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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 11:11:21 GMT -5
Arch, really? Like what? Care to elaborate?  Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Gitmo, Gay Marriage to name a few. |
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Post by Angel! on Apr 27, 2011 11:23:08 GMT -5
This thread made me laugh. All we ever heard is "why won't he release it, what is he hiding?" Now he releases it & all we hear is "why did he wait so long, why not settle this issue earlier?".
I've said it before - some people will never be happy with what he does & some people think he can do no wrong. I think it comes down with the ability to look at something with no bias & honestly make a judgement & I'm beginning to realize a good majority of the population is completely incapable of doing so. Everyone has become so divided with party lines that they are unable to admit or even see when the other side has a good idea. And we wonder why the country is going down the toilet - it isn't just the democrats or republicans dragging us down - it is both.
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Apr 27, 2011 11:23:44 GMT -5
...promised to leave, promosed to leave, implied to avoid, promised to close, implied to legalize... in that order... ...but he didn't...  |
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Apr 27, 2011 11:24:19 GMT -5
<<< I've said it before - some people will never be happy with what he does & some people think he can do no wrong. I think it comes down with the ability to look at something with no bias & honestly make a judgement & I'm beginning to realize a good majority of the population is completely incapable of doing so. >>> ...welcome to the jungle... we've got fun and games...  |
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Apr 27, 2011 11:28:08 GMT -5
...some will vote for him again... time will tell how many...  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 11:53:16 GMT -5
So-- what happened here? Did he go through the legal motions to change his name back to Obama, which he never had done?? If he was born in Hawaii, that is the only thing that makes sense about the college records, etc. What was the lie? Was he never adopted, and just lived as , or WAS he adopted and never switched back until now? Was his BC so buried under crap from all this it took this long to be able to fix it? My son's name on his BC changed when my husband adopted him. So, the lie was either the adoption, or that he took his old name without going through the motions... So-- once adopted, and an Indonesian citizen, does that change anything.. except the fact he never switched back legally?? One way or the other it seems there are lies out there. Who knows, maybe the lies were his mother's, not his, and he just kept them going by using a name not legally his to use. That could explain the strangeness around his multiple SS#, too. I'm glad the BC is out there now, so people can get busy verifying it. Obama has given us good cause to question him.
I wonder why I just heard on the radio that Obama's people are on the way to Hawaii to get the paperwork done to get the long form if this is it and he already has it?
Yes, Obama is a punk kid, and I think it is hilarious Trump was able to force this issue.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 11:56:32 GMT -5
Sure the left has issues with Obama. They expected instant gay everything, no more war, amnesty, single payer healthcare.... yeah, they are angry that even as radical as he is he does not have the power to step over the people unless he just takes it, and all that does is increase the numbers that flip from center to right..(think Obamacare and EPA cap and trade..) he can't win at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 11:57:56 GMT -5
Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Gitmo, Gay Marriage to name a few. The LEFT has problems with where he stands on the above issues? Yes. |
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Post by rockon on Apr 27, 2011 11:58:49 GMT -5
Not sure what happens now to their claim that Hawaii doesn't have long form birth certificates. Was that just a lie?
Three years later he now says the country has more important things to work on.....?
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Apr 27, 2011 11:59:57 GMT -5
<<< he can't win at this point. >> ...let's hope not... |
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Post by ed1066 on Apr 27, 2011 12:01:15 GMT -5
Now that Trump has humiliated the president in front of the entire nation, he is now asking for Obama to release his school records to explain how he progressed from Occidental to Columbia to Harvard while supposedly being a poor performing student...this should be interesting as well. If Obama has to deal with this one, he might actually need to cancel his next vacation...
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Apr 27, 2011 12:03:31 GMT -5
Now that Trump has humiliated the president in front of the entire nation, he is now asking for Obama to release his school records to explain how he progressed from Occidental to Columbia to Harvard while supposedly being a poor performing student...this should be interesting as well. If Obama has to deal with this one, he might actually need to cancel his next vacation... ...serves him right and we (taxpayers) can use the cost savings...  |
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Apr 27, 2011 12:11:40 GMT -5
...yes... namedropping is a well-publicized activity... |
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Apr 27, 2011 12:12:36 GMT -5
...I once met a man named Fred...
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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on Apr 27, 2011 12:21:20 GMT -5
And Trump graduated from the "Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_TrumpWell at least Trump has lots of green, as in envy    Could you Conservatives do us a favor? Every time you have a declaration that dictates to liberals what they think and believe, could you give us a warning sign like the one above so we don't have to waste our time reading your clueless nonsense? Thanks in advance. And why yes, liberals want "instant gay everything." Who wouldn't want gay quasars, hazelnuts, Esperanto documents, Xenon, mathematical equations, albino zebras, etc.? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 12:24:08 GMT -5
you think Trump is just jealous because Obama went to Harvard?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 12:28:12 GMT -5
Mkitty.... you got caught in the cross fire.
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Post by ed1066 on Apr 27, 2011 12:32:28 GMT -5
What's this "us" and "we" business? You got a little liberal mouse in your pocket, or do you feel you speak for a group here? Does anyone else want to be part of your little snark squad?
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Post by Bluerobin on Apr 27, 2011 12:37:05 GMT -5
Trump is an illegal immigrant from german parents who emigrated to Cuba. Let's see him prove his citizenship!
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Post by burnsattornincan on Apr 27, 2011 12:37:40 GMT -5
A twenty five year old African with a 15 year old from Kansas? Bet that went over real well with the folks at home.
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Post by cael on Apr 27, 2011 12:39:28 GMT -5
Mkitty, I wasn't the one who posted the "instant gay everything" comment, but I will tell you: Not all conservatives are anti-gay/anti-abortion, etc. It would be like me saying ALL libs are tree hugging, Prius driving hippies. This is why I agreed with Angel earlier: So many ppl are closed-minded when it comes to politics, it freezes things from moving forward.  ::realizes where she is and runs away screaming into the night:: |
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 27, 2011 12:46:37 GMT -5
A twenty five year old African with a 15 year old from Kansas? Bet that went over real well with the folks at home. I know no facts will prove to you otherwise but Ann Dunham and her parents moved to Hawaii when she was almost 18 (1960) and she met Barack Obama Sr. while attending University of Hawaii at Manoa. |
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Post by burnsattornincan on Apr 27, 2011 12:51:17 GMT -5
her parents moved to Hawaii when she was almost 18 (1960)
Oops, sorry. That fuzzy print (probably superimposed) on the long form looked like 16 to me. So make it a 17 year old from Kansas. I thought I was borderline inappropriate with a twenty year old when I was 26!
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 27, 2011 12:58:52 GMT -5
her parents moved to Hawaii when she was almost 18 (1960)Oops, sorry. That fuzzy print (probably superimposed) on the long form looked like 16 to me. So make it a 17 year old from Kansas. I thought I was borderline inappropriate with a twenty year old when I was 26! Twenty-three year age difference between you and Ann Dunham. Folks did get married younger back then. |
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Post by marshabar1 on Apr 27, 2011 13:01:45 GMT -5
Krickitt said: "So-- what happened here? Did he go through the legal motions to change his name back to Obama, which he never had done?? If he was born in Hawaii, that is the only thing that makes sense about the college records, etc. What was the lie? Was he never adopted, and just lived as , or WAS he adopted and never switched back until now? Was his BC so buried under crap from all this it took this long to be able to fix it? My son's name on his BC changed when my husband adopted him. So, the lie was either the adoption, or that he took his old name without going through the motions... So-- once adopted, and an Indonesian citizen, does that change anything.. except the fact he never switched back legally?? One way or the other it seems there are lies out there. Who knows, maybe the lies were his mother's, not his, and he just kept them going by using a name not legally his to use. That could explain the strangeness around his multiple SS#, too. I'm glad the BC is out there now, so people can get busy verifying it. Obama has given us good cause to question him.
I wonder why I just heard on the radio that Obama's people are on the way to Hawaii to get the paperwork done to get the long form if this is it and he already has it?
Yes, Obama is a punk kid, and I think it is hilarious Trump was able to force this issue. "
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Post by ed1066 on Apr 27, 2011 13:07:36 GMT -5
Not sure what happens now to their claim that Hawaii doesn't have long form birth certificates. Was that just a lie? Three years later he now says the country has more important things to work on.....? Good point! A lot of lefties were saying that the document Obama initially showed was the ONLY type of birth certificate the state of Hawaii issued. Now it turns out there IS a "long form"? Or did the White House just cook one up for the benefit of Mr. Trump and friends? |
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Post by Opti on Apr 27, 2011 13:08:12 GMT -5
Really, I'd be interested in an unoffical P&M poll to get an idea of how divided it is on this forum.....  Outside looking in, it's as though ppl on the left think our president can do no wrong, and ppl on the right think he can't do anything right (no pun intended). IG, are you reading the same P&M board I am? There are some people who seem to think almost everything he does is wrong and some who seem to defend most of the complaints against him. There are others that post less often that aren't really guided by dogma no matter what their political stripe and share their comments, sometimes good, bad or indifferent. I didn't read P&M much on MSN, but even then there were the less dogmatic conservatives who were disappointed in Bush's handling of some things, especially his support of TARP and the growing deficit. Unfortunately those that hew to the extreme viewpoints are the ones who start the majority of the threads and post the most. |
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Post by Opti on Apr 27, 2011 13:12:17 GMT -5
Not sure what happens now to their claim that Hawaii doesn't have long form birth certificates. Was that just a lie? Three years later he now says the country has more important things to work on.....? Good point! A lot of lefties were saying that the document Obama initially showed was the ONLY type of birth certificate the state of Hawaii issued. Now it turns out there IS a "long form"? Or did the White House just cook one up for the benefit of Mr. Trump and friends? I admit I am confused by this. I thought Hawaiian officials said they did not have a long form birth certificate used when Obama was born. It did look like the document shown on MSN or Yahoo wherever I saw it was in a bound book not a standalone doc so I don't know what's up nor do I care. While its been somewhat interesting finding out why birthers made up the stories they did, ultimately I find this bs as useful as hearing about Bristol Palin and news about the baby daddy. Irrelevant. |
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Post by marshabar1 on Apr 27, 2011 13:12:34 GMT -5
Not sure what happens now to their claim that Hawaii doesn't have long form birth certificates. Was that just a lie? Three years later he now says the country has more important things to work on.....? Good point! A lot of lefties were saying that the document Obama initially showed was the ONLY type of birth certificate the state of Hawaii issued. Now it turns out there IS a "long form"? Or did the White House just cook one up for the benefit of Mr. Trump and friends? Dang! CNN PROVED last night that the short form is the ONLY kind the state of Hawaii issues and it's the ONLY kind considered legal. I guess as a exception for an exceptional man they changed the name on an old long form and gave it to him to shut Trump up. |
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Post by Opti on Apr 27, 2011 13:14:19 GMT -5
"Was he never adopted, and just lived as "
Ding, ding, ding we have a winner!
Some supporting info on the above is in some older posts of mine.
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