been banned.
This is just my opinion.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 16, 2011 10:50:09 GMT -5
I'm curious about the "No liberals allowed here" thread that was move to this thread. Where does it start?
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Post by Tennesseer on May 16, 2011 11:05:28 GMT -5
Marshabar-reply #70 on this page. Remember the title of this particular thread when you read it.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 16, 2011 11:09:53 GMT -5
Every time a new rule is added to the CoC, we get arguments about this and that. Watch now as threads disintegrate in to an argument about whether the thread title is truthful or not...whether each OP is consistent with the opening title....cry's about why their thread was changed and another was allow to stand. Just one more rule for the crybabies to cry about. I tried to stay away from the argument that the mods here are mostly liberal (true), and therefore make up the rules as they go along to stiffle debate and skew the boards to the left (something I really didn't think was true). palmbeachpaul-what you fail to mention (or maybe you never knew it), there were two conservative posters elected mods (Sanity Jones and Traelin0) they resigned/left the boards shortly thereafter.
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Post by deziloooooo on May 16, 2011 11:25:34 GMT -5
I disagree that the mods play favorites. The board moderation, in my judgement, are very lenient. Moon, Tenn, Dem and the others are doing a great job here. I am as right leaning as they get here, and I have never received a warning, deleted post, nor have I been banned. This is just my opinion. I agree , guess because I am a middle to the left, I have been coached at times, and when received, accepted it and in all cases, they had a point. As far as arbitrary decisions, to keep the zone on a high plane, as high as it is possible , what is so wrong with that, unless your suggesting cons posters want the ability to throw out what ever and see what happens. I hope not . Since you were on the old zone, the time outs, even the bans, quite common, to the point on time outs, people thought it was a badge of honor and bragged about them and even posted as such and then would dare them to, and when mods came back and did, would post stupidity's like it was a badge of honor when they came back...which might have been amusing to you, to me , it was BS. Here , bans , possible, one or two admitted, time outs , a hand full and think same ones. Here , the bias is in the eyes of but in reality..NO. I could, won't , post the one against moon yesterday, no way any one in their right mind would expect no action against..yet, no action. Let em vent a bit...now that is some hold back in my mind, possible not yours, but definitly in mine.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 16, 2011 11:27:23 GMT -5
I tried to stay away from the argument that the mods here are mostly liberal (true), and therefore make up the rules as they go along to stiffle debate and skew the boards to the left (something I really didn't think was true). palmbeachpaul-what you fail to mention (or maybe you never knew it), there were two conservative posters elected mods (Sanity Jones and Traelin0) they resigned/left the boards shortly thereafter. It might surprise you to learn that the opposition to Hugo Chavez also resigned. Or left the country. Or just disappeared.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2011 11:35:14 GMT -5
Where has safe gone? We need a conservative mod here. I've asked a few people that would be good-- no answer. No conservative even wants to moderate this board under current circumstances. Of course, the majority of conservative posters here would not be ALLOWED to run. Conservatives are bailing on this board. I have even found a new board. New name, anonymous, no problems posting with the liberals there. Guess that is what some people on this board want. Then it can be a boring, chit-chat, like minded political board. Savoir-- are you going to step up and run?
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2011 11:38:53 GMT -5
PLUS-- someone please check Ed's status?? He was banned beyond his ban, Moon fixed it, ONE post since then. He is either banned again after his one post, or he just left. Since it was set wrong before, I request you check his status again, please.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2011 12:18:39 GMT -5
Thx, Dem. I guess he just left.
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on May 16, 2011 13:21:44 GMT -5
I disagree that the mods play favorites. The board moderation, in my judgement, are very lenient. Moon, Tenn, Dem and the others are doing a great job here. I am as right leaning as they get here, and I have never received a warning, deleted post, nor have I been banned. This is just my opinion. I don't really think I've seen you post on this board very often SF.
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