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Post by marshabar1 on May 6, 2011 20:57:42 GMT -5
It's always amazing to get a glimpse into the workings of Barack Obama's mind.
He thinks showing the photo of a dead Bin Laden is somehow putting it in al Quaida's face?
Does anyone else think publishing the photo is putting it in al Quaida's face?
That thought would never in a million years have occurred to me.
When I considered the idea of the photo being made public, my thought was that it would be a hard thing to see because of the gore. Also it saddened me that so many children would necessarily see it. I think looking at gore desensitizes us to it. Same with porn. It somehow scars and desensitizes the mind. Breaks down protective taboo structures that are better in place.
But never did it occur to me to think it would somehow be a smart alecky thing to do. Who even thinks about obnoxious self-assertion at this level of international relations? It seems, as usual, to say more about Obama than about the situation.
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Post by billisonboard on May 6, 2011 21:01:42 GMT -5
It's always amazing to get a glimpse into the workings of Barack Obama's mind.
He thinks showing the photo of a dead Bin Laden is somehow putting it in al Quaida's face?
Does anyone else think publishing the photo is putting it in al Quaida's face?... Yes.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 6, 2011 21:10:27 GMT -5
Why?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2011 21:15:25 GMT -5
He is as he has always been, a Muslim sympathizer. They have been all over with their new threats. Who is he trying to fool? Not like they can get any more determined to kill us.. Or is it the silent Muslims that were not celebrating the death with us? Is it THEM he wants to shelter?? If so, why? Fear, loyalty, what? The only logical explanation is just what I said, or that he died so horribly all these people... UN asking questions today, too... that think OBL's rights were violated would have good fuel if the pics go out. We' will probably never know why.
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Post by billisonboard on May 6, 2011 21:23:39 GMT -5
Using your football analogy, it taking the "ball" and holding it up in front of the opposition showing them that we have "scored" on them. President Obama "spiked the football" today celebrating with his team. Clearly within the "rules" of sportsmanship.
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Post by cereb on May 6, 2011 21:27:05 GMT -5
Gee, did you Obama haters consider that he just might have the safety of those who continue to be deployed in the middle east in mind? ;D
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Post by marshabar1 on May 6, 2011 21:27:12 GMT -5
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Post by chiver78 on May 6, 2011 21:27:58 GMT -5
that doesn't mean he won't do his job to protect them.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 6, 2011 21:36:43 GMT -5
Using your football analogy, it taking the "ball" and holding it up in front of the opposition showing them that we have "scored" on them. President Obama "spiked the football" today celebrating with his team. Clearly within the "rules" of sportsmanship. No, Obama equated spiking the ball with gloating or reveling in bin Laden's death. Showing off. Rubbing it in. Do you think showing the photo would be doing those things?
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Post by billisonboard on May 6, 2011 21:46:30 GMT -5
Using your football analogy, it taking the "ball" and holding it up in front of the opposition showing them that we have "scored" on them. President Obama "spiked the football" today celebrating with his team. Clearly within the "rules" of sportsmanship. No, Obama equated spiking the ball with gloating or reveling in bin Laden's death. Showing off. Rubbing it in.
Do you think showing the photo would be doing those things?Don't really care how President Obama sees the football analogy. I was voicing how I see it. Yes, again I state that I think that showing the photo is "putting it in al Quaida's face." "(G)loating or reveling in bin Laden's death. Showing off. Rubbing it in." also are good descriptors.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 6, 2011 22:10:19 GMT -5
It's always amazing to get a glimpse into the workings of Barack Obama's mind. He thinks showing the photo of a dead Bin Laden is somehow putting it in al Quaida's face? Does anyone else think publishing the photo is putting it in al Quaida's face? That thought would never in a million years have occurred to me. When I considered the idea of the photo being made public, my thought was that it would be a hard thing to see because of the gore. Also it saddened me that so many children would necessarily see it. I think looking at gore desensitizes us to it. Same with porn. It somehow scars and desensitizes the mind. Breaks down protective taboo structures that are better in place. But never did it occur to me to think it would somehow be a smart alecky thing to do. Who even thinks about obnoxious self-assertion at this level of international relations? It seems, as usual, to say more about Obama than about the situation. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Topic: Is It the Brain Matter? (Read 149 times) Marshabar Is It the Brain Matter? « Thread Started Yesterday at 11:53 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Has Bambam decided not the release the Osama death photo because his brains are showing? Does he think the gore will inflame currently uninflamed Muslims to violence? Does he realize that Muslims in the Middle East routinely mosh their martyrs through the streets, hanging them out of cars, passing them overhead, wagging them in front of little children? Why the expensive hands on mission to provide indisputable proof that he is dead and then the decision to withhold that proof? I don't want to see the brain matter. I don't need to. I believe Osama Bin Laden is dead. I think he was as good as dead for many years. Irrelevant. But all over the Middle East people are denying his death, he has become relevant again. Iraqis felt better once they saw the Saddam's monster son was really dead. Won't many in the Middle East feel better knowing that the Bin Laden boogey man is really truly dead and gone once and for all? Closure? As long as this issue lives, Osama lives. --------------------------------------------------------------------- First you want President Obama to show the picture and now you don't?
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Post by Bluerobin on May 7, 2011 5:43:37 GMT -5
I say don't show the photos. We know we killed him. Let the rest of the terrorists wonder, and wonder and wonder.
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Post by txbo on May 7, 2011 6:10:13 GMT -5
Boo hoo about "inflaming Al Quaida". Wah, wah. They will become "inflamed" if you pick your nose with your left finger and scratch your testicles with your right. No matter what we do they are always "inflamed" blustering, threatening, etc. What we need to do is what we need to do and what is right and let the chips fall where they may. Obama seemed to have no problem releasing dozens of photos of Abu Gharib. He had no problem lifting the ban of showing caskets of our soldiers. Sadly, Obama's ulterior motives always involve himself, his campaign and his re-election. Those are the only things that propel his actions. Boo hoo, why are you always wrong? Is it because you hate Obama so much that you have to lie. The Abu Gharib pictures released in 2006. Remember the last administration that did every wrong.
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Post by ugonow on May 7, 2011 9:34:53 GMT -5
I find it ironic many of the same people that argued it would rile up terrorists and put troops in danger if they released the two thousand pics of enhanced interrogation tatics are now wanting this gruesome picture released. I think the groups reasoning was sound ,they wanted to see if the "loosening up" tatics we saw and read about at Abu were used at other camps and detention centers.I just don't think it was in the country's best interest to do so and Obama was right to refuse their release.
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Post by jarhead1976 on May 7, 2011 9:50:16 GMT -5
Using your football analogy, it taking the "ball" and holding it up in front of the opposition showing them that we have "scored" on them. President Obama "spiked the football" today celebrating with his team. Clearly within the "rules" of sportsmanship. Only In college ball is spiking the ball unsportsman like. This game was played by Professionals. Islamic jihads care little for what we think and do. Infidel
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Post by billisonboard on May 7, 2011 10:23:44 GMT -5
Using your football analogy, it taking the "ball" and holding it up in front of the opposition showing them that we have "scored" on them. President Obama "spiked the football" today celebrating with his team. Clearly within the "rules" of sportsmanship. Only In college ball is spiking the ball unsportsman like. This game was played by Professionals. Islamic jihads care little for what we think and do Infidel. So what is the rule for professionals: NFL football Taunting and extreme celebration are both offenses in the NFL; as a result, gaudy displays are often frowned upon. If the league views the act as highly offensive, large fines and even suspensions can be issued. In 2006 the NFL, in an effort to cut down on celebrations, amended its rules to include an automatic 15 yard penalty against any player who leaves his feet or uses a prop, like a towel, or more specifically the football.[2] The penalty is called as "excessive celebration", and the yardage is charged against the offending player's team when that team kicks off to the opposing team.
Simply spiking the ball is not considered "excessive celebration". Jumping onto the outer wall to accept contact from fans, such as the Lambeau Leap, is also not considered such, as it is off the field of play. (emphasis added) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchdown_celebration
The photo is a prop.
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