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Post by ugonow on May 8, 2011 9:00:51 GMT -5
Article updated: 5/8/2011 8:09 AM TV preacher doesn’t deserve GOP support Article sent Click to close .Order reprint According to a recent article in Church and State magazine written by Joseph L. Conn: Texas-based TV preacher Kenneth Copeland takes in millions in tax-deductible donations each year. He and his wife, Gloria, live in a $6.2 million “parsonage” on 25 acres by a lake. He has a private cattle ranch, a power plant and oil and gas wells and drives several Harley-Davidson motorcycles, a Mercedes-Benz, a Cadillac and a Corvette convertible. His tax-exempt Kenneth Copeland Ministries has a fleet of airplanes and its own private airport. Advertisement Pentecostal colleagues gave him and Gloria a $2.1 million cash “gift” to celebrate his 70th birthday and their 40th anniversary in ministry. Operating as a church and almost entirely outside the purview of federal tax authorities, Copeland answers only to a KCM board stacked with family members and friends, the article said. And the Copelands will get richer and richer in the name of Jesus. Clyde Diven Read more: www.dailyherald.com/article/20110508/discuss/705089927/#ixzz1Lll3hkg2
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Post by ugonow on May 8, 2011 9:45:54 GMT -5
"T he Copeland's are Word of Faith preachers/teachers. Their "name it and claim it" fame have deceived millions around the world. These Word of Faith preachers all pretty much adhere to the same philosophy. They believe that you can become a little god. That you can proclaim your own health and wealth just by speaking it. That Jesus did not pay for our sins on the cross but went to hell for our atonement. They also say that its all your fault if you are not healthy and wealthy because you lack in faith.
These preachers teach that you have no reason to be poor because Jesus was not poor therefore if you are a follower of Jesus, you can and should be rich also. They claim that Jesus lived in a rich house by the sea and had so much money that He needed to appoint a treasurer to hold it all. They never once will say that maybe all the money Jesus and his followers had was a small amount and they kept it all together to keep it safe because they needed it so badly. Their claims are definitely one sided with prosperity being on their side of course.
About the Word of Faith movements the following had this to say:
Walter Martin of the Christian Research Institute said the following: "The study of the Kingdom of the Cults has taught me many profitable lessons, and this is one of them--error begets error; heresy begets heresy and always in the name of truth, always in the name of the gospel. Those who propagate these erroneous views ('little gods,' the 'born again Jesus,' and so on) have sadly crossed over into the kingdom of the cults and stand in need of genuine repentance, lest they come under the inevitability of divine judgment. It is dangerous, in the presence of God, to affirm oneself as a deity--even with a small 'g.' It is blasphemous to speak in the name of God and utter false prophecies. It is the height of theological folly to reduce God the Son, second Person of the holy Trinity, to a lost sinner with the nature of Satan and then send Him to hell with the requirement of regeneration before He can complete the work of redemption." (Walter Martin, "You Shall Be As Gods," Agony of Deceit, page 92-93)
John F. MacArthur, Jr. said the following: I received a mailing sent out by one rather extreme Word-Faith teacher named David Eppley (sp.). A brochure was included with a bar of prayer-blessed soap, quote,
We are going to wash away all bad luck, sickness, misfortunes, and evil! Yes, even that evil person you want out of your life. Jesus helped a man wash blindness from his eyes; I want to help you concerning hexes, vexes, home problems, love, happiness, and joy. (the brochure said).
Inside the brochure were testimonies from people who had been blessed by that ministry. "Door opens to new job!" said one. "An $80,000 dream comes true!" said another. "Couldn't use my hand for twelve years!" said another. Also inside was a personal letter from the pastor closing with a full page of instructions on how to use the soap. If you used it right it would bring you healing and money,
Now, after you wash the poverty from your hands, take out the largest bill or check you have. That $100, $50, or $20 bill, hold it in your clean hands and say, "In Jesus' name I dedicate this gift to God's work and expect a miracle return of money."
And of course, your largest bill or check must be sent to David Eppley (sp.).
The last paragraph said,
Through this gift of discernment, I see someone sending a $25 offering and God is showing me a large check coming to them in the next short while I mean "large;" it looks like over $1,000! I know this sounds strange but you know me well enough to know that I have to obey God when He speaks. I'll be here waiting for your answer.
Frankly, that sounds more like Black Magic. Certainly a more outrageous example than most, but still it reflects a style that is typical of nearly all Word-Faith ministries. If it was just plain hucksterism that would be bad enough. I guess I could tell you honestly, I could take Reverend Ike. I could take Reverend Ike because . . . (I don't know if you know who he is, but if you don't, don't worry about him)--but, I can take Reverend Ike because he uses the same gimmick, but he doesn't make it Christian! What corrupts so devastatingly is to tie this kind of con game into Christ!
Word-Faith teachers have corrupted the heart of New Testament Christianity. They have moved the believers' focus off sound doctrine, worship, service, sacrifice, and ministry; and they have shifted it instead to promised physical, financial, and material blessings. Those blessings are the cargo that God is supposed to deliver to those who know and follow the Word-Faith formula.
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Post by ugonow on May 8, 2011 9:54:54 GMT -5
Great business to get into.Very few regulations and no taxes.
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Post by billisonboard on May 8, 2011 9:59:23 GMT -5
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on May 8, 2011 10:17:06 GMT -5
...I'd be more interested if someone will do the math and compare this guy with a CEO of say, GM or Trump, Intl., and also compare expenses/charitable donations...
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2011 12:45:59 GMT -5
Side note here-- Aside from the leaders in UTAH, Mormons do not get paid for doing their jobs, which they see as callings. None of them. Every single Mormon church you see is operated, maintained, and supported by volunteers, the great majority of whom have full time jobs elsewhere. The Mormon church is a HUGE organization of volunteers. They also pay cash for everything, do not run lines of credit.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 9, 2011 13:46:28 GMT -5
Article updated: 5/8/2011 8:09 AM TV preacher doesn’t deserve GOP support Article sent Click to close .Order reprint According to a recent article in Church and State magazine written by Joseph L. Conn: Texas-based TV preacher Kenneth Copeland takes in millions in tax-deductible donations each year. He and his wife, Gloria, live in a $6.2 million “parsonage” on 25 acres by a lake. He has a private cattle ranch, a power plant and oil and gas wells and drives several Harley-Davidson motorcycles, a Mercedes-Benz, a Cadillac and a Corvette convertible. His tax-exempt Kenneth Copeland Ministries has a fleet of airplanes and its own private airport. Advertisement Pentecostal colleagues gave him and Gloria a $2.1 million cash “gift” to celebrate his 70th birthday and their 40th anniversary in ministry. Operating as a church and almost entirely outside the purview of federal tax authorities, Copeland answers only to a KCM board stacked with family members and friends, the article said. And the Copelands will get richer and richer in the name of Jesus. Clyde Diven Read more: www.dailyherald.com/article/20110508/discuss/705089927/#ixzz1Lll3hkg2Joseph L. Conn, the author of this story, isn't concerned that Christianity is getting off track and offering constructive criticism of false doctrine in order to help. Joseph L. Conn is a foaming at the mouth athiest and anti-Christian bigot. It's a Googleable world. There's an old saying: consider the source.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 9, 2011 13:48:36 GMT -5
Side note here-- Aside from the leaders in UTAH, Mormons do not get paid for doing their jobs, which they see as callings. None of them. Every single Mormon church you see is operated, maintained, and supported by volunteers, the great majority of whom have full time jobs elsewhere. The Mormon church is a HUGE organization of volunteers. They also pay cash for everything, do not run lines of credit. The Mormon Church is one of the wealthiest organizations on earth. They own and operate some of the largest businesses in the country. They run everything from car dealerships to grocery store chains. They hold billions in assets- it's actually quite an impressive financial organization. If they went public- I'd buy.
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Post by ugonow on May 9, 2011 13:57:45 GMT -5
I was not aware of that.In my quick research I see he is an advocate of seperation of church and state. But it is possible he is atheist...but I still think he is on target with both Copeland getting rich off the Lord and Barton wanting to meld government and religion. .Even Senator Grassley attempted to start investigations into these guys tax free status but was beat down by Huckabee and others.
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Post by ❤ mollymouser ❤ on May 9, 2011 14:06:15 GMT -5
If I see Copeland or his ilk on my TV, I always change the channel. Yuck.
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