Welfare Money Tracked To Strip Clubs

[ty]

Welfare Money Tracked To Strip Clubs

Read more: www.abc15.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/Investigation-finds-tax-dollars-withdrawn-at-bars%2C-liquor-stores%2C-strip-clubs%2C-casinos-

"Your tax dollars are being withdrawn from a federal welfare program at Arizona ATM's in casinos, tattoo parlors, liquor stores and even strip clubs.

During the last four months, the ABC15 Investigators have performed an audit of cash withdrawals funded from the program.

Thousands of files were reviewed, and our investigation is now shining the light of discovery on a small loophole that has allowed these questionable withdrawals.

ABC15 Investigator Joe Ducey is going inside the welfare program to show you what's really happening with your tax dollars and what state regulators now say they will do as a result of this investigation.

It's a whistle-blower story every tax payer should know about. We're working to put some final touches on the story right now. You can watch it Sunday night on ABC15 News at 10pm.

The ABC15 Investigators are Arizona’s most recognized team for quality watchdog reporting. Recently they exposed questionable kidnapping statistics at the Phoenix Police department and horrible conditions at a Valley crematorium. See past stories here . "

[ed1066]

You didn't think they were spending all of it on booze and cigarettes, did you? Come on, there's got to be some booty in the budget, too...

[❤ mollymouser ❤]

There have been lots of news stories like this, lately ~ usually in conjunction with some sort of proposal to minimize where EBT cash withdrawals can take place. I even saw one news story where they tracked how much cash was withdrawn in other states, including some vacation-y destinations.

[Value Buy]

Were the ATM'S in the strip clubs, distributing one dollar bills?

[vonnie6200]

The boyfriends must be stealing the EBT cards

[workpublic]

there's got to be some booty in the budget, too... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

don't forget weed and blow

[Mad Dawg Wiccan]

This is old news here in CA. The cards were supposed to stop people from selling their paper food stamps, but where there's a will there's a way. Places like unscrupulous liquor stores are ringing up sales on legal items without actually selling them, and then giving the card holder half the amount of the bogus sale in cash. As for the strip clubs and casinos, the ATMs there need to be locked out like they are here.

[ty]

May 2, 2011 18:23:09 GMT -5 @ed1066 said:

You didn't think they were spending all of it on booze and cigarettes, did you? Come on, there's got to be some booty in the budget, too...

[ty]

May 2, 2011 19:39:56 GMT -5 Mad Dawg Wiccan said:

This is old news here in CA. The cards were supposed to stop people from selling their paper food stamps, but where there's a will there's a way. Places like unscrupulous liquor stores are ringing up sales on legal items without actually selling them, and then giving the card holder half the amount of the bogus sale in cash. As for the strip clubs and casinos, the ATMs there need to be locked out like they are here.

[billisonboard]

Welfare Funds Spent at Strip Clubs and Sex Shops
January 29, 2011
Lawmakers in Washington state are proposing additional restrictions on where welfare recipients can spend their taxpayer-funded money after a recent investigation discovered benefits being used at strip clubs, ... www.wgnsradio.com/welfare-funds-spent-at-strip-clubs-and-sex-shops/24394/

Welfare Money Spent At Strip ClubsJul 1, 2010 ... Welfare Money Spent At Strip Clubs. 0 Comments. Welfare recipients get $12000 from strip club ATMs. California welfare recipients have been ...
www.insuranceovertexas.com/.../welfare_money_spent_at_strip_clubs - Cached

Welfare Money Spent On Luxury Items - News Story - WSB AtlantaApr 28, 2011 ... TANF recipients swiped their cards at strip clubs across Atlanta, ... on the verge of changing the policy governing federal welfare money. ...
www.wsbtv.com/news/27709217/detail.html - Cached

"Your tax dollars are being withdrawn from a federal welfare program at Arizona ATM's in casinos, tattoo parlors, liquor stores and even strip clubs.

[Mad Dawg Wiccan]

May 2, 2011 20:09:06 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Welfare Funds Spent at Strip Clubs and Sex Shops
January 29, 2011
Lawmakers in Washington state are proposing additional restrictions on where welfare recipients can spend their taxpayer-funded money after a recent investigation discovered benefits being used at strip clubs, ... www.wgnsradio.com/welfare-funds-spent-at-strip-clubs-and-sex-shops/24394/

Welfare Money Spent At Strip ClubsJul 1, 2010 ... Welfare Money Spent At Strip Clubs. 0 Comments. Welfare recipients get $12000 from strip club ATMs. California welfare recipients have been ...
www.insuranceovertexas.com/.../welfare_money_spent_at_strip_clubs - Cached

Welfare Money Spent On Luxury Items - News Story - WSB AtlantaApr 28, 2011 ... TANF recipients swiped their cards at strip clubs across Atlanta, ... on the verge of changing the policy governing federal welfare money. ...
www.wsbtv.com/news/27709217/detail.html - Cached

"Your tax dollars are being withdrawn from a federal welfare program at Arizona ATM's in casinos, tattoo parlors, liquor stores and even strip clubs.

Yeppers. Old news.

[❤ mollymouser ❤]

There was also a whole series of stories about using SNAP benefits (formerly known as Food Stamps) at fast food restaurants, too.

[billisonboard]

May 2, 2011 20:14:48 GMT -5 Mad Dawg Wiccan said:

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Yeppers. Old news.

I was just wondering why the reports of the investigations in four different states highlight strip clubs? I guess it is something that particularly offends the sensibilities of prudish America.

[ty]

May 2, 2011 20:27:09 GMT -5 @toughtimes said:

I could actually see that more. Some people have no stoves. I went without for over a year due to a slumlord landlord who thankfully sold to a more reputable man.

I know a fellow that has no stove. His died years back and the lanlord isn't doing anything for him. So he now has a hotplate, a microwave and a toaster oven to do all his cooking with.

[billisonboard]

May 2, 2011 20:36:00 GMT -5 @ty said:

May 2, 2011 20:27:09 GMT -5 @toughtimes said:

I could actually see that more. Some people have no stoves. I went without for over a year due to a slumlord landlord who thankfully sold to a more reputable man.

I know a fellow that has no stove. His died years back and the lanlord isn't doing anything for him. So he now has a hotplate, a microwave and a toaster oven to do all his cooking with.

Wow! A man with three different ways to heat food. He must be some sort of gourmet.

[Mad Dawg Wiccan]

May 2, 2011 20:36:00 GMT -5 @ty said:

May 2, 2011 20:27:09 GMT -5 @toughtimes said:

I could actually see that more. Some people have no stoves. I went without for over a year due to a slumlord landlord who thankfully sold to a more reputable man.

I know a fellow that has no stove. His died years back and the lanlord isn't doing anything for him. So he now has a hotplate, a microwave and a toaster oven to do all his cooking with.

He died a few years back but is still being paid benefits? Whoever is collecting them on his behalf should be tossed into prison, along with you and any others that knew of the fraud.

[Mad Dawg Wiccan]

May 2, 2011 20:31:49 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

May 2, 2011 20:14:48 GMT -5 Mad Dawg Wiccan said:

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Yeppers. Old news.

I was just wondering why the reports of the investigations in four different states highlight strip clubs? I guess it is something that particularly offends the sensibilities of prudish America.

I don't know exactly how ATMs work (as to the technical links). If states don't want welfare money being spent at titty bars, then it is up to them to institute some ATM filters. I for one don't give an airborne rodent's posterior where it is spent.

[ty]

May 2, 2011 20:49:56 GMT -5 Mad Dawg Wiccan said:

May 2, 2011 20:36:00 GMT -5 @ty said:

I know a fellow that has no stove. His died years back and the lanlord isn't doing anything for him. So he now has a hotplate, a microwave and a toaster oven to do all his cooking with.

He died a few years back but is still being paid benefits? Whoever is collecting them on his behalf should be tossed into prison, along with you and any others that knew of the fraud.

His stove died, not the man, he had a phone and could have reported it. What a moron you are. Making nothing into something that is pretty much nothing.


And life goes on! ;D

[Mad Dawg Wiccan]

May 2, 2011 20:53:02 GMT -5 @toughtimes said:

His stove died. He is alive and eating. I doubt the stove is on benefits.

In CA, don't bet on it.

[Mad Dawg Wiccan]

May 2, 2011 20:56:38 GMT -5 @ty said:

May 2, 2011 20:49:56 GMT -5 Mad Dawg Wiccan said:

He died a few years back but is still being paid benefits? Whoever is collecting them on his behalf should be tossed into prison, along with you and any others that knew of the fraud.

His stove died, not the man, he had a phone and could have reported it. What a moron you are. Making nothing into something that is pretty much nothing.


And life goes on! ;D

I misread "his" as "he", so shoot me.

I have no sympathy if he had the ability to report it and didn't. God and Goddess help those who help themselves.

[Deleted]

Welfare Money Tracked To Strip Clubs

No I don't believe it. Some conservative must have broken into their computer systems & faked the data. I know that's true because I have been told COUNTLESS times on these boards (by liberals) that there is none or very little graft in the welfare system. Those people need that money so they can feed little Timmy (with the terminal condition that money could cure, if they could afford it).
My world is just all Topsy Turvy now.

[Mad Dawg Wiccan]

May 2, 2011 21:02:39 GMT -5 @oldtex said:

Welfare Money Tracked To Strip Clubs

No I don't believe it. Some conservative must have broken into their computer systems & faked the data. I know that's true because I have been told COUNTLESS times on these boards (by liberals) that there is none or very little graft in the welfare system. Those people need that money so they can feed little Timmy (with the terminally condition that money could cure, if they could afford it).
My world is just all Topsy Turvy now.

I owe you a karma!

[ty]

May 2, 2011 21:02:39 GMT -5 @oldtex said:

Welfare Money Tracked To Strip Clubs

No I don't believe it. Some conservative must have broken into their computer systems & faked the data. I know that's true because I have been told COUNTLESS times on these boards (by liberals) that there is none or very little graft in the welfare system. Those people need that money so they can feed little Timmy (with the terminally condition that money could cure, if they could afford it).
My world is just all Topsy Turvy now.

Kasi, a friend of mine use to work at a casino in CA and they got busted for accepting state welfare cards so they can gamble with it. She said every month you will see these groups of welfare people coming in to gamble. She was told to give them soda, water and snacks to keep them coming back and they did until they got busted. She quit her job there. Too much criminal activity going on. I feel that if the casinos are doing this, then maybe it's time to start shutting them down, but all they get is a fine and a slap on the wrist it seems.
If I were selling prescriptions drugs on the streets, I would be going to prison for selling them and serving time. This is what needs to be happening to these corrupt casinos that made it so welfare recipients can waste their money away on them.

[Mad Dawg Wiccan]

<<I feel that if the casinos are doing this, then maybe it's time to start shutting them down, but all they get is a fine and a slap on the wrist it seems.>>


All the casinos in CA at least are on American Indian property, which is classified as Sovereign Nation property. It does not fall under Federal or State laws, including labor laws (which means they don't have to pay minimum wage or overtime). Like it or not, they can do as they wish unless the State which issued the card wishes to block certain transactions. Which they should, as CA did several months ago.

ETA: ATM machines are, to use the politically incorrect term, "dumb". They are just a machine and have no idea where they are, either in a sleazy strip club or an organic grocery store. Most are contracted out to outside vendors, and the owners of the property have utterly no control over who uses them.

[ty]

May 2, 2011 21:37:56 GMT -5 @toughtimes said:

I think too, that given WHERE the abuse is occurring i.e. Casinos and strip clubs which are notoriously "mobbed up" there is more here than meets the eye. This may be a sophisticated scheme rather than spending by wastrels and ner' do wells.

[Deleted]

I drove welfare people in my cab all the time. Free groceries, medical and day care during the day, drugs, alcohol, casinos, and yes, strip joints at night. These aren't your little old ladies, your sick people, your homeless, or even your illegals with 3 babies under 5. They are flat out criminals. They lie, cheat, sell drugs, steal, run hookers, rob cab drivers and roll drunk college kids, burglarize homes, shoot people in the streets, stab people at bus stops, steal cars-- and YES-- we give them foodstamps, medical, cash, free daycare, sometimes even housing.Hookers, pimps, crackheads, tweakers, total bottom feeding scum- courtesy of the benevolent, merciful USA welfare system!

[Shirina]

Can't they just look to see who is spending money at casinos, et. al. and simply cancel their assistance? That seems like a pretty easy solution. Surely the cards are linked to a specific person. If they're caught spending government money on hookers and booze, cut them off. Hell, I would even send them a bill for the money they spent.

[ty]

May 3, 2011 1:20:58 GMT -5 Shirina said:

Can't they just look to see who is spending money at casinos, et. al. and simply cancel their assistance? That seems like a pretty easy solution. Surely the cards are linked to a specific person. If they're caught spending government money on hookers and booze, cut them off. Hell, I would even send them a bill for the money they spent.