Oh No, The Helicopter

[marshabar1]

The tail of the helicopter is still in Bin Laden's yard. It contains valuable secret technology that cannot fall into enemy hands. I wonder how much we'll have to pay our friends to get it back?

abcnews.go.com/Blotter/top-secret-stealth-helicopter-program-revealed-osama-bin/story?id=13530693

www.myfoxdfw.com/dpps/news/helicopter-could-fall-into-enemy-hands-dpgonc-20110504-kh_13059528

[ed1066]

They should have left 500 pounds of C4 for the Pakistani's to "discover"...

[marshabar1]

Yeah, well they'd better send in one of Obama's toy drones quick.

[handyman2]

Funny I read this morning where the seals blew it up. In any case the only value would be the rotor blades that they can make swords out of. No big secrets about how the tail of a helicopter works.

[handyman2]

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[marshabar1]

The pictures show a large section of the damaged helicopter lying near the compound in Abbottabad.

It appears to have an unusual tail assembly, possibly hinting at a type of previously-unknown stealth capability.

www.myfoxdfw.com/dpps/news/helicopter-could-fall-into-enemy-hands-dpgonc-20110504-kh_13059528#ixzz1LRRG4sW1


Before an elite team of U.S. Navy SEALs executed a daring raid that took down Osama bin Laden, the commandos were able to silently sneak up on their elusive target thanks to what aviation analysts said were top secret, never-before-seen stealth-modified helicopters.

abcnews.go.com/Blotter/top-secret-stealth-helicopter-program-revealed-osama-bin/story?id=13530693

[Value Buy]

Message5, that does not look like a helicoptor that would be carrying Navy Seals to an engagement.
Looks more like a one man operated craft,and if it was "blown up" they did a really bad job of it.
ANOTHER QUESTION THAT WILL NEVER BE ANSWERED....

[ed1066]

May 4, 2011 22:54:17 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Message5, that does not look like a helicoptor that would be carrying Navy Seals to an engagement.
Looks more like a one man operated craft,and if it was "blown up" they did a really bad job of it.
ANOTHER QUESTION THAT WILL NEVER BE ANSWERED....

That's the tail rotor section of what looks like a Blackhawk helicopter. It may have some modifications, but it's not anything particularly unusual. Unless you've seen Blackhawks up close, most people don't realize how big they are. They are big...

[Value Buy]

Thanks for the clarification.

[ugonow]

Message5, that does not look like a helicoptor that would be carrying Navy Seals to an engagement.
Looks more like a one man operated craft,and if it was "blown up" they did a really bad job of it.
ANOTHER QUESTION THAT WILL NEVER BE ANSWERED....

I just saw on one site pictures of the raid and the dead bodies with squirt guns underneath them. They said the picture was bought from Pakistanis there..... I wonder if they are having a good laugh at our media......

[txbo]

China will be buy the parts so they can build a stealth helicopter.

[fairlycrazy23]

May 4, 2011 20:38:39 GMT -5 @ed1066 said:

They should have left 500 pounds of C4 for the Pakistani's to "discover"...

Well, yes, they could have done that, but they could have just blew it up.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Relax. Clinton sold this technology to the ChiComs years ago.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

May 4, 2011 20:38:39 GMT -5 @ed1066 said:

They should have left 500 pounds of C4 for the Pakistani's to "discover"...

Amen to that.

[Shirina]

It appears to have an unusual tail assembly, possibly hinting at a type of previously-unknown stealth capability.

Reporters are often abysmally ignorant of military technology. Some examples include:

The morning of 9/11, a reporter for CNN said that America had several battleships on station in New York Harbor. The USN decommissioned all of its battleships after Desert Storm.

An article was released a few years back about North Korea's new "stealth subs," referring to the well-established (and hardly new) Kilo class diesel boats. The amazing new piece of super-tech that made these submarines so cutting edge was ... a snorkel.

During Iraqi Freedom, reporters routinely used F-14, F-15, and F-16 interchangeably as if all three were the same aircraft. And their repeated reference to the F-117 stealth fighter set my teeth on edge.

Yet, that does not look like the tail configuration of any Blackhawk I'm familiar with. The "wings" are too angled and entirely too close to the tail rotor, and the Blackhawk does not have the large rotor hub. The Blackhawk also only has four tail rotor blades while the helo in the picture clearly has five.

Whatever it was, it was very unlikely it was a Blackhawk.

[marshabar1]

Mission helo was secret stealth Black Hawk

By Sean D. Naylor - Staff writer
Posted : Wednesday May 4, 2011 18:07:39 EDT

The helicopters that flew the Navy SEALs on the mission to kill Osama bin Laden were a radar-evading variant of the special operations MH-60 Black Hawk, according to a retired special operations aviator.

The helicopter’s low-observable technology is similar to that of the F-117 Stealth Fighter the retired special operations aviator said. “It really didn’t look like a traditional Black Hawk,” he said. It had “hard edges, sort of like an … F-117, you know how they have those distinctive edges and angles — that’s what they had on this one.”

In addition, “in order to keep the radar cross-section down, you have to do something to treat the windshield,” he said. If a special coating was applied to the windshield it is “very plausible” that would make the helicopter more difficult to fly for pilots wearing night-vision goggles, he said. The helicopters carrying the SEALs arrived over the bin Laden compound at about 1 a.m. Monday local time. One crash-landed in the courtyard and was so badly damaged it was unable to take off again.

That crash landing might have been caused by a phenomenon known as “settling with power,” which occurs when a helicopter descends too quickly because its rotors cannot get the lift required from the turbulent air of their own downwash. “It’s hard to settle with power in a Black Hawk, but then again, if they were using one of these [low-observable helicopters], working at max gross weight, it’s certainly plausible that they could have because they would have been flying so heavy,” the retired special operations aviator said, noting that low-observable modifications added “several hundred pounds” to the weight of the MH-60, which already weighs about 500 to 1000 pounds more than a regular UH-60 Black Hawk.

www.armytimes.com/news/2011/05/army-mission-helocopter-was-secret-stealth-black-hawk-050411/

[txbo]

May 5, 2011 10:20:36 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Relax. Clinton sold this technology to the ChiComs years ago.

This is new technology and would have been sold by Bush to China. In return, he could borrow money from them so he could fight two wars and lower taxes at the same time.

[ed1066]

May 5, 2011 12:01:39 GMT -5 @marshabar1 said:

Mission helo was secret stealth Black Hawk

By Sean D. Naylor - Staff writer
Posted : Wednesday May 4, 2011 18:07:39 EDT

The helicopters that flew the Navy SEALs on the mission to kill Osama bin Laden were a radar-evading variant of the special operations MH-60 Black Hawk, according to a retired special operations aviator.

The helicopter’s low-observable technology is similar to that of the F-117 Stealth Fighter the retired special operations aviator said. “It really didn’t look like a traditional Black Hawk,” he said. It had “hard edges, sort of like an … F-117, you know how they have those distinctive edges and angles — that’s what they had on this one.”

In addition, “in order to keep the radar cross-section down, you have to do something to treat the windshield,” he said. If a special coating was applied to the windshield it is “very plausible” that would make the helicopter more difficult to fly for pilots wearing night-vision goggles, he said. The helicopters carrying the SEALs arrived over the bin Laden compound at about 1 a.m. Monday local time. One crash-landed in the courtyard and was so badly damaged it was unable to take off again.

That crash landing might have been caused by a phenomenon known as “settling with power,” which occurs when a helicopter descends too quickly because its rotors cannot get the lift required from the turbulent air of their own downwash. “It’s hard to settle with power in a Black Hawk, but then again, if they were using one of these [low-observable helicopters], working at max gross weight, it’s certainly plausible that they could have because they would have been flying so heavy,” the retired special operations aviator said, noting that low-observable modifications added “several hundred pounds” to the weight of the MH-60, which already weighs about 500 to 1000 pounds more than a regular UH-60 Black Hawk.

www.armytimes.com/news/2011/05/army-mission-helocopter-was-secret-stealth-black-hawk-050411/

Thanks, Marsha. As I indicated earlier, this was a modified Blackhawk. I've seen enough of them to know...and the Blackhawk platform is very customizable. There are all kinds of special-purpose versions for transport, combat, naval and urban applications...

[jarhead1976]

Thought they where CH 60's? Either way we will never get it back. Now would be a good time to drop that 1000lb bomb and clean the rest of the mess up. Oh and I scored a 61 on Pigs "Saint or Nazi" quiz. Go figure. Its my compassionate side showing again. ^^^^^^^^^

[marshabar1]

May 5, 2011 13:40:37 GMT -5 @jarhead1976 said:

Thought they where CH 60's? Either way we will never get it back. Now would be a good time to drop that 1000lb bomb and clean the rest of the mess up. Oh and I scored a 61 on Pigs "Saint or Nazi" quiz. Go figure. Its my compassionate side showing again. ^^^^^^^^^

The sooner the better.