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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 13:41:17 GMT -5
Barack Obama has announced that businesses seeking government contracts must disclose their political contributions. This has an immediate effect of intimidation. He claims this is in the interest of transparency. LOL He is transparently a thug. online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703730804576317340747736176.htmlPoliticians on both sides of the aisle don't like this. While I agree there must be a lot of shenanigans and payoffs going on, they are after all politicians, this stinks of partisan intimidation on Obama's part. Does anyone think for a moment Democrat contributors would be scrutinized? They'd be scrutinized about the same way the Obama Justice Dept scrutinized voter intimidation in Philadelphia. I can think of a lot of things I'd like this clear as a mud puddle administration to come clean about. Like the health care takeover they passed unread in the middle of the night for example. |
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Post by jkapp on May 11, 2011 13:45:56 GMT -5
Well at least is consistent in one thing in his presidency: He wants "transparency" in business political contributions and "transparency" in union voting. Both to be used as intimidation tactics... If only his "transparency" included his administration and the Fed Reserve...I think that's what most people thought he meant when he campaigned on more transparency in government. Duped again!  |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 13:45:42 GMT -5
What legitimate reason is there for gov't to know the politics of contractors?? None I can think of except to make sure your friends are rewarded and your enemies punished.
Let's not play the Pubs are rich, and Dems are poor game, either.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 13:50:21 GMT -5
The scariest thing is that I am not sure Obama even realizes that things he does are not right. I think he is so narcissistic he may really believe he is doing the best thing for all people. Either that, or he is just evil, and I'm not sure it goes that far.
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Post by jarhead1976 on May 11, 2011 13:50:26 GMT -5
What legitimate reason is there for gov't to know the politics of contractors?? None I can think of except to make sure your friends are rewarded and your enemies punished. Let's not play the Pubs are rich, and Dems are poor game, either. To make sure illegals get the job an American needs. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 13:53:30 GMT -5
Could be, jar. There is no way he will pass amnesty, so he needs to keep feeding them hope to get the votes.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 13:55:32 GMT -5
Jar-- what happened to your pretty avatar? My comp isn't showing it, just the box. hmm, it's back now..  |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 11, 2011 13:56:31 GMT -5
This is classic Chicago, Cook County, Illinois politics. You support the right people- you get rewarded, you don't and....
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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 13:57:16 GMT -5
Well at least is consistent in one thing in his presidency: He wants "transparency" in business political contributions and "transparency" in union voting. Both to be used as intimidation tactics... If only his "transparency" included his administration and the Fed Reserve...I think that's what most people thought he meant when he campaigned on more transparency in government. Duped again! True. And he seems to care not a fig what anybody thinks about it.  |
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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on May 11, 2011 14:39:12 GMT -5
Eh, I'll fight fire with fire with routine Conservative arguments. That's strange y'all make all politicians into evil people, so why are you complaining? ([Insert cake eat/have choice routine here]) (Also that's a vague statement: 1 Dem and 1 Repub?) If those people are so easily intimidated, find someone with more cajones. Well, if businesses don't like it they can go elsewhere. Or do you people hate the free market so much? Communists!  If Bush would have passed it, you would have fallen in love with it and would gleefully announce that you would partisianly hope he would go after Dems. Could all you pots form an orderly line and meet Mr. Kettle in a timely fashion? If they've done nothing wrong, then they've got nothing to hide, eh? You don't scrutinize reality very well, do you? It happened on Bush's watch, ergo he should take 100% responsibility. As far as I can tell, that's the first case of Pre-Obama derangement syndrome. Obama oversees the Federal Reserve too? Wow, you people sure don't give him enough credit. If you're going to go drum beating, at least put some kind of bridge between your statement and "contracts must disclose their political contributions." Or enjoy your stay in Nonsequitorville. Send us a koala! Be a darling and learn that a narcissistic person only cares for himself (so why would care about doing the best for others?) before spouting off your retinue of catchphrases and buzzwords. How's that buzzwordy, catch phrasey thingie working out for ya? |
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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 14:43:01 GMT -5
Jar-- what happened to your pretty avatar? My comp isn't showing it, just the box. hmm, it's back now.. That is pretty isn't it?  Pleasant to look at. I like your little white kitty too although in general I'm not a cat person. Hate being bossed around. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 19:14:52 GMT -5
I'm getting tired of my kitty, kinda.....Hey, I talked to Virgil the other day because one of his threads kept sending WARNING INFECTED to my comp.... he told me it has happened before on his board, and is infected avatars. Weird, huh? No one saw it but me.. my security stuff is crazy high because I go all over.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 19:31:28 GMT -5
It looks like Google Image might have set up a new protocol that will stop this rash of phony warnings. Different access when I looked for an image today. Hope they've fixed it.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 19:37:32 GMT -5
Hopefully. I haven't been doing pics lately because of the issues. I have to be careful to not get my comp in to something I can't figure out how to fix. But now--- (pump Comcast)-- I can get free remote access-- used it last week. Go, Comcast!!! Kinda weird having someone in a foreign country in my comp, though.......  |
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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 19:41:47 GMT -5
Hopefully. I haven't been doing pics lately because of the issues. I have to be careful to not get my comp in to something I can't figure out how to fix. But now--- (pump Comcast)-- I can get free remote access-- used it last week. Go, Comcast!!! Kinda weird having someone in a foreign country in my comp, though....... Just always assume you're being watched but don't be paranoid about it.  |
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Post by deziloooooo on May 11, 2011 19:56:02 GMT -5
What legitimate reason is there for gov't to know the politics of contractors?? None I can think of except to make sure your friends are rewarded and your enemies punished. Let's not play the Pubs are rich, and Dems are poor game, either. Actually your not making sense here . It is a order that would be in effect for all administrations, not just his one, it doesn't change with the breeze. It is just giving transparency to the process which all have been calling for, since so many feel it's all about back room deals to reward this one or that one on Government contracts. Larg compabnies are giving money to different parties, it's a fact, nice to know who is giving what to whom. Think you will see a hedging of your bets , a lot to one but some to another. You all know that just because Obama suggests something it is not always wrong, partison. Here you see Democrats are against it too, which means these politicals of BOTH parties are in cahoots and wanting to keep the lid on these contributions, so you and I, the electorate are kept in the dark, the only one looking for transparency is the POTUS Yet the paranoia runs rampant, Obama wants something, it's a bad idea. Problem really is , so many of you feel this makes sense.  |
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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 20:08:16 GMT -5
Yes and remember, Dezi,  Republicans will have complete access to women's bodies someday if Obamacare isn't deep sixed. |
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on May 11, 2011 20:27:05 GMT -5
or you could get the non FOX story (which is written by a bought off cretin...) Obama weighs disclosure order for contractors - The ... President Obama is considering an order that would force government contractors to disclose their donations to groups ... in elections because many of those contributions ... www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-weighs-disclosure... |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 20:32:00 GMT -5
"Sorry, cannot locate the page you requested"
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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 21:43:57 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 21:50:19 GMT -5
I didn't think War would find anything he likes in the Post, because it is one of MY sources.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 21:52:13 GMT -5
Yeah, they're pretty straight up in their coverage of Obama and his bad ideas.
The White House and Democrats have defended the order -- which echoes previous legislative efforts to counter the Supreme Court’s ruling in the Citizens United case -- as a means of promoting transparency and accountability from federal contractors. Republicans have charged that it is an attempt to politicize the bidding process.
In the Citizens United case, the court ruled that companies can spend as much as they want to support or oppose individual candidates.
In addition to Hoyer, Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.), a member of the Oversight Committee whose northern Virginia district is home to thousands of contractors, said Tuesday that while he believes the administration’s intent is not to bring politics into the contracting process, the order could wind up having that effect.
“I understand and I support legislation to refine the Citizens United decision, which I think ranks as one of the most wretched Supreme Court decisions in American history,” Connolly said.
“Having said that, I am concerned that, surely unintentionally, the administration’s desire to get at transparency and accountability may also look like it’s having – or will have – a chilling effect on the ability of people freely to participate in the political process and donate as they see fit,” he continued. “So I think we’ve got to look at that before we embrace one approach or another.”
Connolly added that he believed Thursday’s hearing would provide an opportunity for members to have their questions on the executive order addressed by administration.
“I think we’ll have more clarity after that testimony,” Connolly said.
From WaPo source posted.
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Pleasant to look at. I like your little white kitty too although in general I'm not a cat person. Hate being bossed around. ;D
