AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 13, 2011 11:27:07 GMT -5
Will NOT back off of his failed RomneyCare program.
So, Romney is out. I guess this is his way of running without the threat of winning. He must have something else in mind-- he must know what that means, and he did this deliberately. Either that, or he's extremely out of touch and that means not qualified to lead. Either way, I'm glad he's gone.
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Post by youngmindoldframe on May 13, 2011 11:41:35 GMT -5
I have not read anything about Romney being out of the race.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 13, 2011 11:42:37 GMT -5
He may think he's in, but he's out. By conscious act, or by act of stupidity-- but he's out.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2011 11:48:02 GMT -5
Disagree. I'm not giving up on Romney over insurance. His point that states should do their own thing is valid. I also can view him as being a person with the experience from Romneycare to lead prudently on healthcare issues. Romney is a business whiz-- we need one. Not that it matters, though. Want to see "good" Christians eat their own-- just try to put a Mormon in the WH. That was NOT directed at you, Paul,as I have zero idea on your stance on his religion.
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Post by EVT1 on May 13, 2011 11:52:10 GMT -5
Why should he back off? It worked for his state and he should own it. It's a hell of a lot more respectable than going against yourself.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2011 11:54:12 GMT -5
Absolutely. Integrity.
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Post by Opti on May 13, 2011 12:05:23 GMT -5
The video gave me an error so I couldn't watch it. I'm wondering what PBP thinks he should be doing. Given your opinion on Trump and his win/win situation I'm inclined to think nothing really has changed for Romney.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 13, 2011 12:06:58 GMT -5
I can't see Romney. Something dead behind the eyes or too slick or something. Funny how your eyes and perception just slide right over some people. Sort of like white noise, everything all canceled out. Strange phenomenon. No there, there.
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on May 13, 2011 12:13:45 GMT -5
What's so great about our present Pub system that bankrupts the country, is incredibly cruel and kills 45K per year? You are SORELY misled. States rights is code for regressive and corrupt...
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on May 13, 2011 12:18:13 GMT -5
Something dead behind the eyes or too slick or something. Funny how your eyes and perception just slide right over some people. Sort of like white noise, everything all canceled out. Strange phenomenon. No there, there.
Too many voters rely on gossip and guessing character. Pfffft. Policy. Policy. Policy.
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Post by youngmindoldframe on May 13, 2011 12:26:15 GMT -5
Whom if not Mr. Romney? I certainly will not vote for Newt or Huckabee and not for any of the candidates I watched during the first debate.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 13, 2011 12:58:46 GMT -5
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Post by deziloooooo on May 13, 2011 13:12:56 GMT -5
Forgetting Romney specifically , personally for a Republican I would consider him as a possible POTUS, the thing is that , IMHO, to much is expected with all candidates to have the exact thoughts on topics as the voter has who is considering voting for them.
The litmus test seems to be to get ones support , you better be the same as I on topics , say 95 % of the time and where we differ, it better be minor points that while voter is not happy, since they know they are right on the beliefs and they, candidate is wrong, we will give them that but they better not go any farther in their beliefs.
The fact is that politics is a player on topics, consensus is a fact of life, not everything will be as one might want it, and there are facts and consequences on all these decisions that have to be considered and there is information they know , those elected, that we the populace really haven't a clue about, just ideas we have picked up in sound bytes from media sources, or beliefs instilled in us by possible acquaintances or even parents over the years, which in most cases have nothing to do with the way things really are and are mostly just poppy cock as far as reality is concerned.
That Romney is a Mormon , I do not expect his religious beliefs to influence his agenda and leadership. It didn't when he was Governor and see no reason where it would change if he was elected POTUS.
This goes with all candidates for the office. Kennedy as a practicing Catholic was not beholden to the Vatican, looking to that State for guidance, and I don't believe any evidence has come out from his short reign in office to refute that belief of mine.
The thing to look for is the man /woman running for office, would they be a good steward for the office and look out for the welfare of their constituents, the country and some one we can trust as being honest and wise in his/her decisions, and if they go a way from what we feel is the correct decisions on topics, able to trust them that , 'OK, give them the benefit of the doubt that they know something that we don't , thus their decision made is the correct one for the country's benefit and the majority of the populace, even if in particular, it might not be the best thing for me personally. In other words the big picture, to benefit the most is what is wanted.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 13, 2011 13:31:15 GMT -5
Something dead behind the eyes or too slick or something. Funny how your eyes and perception just slide right over some people. Sort of like white noise, everything all canceled out. Strange phenomenon. No there, there. Too many voters rely on gossip and guessing character. Pfffft. Policy. Policy. Policy. I sure looked at Obama's policies. Energy: Kill oil and coal, grow green.
Foreign: "a form of realism unafraid to deploy American power but mindful that its use must be tempered by practical limits and a dose of self-awareness" (Translated: The devil made me do it, heh heh.) Oh and rebuilding alliances? Social: More government more better.
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Post by floridayankee on May 13, 2011 15:09:51 GMT -5
Romneycare a big bustThe original article is archived and I cannot access it...this is excerpts from the Boston Herald article: blog.westandfirm.org/2011/04/graham-romneycare-big-bust.htmlOn the 4/12/2011 Boston Herald, Michael Graham describes how the Massachusetts "RomneyCare" health plan has been a big bust. A few excerpts: As a health care plan, Romneycare is an unmitigated fiasco. It has caused costs to skyrocket, insurance premiums to soar and nonprofit providers like Blue Cross to suffer hundreds of millions of dollars in losses... Taxpayers now spend $2.5 billion more on our state’s health care budget. The direct cost of Romneycare has gone from less than $100 million a year to at least $400 million -- and even that number is suspect... If you want to know why Romneycare's costs keep rising, check out this simple statistic from the Patrick administration: In 2006, 85 percent of the insured in Massachusetts got their coverage through private group coverage at work. Today that’s down to 79 percent. Meanwhile the percentage on the MassHealth dole has doubled, and more than 150,000 people are now subsidized through Commonwealth Care. Romneycare supporters like Brandeis University health policy professor Stuart Altman brag that "the basic reason for the reform was to extend coverage, and on this, we have done amazingly well." But that's only if you use the phrase "extend coverage" to mean "the government forced you to buy your own insurance." Romneycare hasn’t made that insurance more affordable -- just the opposite. Many people have seen their premiums double in the past five years. Supporters also never mention that when Romneycare was signed, Massachusetts already had one of the nation's lowest rates of uninsured...
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2011 16:16:25 GMT -5
Seems Huck is out. Good. He's too nice to be POTUS. I'd rather watch him play his guitar and do what he does on FOX.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 13, 2011 20:49:21 GMT -5
Actually I rather like Dennis Kucinich This would make tongues wag, his wife is interesting to say the least. Elizabeth KucinichFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Elizabeth Kucinich Born Elizabeth Jane Harper October 22, 1977 (1977-10-22) (age 33) North Ockendon, England Occupation Director of public affairs for the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine Spouse Dennis Kucinich (m. 2005–present) «start: (2005)»"Marriage: Dennis Kucinich to Elizabeth Kucinich" Location: Elizabeth Kucinich (born October 22, 1977) is director of public affairs for the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, and wife of the U.S. Congressman and former Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich. Contents 1 Early life and education 2 Career 3 Personal life 4 References 5 External links Early life and educationBorn Elizabeth Jane Harper, she was brought up in North Ockendon in the London Borough of Havering. She attended Coopers' Company and Coborn School in Cranham from 1989 to 1996. According to her mother, as a girl Kucinich "was always into human rights and the environment and delivered a petition on animal rights to Parliament when she was just 14." After leaving school she went to Agra, India to volunteer at one of Mother Teresa's homes for India's poorest children. On her return to the UK she earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in Religious Studies and Theology and Master of Arts degree in International Conflict Analysis (both from the University of Kent at Canterbury). The subject of her MA thesis was "Conflict Resolution in World Politics". CareerAfter university she spent 16 months in a rural Tanzanian village and worked as an advocate for regional development. After leaving Tanzania, she volunteered with a British Red Cross refugee unit, earned a certificate in Peace Studies from Coventry University and was employed as a fund-raiser for a seafarer's charity in London. Her volunteer work often brought her to the Forum for Stable Currencies at the House of Lords. At that time, she heard financial analyst Stephen Zarlenga speak about monetary reform. She was impressed and was soon hired to become Zarlenga's assistant at the Chicago-based American Monetary Institute. Kucinich is currently the director of public affairs for the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine. Personal lifeIn the course of her work with Zarlenga, she met Dennis Kucinich. He proposed to her during their second meeting and they married in 2005 in his hometown of Cleveland, Ohio. The Sunday Times noted that one of her heroines is Diana, Princess of Wales, partly for her bringing "compassion back into public life". She has her tongue pierced with a silver stud. Like her husband she is a vegan. She's gorgeous and smart. I don't agree with Dennis much, but he is CERTAINLY a straight forward honest man. He says what he thinks and he says it well. Not a member of the evil club.
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