US Navy History Buffs

[reformeddaytrader]

For Our Resident Beer Connoisseurs





Vietnamese Brews

[warsaw (banned)]

:)Great story..."Croix de Guerre"...Sorry, I'm a terrible and lazy typist.

[warsaw (banned)]

That "33" is a copy of a French beer...

[reformeddaytrader]

I liked it and better than our home brew we made at our base.. or Coors that was not properly refrigerated ..that would lead to a bad case of the GI Blues...

[Value Buy]

Dec 27, 2010 18:25:00 GMT -5 @reformeddaytrader said:

I liked it and better than our home brew we made at our base.. or Coors that was not properly refrigerated ..that would lead to a bad case of the GI Blues...

"33" was pretty good, but Budweiser was only $3.00 a case at the px, and I think we had a 3 case limit on beer.
Maybe the allotment only applied to cigarettes and hard liquor, and not the beer. I cannot remember for sure.

[warsaw (banned)]

Well TYVM. Go Sawx!

[reformeddaytrader]

Weird how this thread went from discussing two historical and legendary Navy Ships that span our Naval History from ( 1794 to 2000) to a discussion about beer.....must be that Boston Irish influence??

Here's an old beer story Gen.PX Kelly asked me what he could get for us for a barbecue party.. "ice cream? soda?? just name it" he said to me...so I said "OK General. Can you get us a few cases of Coors beer.?" Two days later a he-lo dropped off two cases of Coors for us so we immediately downed them in about two hours, but noticed the beer was warm...and didn't taste too good....the next day everyone was suffering the GI Blues because we didn't know that Coors will go bad if it is not refrigerated...and that was the last Coors most of us ever downed again and went with Old Bulldog Malt Liquor instead that was issued to us for our beer partying ..

[Value Buy]

Back in the day, I remember buddies making emergency runs to west of the Mississppi, stockpiling the car (trunk and backseat) and driving back with Coors. Did not use pick-ups for fear the state police might pull you over and check under the tarp.
We always iced it down, immediately,after it's arrival.
Most said, it did not taste quite as good, but it was the idea we were drinking Coors beer, so it was okay.

[reformeddaytrader]

I think the Coors we got was iced down but in the heat and humidity and a 4 hr flight the ice melted and was @ room temperature....so I guess if Coors goes below a certain temperature for @ an hour or so it will spoil ...it had a different taste. But I told everyone quit complaining and that is was probably OK.. But you are right VB it had a flat taste to me..but really opened your bowels.. and after living on "C" rats that was probably not a bad thing..

[floridayankee]

Dec 28, 2010 12:43:10 GMT -5 @reformeddaytrader said:

I guess if Coors goes below a certain temperature for @ an hour or so it will spoil ...

I don't see how that's possible...it's pretty much tanned water. In fact, water has a higher alcohol content and tastes better.

[reformeddaytrader]

Ok maybe spoil was not the right term but taste flat or stale?? Because it was warm.. I was going to say tasted like Shit but we could not use that term because that was not allowed.. Cooks took offense to that description of their food preparations and beverages..

[floridayankee]

Dec 28, 2010 13:12:22 GMT -5 @reformeddaytrader said:

Ok maybe spoil was not the right term but taste flat or stale?? Because it was warm.. I was going to say tasted like Shit but we could not use that term because that was not allowed.. Cooks took offense to that description of their food preparations and beverages..

Speaking of tasting like shit....a friend used to drink that Stroh's.....warm.

I would have rather ate yellow snow.

[reformeddaytrader]

Did you ever try Billy Beer? That tasted like shit and was weak and watery and also smelt funny.....must have been cheap Georgia peanut oil they might have used in the brewing..??


Dam I knew I should have started a beer connoisseurs thread.

..but I don't always drink beer but when I do get that old desire to indulge I drink Coco Cola Zero instead so stay thirsty my friends...

[Value Buy]

Dec 28, 2010 13:07:42 GMT -5 floridayankee said:

Dec 28, 2010 12:43:10 GMT -5 @reformeddaytrader said:

I guess if Coors goes below a certain temperature for @ an hour or so it will spoil ...

I don't see how that's possible...it's pretty much tanned water. In fact, water has a higher alcohol content and tastes better.

Coors beer used to have to be refrigerated. It was fresh unpastuerized beer, so must be kept cold at all times. The shelf life was very limited, even with refrigeration.
When it was first allowed east of the big Muddy, it had to be delivered in refrigerated trailers, and stored in coolers in our local liquor stores for resale.

[reformeddaytrader]

I grew up in Boston and we never heard of Coors until I came to CA but I never knew it had to be refrigerated until after that dumb incident in msg#67...then I was told by some beer connoisseur I screwed up again but can you ice down warm Coors and then would it have been OK?

Or do you have to toss it after it gets warm?? just asking..

[alex2]

In reading your posts you may be interested in a book by CW Kilpatrick The Naval Night Battles in the Solomons. Written in the style of a Navy Log.
It describes 14 battles that were fought at night in the Solomons. The largest, The Battle of Guadalcanal or officially called The Battle of the Solomons. The Japanese Hiei and Kirishima and the US Washington and South Dakota.

[reformeddaytrader]

OK thanx Alex 2 did you watch the HBO series "The Pacific"...it was also pretty good & I also got the book

I had to read Guadalcanal Starvation Island by Eric Hammel in staff NCO school which is pretty good as well if you are interested......Eric Hammel has been give free reign by the Marines to do his thing about Naval History...

Thanx for bringing us back to the OP we have some ex sailors who just want to talk all the time about beer....I guess it is a Navy thing along with ringing bells aboard ship to announce the time of day weird tradition in the Fleet..??

[warsaw (banned)]

A beer thread would be good...Olympia used to be like that, I think- you used to have to go west to get it, Jackson Hole in my case.
Also discovered Green Label Jack Daniels. My gang picked up the only girls in town, an all girl band. We all built a giant snow girl in the town square, but when they invited us to their appartment, 4 out of seven of us pled disability. Did they think that happened every day?
I must defend a fav, Strohs. It was the winner of a huge survey of experts as the best US beer, with its new clone, Old Milwaukee, coming in second. Try it again...

[reformeddaytrader]

I worked with a sailor who brewed his own beer and even had bottles with his name on the label, But his home brew was god awful so every time he gave us one we would pour it in a plant in his house....so anyhow a few weeks later he said he was really glad we all liked his beer but really sad because all of his plants died..

[floridayankee]

Dec 28, 2010 13:33:14 GMT -5 @reformeddaytrader said:

Did you ever try Billy Beer? That tasted like shit and was weak and watery and also smelt funny.....must have been cheap Georgia peanut oil they might have used in the brewing..??

Could have been, I wouldn't know. That was the early-mid 70 so I wasn't even in my teens when that swill came out so I never had the "pleasure". I did have a can in my collection as a kid, though.
One I'd like to get a hold of, but likely never will is only released every two years and retails between $150-$600/bottle.

[warsaw (banned)]

The two books I've read lately are "The Lost Ships of Guadalcanal"**** and "Return to Midway***, by Ballard, the Titanic guy. He found all the wrecks and his coauthor writes about the battles, and he has paintings of the battles and the underwater wrecks...excellent.l

[floridayankee]

Dec 28, 2010 14:50:02 GMT -5 @reformeddaytrader said:

OK thanx Alex 2 did you watch the HBO series "The Pacific"...it was also pretty good & I also got the book

DS just got me The Pacific for Christmas....and the Band of Brothers. Now, I just have to run the speaker wire and hook up the rear speakers for surround sound, fire up a big bowl of popcorn, grab a couple BEERS and we'll be ready to go.

[reformeddaytrader]

You will really enjoy Band of Brothers, the Pacific was ok but for some reason I thought that Band of Brothers was much better...acting is awesome and scenery is just breath taking especially in the winter in Europe..


I like the last DVD when Capt Winters who is now @87 years old says "my grand daughter asked me last night , Grand Pa were you a hero in the war" and Winters says " No darling I just served with a lot of guys who were though"......

Make sure if you are drinking Coors that it is ice cold..or else you will be making a lot of trips to the restroom ..

[reformeddaytrader]

Warsaw....FYI I was a special subjects instructor for a few years and my specialty was the Korean War ..but the problem was we had only a few books to use for references material, and outside reading. But we had guys who were there in Korea, and come to class to give their first hand accounts of what went on. We had one guy who was captured in Korea, but escaped from a train. And he had also been captured on Wake Island ...so twice he was captured in two wars and escaped from the Chinese in Korea, but hauled coal in northern Japan the first time.

[warsaw (banned)]

Sounds horrible. My uncle (Brit) died on the River Kwai, a friend was captured at Hong Kong- My father, a MD from Buffalo, joined the British Army to fight the Nazis, of course was sent to India, was surrounded at Imphal- another forgotten war... I'm very sorry I was never in the service.

[Value Buy]

Back to the thread topic.
On this day in history, the USS Constitution won a battle with the British ship HMS Java, off, of all places, Brazil

[reformeddaytrader]

Dec 23, 2010 15:22:03 GMT -5 ❤ mollymouser ❤ said:

Florida Yankee ... I like your disclaimer

Thanx VB and if anyone is wondering I was not aboard the USS Constitution for that naval battle but was assigned to her Ship's detachment formal guard mount much later...

If anyone has been aboard her the fist thing you notice is how small everything was in 1794 when she was built....guys were only @ 5 ft tall and weighed @ 120 lbs during her early days... I am 6' 2" and must have knocked my hat off @234 times walking through the ports..

[reformeddaytrader]

[reformeddaytrader]

[traelin0]

Damn it, I've never seen the Constitution, and I remember dem and I having a lengthy conversation about Maine during the War of 1812...do you think they'd mind moving it to, oh I don't know, Mobile? ;D