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Post by reasonfreedom on Apr 26, 2011 10:20:02 GMT -5
His coworkers don't exactly think he is productive-----"His voting record is … it’s horrid — 351 pieces of legislation he sponsored, six came out of committee, and none have ever passed. And if you go back and look, he just regurgitates the same pieces of legislation. “Restore the Second Amendment.” What does that mean, exactly? But that’s his bill, and two years later he submits the bill again. He just keeps reprinting these and throwing them out there. And now he doesn’t even get any cosponsors on many of his bills. [With] many of his amendments, he’s called out of order on the floor for even putting the amendment in, because he doesn’t follow the rules of operation in the House. He’s up there to make a point, not a difference. He wants to be called out of order because then it’s unique and it’s unusual, and he gets press, or at least Roll Call will say “Here he goes again.” But you know, if you do that once a year or once a term, it works. If you do it three or four times a day, it gets old." Oh so if a bill doesn't pass that means it was junk and wrong. Obviously it must mean that since our congress and senate has done such a good job with the bills that they have passed right? I am not sure about you but I don't give up easily, maybe you the type to just try something once and say "oh well I give up".
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Post by privateinvestor on Apr 26, 2011 10:20:32 GMT -5
Ok, a lot of people want to cut the defense. Do you know which parts he wants to cut? I know one, that is decreasing our base occupation in foreign countries and our funding that goes to them. I have no problem since our "defense of the country" has nothing to do with occupation of others.[/quote][/color]
Ron Paul thinks our Army has been in Korea and Germany too long and on this I do agree...he also wants a quick exit out of Iraq and Afghanistan and the savings would be enormous according to him but that is going to be a tough sell for both parties to swallow..IMHO
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Post by reasonfreedom on Apr 26, 2011 10:22:35 GMT -5
Your link is two years old is that what Ron Paul still thinks about Earmarks after the recent floor debates on this issue in the House...try googling something more recent.. However Ron Paul may be right about bringing our troops home ASAP and saving billions over the next ten years... but does he have any support in congress for this proposal?? I don't think so...but things could change in an election year..?? Actually that link shows for 2008 and 2009, but if 2 years of the same thinking is not good enough for you I am sure I can do some more research for you.
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Post by ugonow on Apr 26, 2011 10:25:21 GMT -5
A lot of what he says is very enticing, but unrealistic,imo. Do you really think we could shrink our economy enough to go back to the gold standard,for instance?
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Post by reasonfreedom on Apr 26, 2011 10:28:41 GMT -5
Ok, a lot of people want to cut the defense. Do you know which parts he wants to cut? I know one, that is decreasing our base occupation in foreign countries and our funding that goes to them. I have no problem since our "defense of the country" has nothing to do with occupation of others. [/color] Ron Paul thinks our Army has been in Korea and Germany too long and on this I do agree...he also wants a quick exit out of Iraq and Afghanistan and the savings would be enormous according to him but that is going to be a tough sell for both parties to swallow..IMHO[/quote] So he should just give up, because other people don't think it is right? What if Christopher Columbus did that or MLK? I don't look at a mountain and just say "oh man it is too damn big, I give up", you either keep trying to climb it or find away around it. That is the same mentality I think a lot of our elected officials do, so they just go with the money and lie their arses off to the people to stay elected.
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Post by ugonow on Apr 26, 2011 10:29:25 GMT -5
This message has been deleted. Double post,sorry
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Post by privateinvestor on Apr 26, 2011 10:30:51 GMT -5
Actually that link shows for 2008 and 2009, but if 2 years of the same thinking is not good enough for you I am sure I can do some more research for you.
The house has been on an anti-Earmark campaign lately so you could well see Zero Earmarks and even Obama agrees on this one...so for Ron Paul to get another four or five million for Shrimp Fishing research would be as popular as a loud fart in a Mosque..with all due respects to the Muslims here..
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Post by cme1201 on Apr 26, 2011 10:39:11 GMT -5
Actually that link shows for 2008 and 2009, but if 2 years of the same thinking is not good enough for you I am sure I can do some more research for you.The house has been on an anti-Earmark campaign lately so you could well see Zero Earmarks and even Obama agrees on this one...so for Ron Paul to get another four or five million for Shrimp Fishing research would be as popular as a loud fart in a Mosque..with all due respects to the Muslims here.. Actually, with the oil spill last year in the gulf, prime hunting ground for the bottom feeders, we need to do some real research to see if any of the oil that didn't dissipate, has 1. Harmed the breeding grounds, 2. found it's way into the shrimps that are being pulled out of the gulf, 3. to see if any type of genetic mutations are happening to young shrimp. Shrimping is a large business in the gulf so knowing what is actually happening might, just might be a good thing. And why does Obama show as a misspelled word? Come on 2 years it should be in a dictionary by now.
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Post by privateinvestor on Apr 26, 2011 10:44:53 GMT -5
[ Shrimping is a large business in the gulf so knowing what is actually happening might, just might be a good thing.
And why does Obama show as a misspelled word? Come on 2 years it should be in a dictionary by now.
I hear you but you know what John Boehner said about Earmarks in the 2011 and 2012 Federal Spending Cuts......."we just cannot afford them anymore"..
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Post by reasonfreedom on Apr 26, 2011 11:00:41 GMT -5
A lot of what he says is very enticing, but unrealistic,imo. Do you really think we could shrink our economy enough to go back to the gold standard,for instance? Yeah, The gold standard would be nice, but like you I do have a hard time understanding how we would revert back to that in this consumer type of society. As far as the realistic excuse goes, I could list of multiple unrealistic people, but here are a few Christopher Columbus, MLk, Albert Einstein ... the list goes on and on.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Apr 26, 2011 11:10:16 GMT -5
I am not sure if he will run as a libertarian, he has already tried that and found running as a republican or democrat is the only way to get elected. Too many people think black or white(red or blue in this case) and not gray. If he did run and libertarian/independant though, I think he will get as much vote or more than Ross Perot, because of his monetary knowledge.
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Post by privateinvestor on Apr 26, 2011 11:12:29 GMT -5
I am not sure if he will run as a libertarian, he has already tried that and found running as a republican or democrat is the only way to get elected. Too many people think black or white(red or blue in this case) and not gray. If he did run and libertarian/independant though, I think he will get as much vote or more than Ross Perot, because of his monetary knowledge. I will bet you Ron Paul will indeed run as Libertarian
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Apr 26, 2011 11:27:26 GMT -5
What? A perennial candidate with no chance of winning the nomination, let alone the election is running? Again? Sorry, but "news" would be if he decided NOT to run.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Apr 26, 2011 11:38:25 GMT -5
I am not sure if he will run as a libertarian, he has already tried that and found running as a republican or democrat is the only way to get elected. Too many people think black or white(red or blue in this case) and not gray. If he did run and libertarian/independant though, I think he will get as much vote or more than Ross Perot, because of his monetary knowledge. I will bet you Ron Paul will indeed run as Libertarian Lol, you bet me he wasn't even going to run before.
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Post by privateinvestor on Apr 26, 2011 15:33:49 GMT -5
Ron Paul is supposed to be a guest on Fox in a few and could announce he is running for President
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Post by reasonfreedom on Apr 26, 2011 16:19:35 GMT -5
Ron Paul is supposed to be a guest on Fox in a few and could announce he is running for President That is probably the only media attention he will get from fox for the presidency run, unless he accomplishes some huge feat like online donations again.
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Post by privateinvestor on Apr 26, 2011 16:27:56 GMT -5
That is probably the only media attention he will get from fox for the presidency run, unless he accomplishes some huge feat like online donations again.
He just announced it is official he has started an exploratory committee which is the first step for running for president
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Post by reasonfreedom on Apr 26, 2011 16:30:36 GMT -5
That is probably the only media attention he will get from fox for the presidency run, unless he accomplishes some huge feat like online donations again.He just announced it is official he has started an exploratory committee which is the first step for running for president Cool, expect a huge grassroots money bomb. I will probably join the campaign again this year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2011 22:23:19 GMT -5
Ron Paul - right message, wrong messenger.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Apr 27, 2011 7:59:41 GMT -5
Ron Paul - right message, wrong messenger. Wrong messenger, just because society is materialistic and shallow?
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Post by Value Buy on May 9, 2011 19:36:59 GMT -5
Looks like Ron Paul vs Newt... Obama wins again
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2011 19:39:17 GMT -5
It's not over yet-- not at all. Not even started.
Does anyone know where PI is? I miss him.
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Post by Value Buy on May 9, 2011 19:55:25 GMT -5
It's not over yet-- not at all. Not even started. Does anyone know where PI is? I miss him. I did not think he had a chance of being re-elected, but now I am not so sure. Any photo op with the President since we got Bin Laden, shows men and women getting weak knee'd shaking his hand in public. It reminds me of his campaign. The public loves him again. It will take someone special to beat him, and Ron Paul and Newt is not the answer
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2011 19:59:29 GMT -5
Let's hope someone steps up. I am keeping an eye on Kain. Been listening to him on the radio for years.
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Post by reasonfreedom on May 16, 2011 6:44:55 GMT -5
Looks like Ron Paul is running republican and not libertarian. Looks like I am headed back to helping the grassroots campaign again.
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