Ron Paul May Just Throw His Hat In The Ring Again

[privateinvestor]

He has announced another exploratory committee so stay tuned to this one

xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20110425/US.Paul.2012/

[magichat]

He doesn't stand a chance but I wish him luck.

[privateinvestor]

Ivers says Paul also plans to name an Iowa campaign team.

Paul finished fifth in the 2008 caucuses and has visited Iowa seven times since. He headlined an event in Sioux Center two weeks ago for a social conservative group, and he spoke at a rally for Christian home-school advocates at the Iowa Capitol in Des Moines last month.

Paul is a favorite among libertarians and enjoys strong backing by many tea party supporters.

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This means Ron Paul will receive megabucks again to do his thing travel across the country telling us all the sky is falling, the sky is falling but who knows maybe this time more will listen to Dr No and his doom and gloom scenarios....but to his credit he does from time to time have some dam good ideas i.e lets get out of having so much of our mlitary overseas in places that they really should not be..and bring them home to save more money...we are spending billions in the Afghan which is mostly being wasted or for nothing at all...IMHO

[ugonow]

I bet the RNC is hoping he runs as a republican.......

[privateinvestor]

Apr 26, 2011 8:30:07 GMT -5 ugonow said:

I bet the RNC is hoping he runs as a republican.......

He is being pressured to run as a Libertarian and maybe some of our Libertarian members here can add to this..??

[magichat]

Apr 26, 2011 8:30:07 GMT -5 ugonow said:

I bet the RNC is hoping he runs as a republican.......

I would bet against that, he is a distraction from the usual message.

[privateinvestor]

Ron Paul has a lot of contradictions because what he preaches is not what he has practiced...he has accepted megabucks in Earmarks but preaches they are evil, he preaches about a strong national defense but voted against going into Iraq, and Afghanistan, his economic ideas are right out of the Austrian School of Economics which is going to be a tough sell during our budgetary constraints and political infighting on spending cuts

But his criticism of the Federal Reserve was right on...so let's see what he has to say if he campaigns again...I do like some of his ideas...or think he has some good suggestions but probably none of the Republicans think so..??

[magichat]

Apr 26, 2011 8:43:21 GMT -5 @privateinvestor said:

Ron Paul has a lot of contradictions because what he preaches is not what he has practiced...he has accepted megabucks in Earmarks but preaches they are evil, he preaches about a strong national defense but voted against going into Iraq, and Afghanistan, his economic ideas are right out of the Austrian School of Economics which is going to be a tough sell during our budgetary constraints and political infighting on spending cuts

But his criticism of the Federal Reserve was right on...so let's see what he has to say if he campaigns again...I do like some of his ideas...or think he has some good suggestions but probably none of the Republicans think so..??

As has been pointed out before being against earmarks and accepting them while looking controversial is not nesscearily the case. The money is going to be handed out whether one is against them or not, you might as well get your fair share.

Iraq had little to do with having a strong national defense. Afghanistan was plenty questionable as well. Maybe if Reagan had not armed Bin Laden in the 80s with the usual foreign policy that the enemy of my enemy is my friend we wouldn't be in this predicament.

[ugonow]

I would bet against that, he is a distraction from the usual message.

You don't see him taking some republican votes away if he runs as something else? If he runs as republican and gets beat in the primaries,so be it.

[privateinvestor]

As has been pointed out before being against earmarks and accepting them while looking controversial is not necessarily the case. The money is going to be handed out whether one is against them or not, you might as well get your fair share.

Iraq had little to do with having a strong national defense. Afghanistan was plenty questionable as well. Maybe if Reagan had not armed Bin Laden in the 80s with the usual foreign policy that the enemy of my enemy is my friend we wouldn't be in this predicament.

That is just a lot of nonsense...but again Ron Paul has addressed these issues but the question is does he have any credibility on spending cuts or national defense with his far our or radical ideas...that is for the voters to decide but I doubt it..IMHO

The Houston Chronicle ran several editorials requesting that Ron Paul address the question of Earmarks and his anti-military position and strong national defense and he never did..

[magichat]

Apr 26, 2011 8:53:26 GMT -5 ugonow said:

I would bet against that, he is a distraction from the usual message.

You don't see him taking some republican votes away if he runs as something else? If he runs as republican and gets beat in the primaries,so be it.

Go look up the combined third party vote in 2008, it was pathetic, considering both major party candidates voted for TARP less than a month before the election.

[ugonow]

Ron Paul has a lot of contradictions because what he preaches is not what he has practiced...he has accepted megabucks in Earmarks but preaches they are evil,

I don't think that is true.I saw him publicly defend earmarks,saying it was a representatives job to bring home the bacon,and all an earmark does is direct where money that is already going to be spent goes. In fact he says we need more earmarks....that doesn't sound like he is preaching they are evil to me.----www.ronpaul.com/2009-03-11/ron-paul-on-earmarks/

[privateinvestor]

You could see Ron Paul and Rand Paul run as Libertarians as President and Vice President respectively....now that will be a media event.....and young voters do like Ron Paul as evidenced when he ran in 2008...he did well with college kids in New England which I must admit surprised the hell out of me until one of my kids pointed it out to me..

My youngest son and his buds are all big Ron Paul fans and we have had some awesome debates about Dr No and his ideas and slowly they are convincing me he is worthy of consideration in a presidential campaign.. better than Trump, Bachman or Romney..IMHO

[ugonow]

Go look up the combined third party vote in 2008, it was pathetic, considering both major party candidates voted for TARP less than a month before the election.

That may be,but in a tight race, it could make a difference.As a matter of fact,I think that is one of the reasons people don't want to vote third party...fear of wasting a vote, which is a shame.

[magichat]

Apr 26, 2011 9:02:39 GMT -5 ugonow said:

Go look up the combined third party vote in 2008, it was pathetic, considering both major party candidates voted for TARP less than a month before the election.

That may be,but in a tight race, it could make a difference.As a matter of fact,I think that is one of the reasons people don't want to vote third party...fear of wasting a vote, which is a shame.

Yes it is. Frankly, to vote the lesser of two evils instead of your conscious shows a severe lack of character that is very depressing.

[privateinvestor]

Apr 26, 2011 8:56:24 GMT -5 ugonow said:

Ron Paul has a lot of contradictions because what he preaches is not what he has practiced...he has accepted megabucks in Earmarks but preaches they are evil,

I don't think that is true.I saw him publicly defend earmarks,saying it was a representatives job to bring home the bacon,and all an earmark does is direct where money that is already going to be spent goes. In fact he says we need more earmarks....that doesn't sound like he is preaching they are evil to me.----www.ronpaul.com/2009-03-11/ron-paul-on-earmarks/

How can anyone preach about waste and fraud and then accept millions in Earmarks for Shrimp Fishing research or research centers to study shrimp fishing??? Or why didn't Ron Paul provide answers for all of his Earmarks?? It depends where the Earmark money goes is the issue here but who knows what he thinks now about Earmarks since he does changes his ideas a lot lately especially about the Gold Standard and other monetary ideas..i.e eliminating several government agencies

BTW don't forget Ron Paul also voted against going into Afghanistan after 9/11 because he clamed we brought that devastation in NYC and the Pentagon on ourselves by having our troops in Muslim countries and that is going to be tough for him to explain again since he bombed that last time that issue was debated with Rudi Guiliani and John McCain..

[ugonow]

I wasn't defending his earmarks, just saying he did not say they were evil. To a certain extent,it is a representatives job to find funding for projects in his state. The trouble is one mans needed project is anothers pork. There is a difference between an earmark and pork. It is just no one agrees on what is and what isn't.

[privateinvestor]

Apr 26, 2011 9:09:26 GMT -5 ugonow said:

I wasn't defending his earmarks, just saying he did not say they were evil. To a certain extent,it is a representatives job to find funding for projects in his state. The trouble is one mans needed project is anothers pork. There is a difference between an earmark and pork. It is just no one agrees on what is and what isn't.

But he has in the past refused to give an accounting for his Earmarks and was taken to task by the Houston Chronicle on this and other conservative critics of Dr No..but that was when he ran in 2008 and could still be an issue if he runs again...possibly??

[magichat]

Apr 26, 2011 9:06:11 GMT -5 @privateinvestor said:

Apr 26, 2011 8:56:24 GMT -5 ugonow said:

I don't think that is true.I saw him publicly defend earmarks,saying it was a representatives job to bring home the bacon,and all an earmark does is direct where money that is already going to be spent goes. In fact he says we need more earmarks....that doesn't sound like he is preaching they are evil to me.----www.ronpaul.com/2009-03-11/ron-paul-on-earmarks/

How can anyone preach about waste and fraud and then accept millions in Earmarks for Shrimp Fishing research or research centers to study shrimp fishing??? Or why didn't Ron Paul provide answers for all of his Earmarks?? It depends where the Earmark money goes is the issue here but who knows what he thinks now about Earmarks since he does changes his ideas a lot lately especially about the Gold Standard and other monetary ideas..i.e eliminating several government agencies

BTW don't forget Ron Paul also voted against going into Afghanistan after 9/11 because he clamed we brought that devastation in NYC and the Pentagon on ourselves by having our troops in Muslim countries and that is going to be tough for him to explain again since he bombed that last time that issue was debated with Rudi Guiliani and John McCain..

I think the words you are looking for is bitch slapped as in Ron Paul bitch slapped Rudi and John with his answer about 9/11.

[privateinvestor]

Guiliani and John McCain..[/quote]

I think the words you are looking for is bitch slapped as in Ron Paul bitch slapped Rudi and John with his answer about 9/11. [/quote][/color]


Wrong again those are your words not mine...bitch slap is not in my vocabulary never was or will be...MH in all due respect

[mmhmm]

Ron Paul adds another layer to the political rhetoric that inevitably accompanies upcoming elections. More to think about, and more to compare. I see no harm there; in fact, I see the addition of food for thought for those who are really interested in voting. That, as I see it, can never be considered to be negative.

[reasonfreedom]

Apr 26, 2011 8:43:21 GMT -5 @privateinvestor said:

Ron Paul has a lot of contradictions because what he preaches is not what he has practiced...he has accepted megabucks in Earmarks but preaches they are evil, he preaches about a strong national defense but voted against going into Iraq, and Afghanistan, his economic ideas are right out of the Austrian School of Economics which is going to be a tough sell during our budgetary constraints and political infighting on spending cuts

But his criticism of the Federal Reserve was right on...so let's see what he has to say if he campaigns again...I do like some of his ideas...or think he has some good suggestions but probably none of the Republicans think so..??

Congressman are voted in by their districts to better server their districts I don't see what is wrong with him getting funding to help the community even if it is called earmarks.

A national defense has nothing to do with Iraq or Afghan come on that is common sense. Irag nor Afghan neither attacked our county, hence has nothing to do with our defense.

[reasonfreedom]

Apr 26, 2011 9:06:11 GMT -5 @privateinvestor said:

Apr 26, 2011 8:56:24 GMT -5 ugonow said:

I don't think that is true.I saw him publicly defend earmarks,saying it was a representatives job to bring home the bacon,and all an earmark does is direct where money that is already going to be spent goes. In fact he says we need more earmarks....that doesn't sound like he is preaching they are evil to me.----www.ronpaul.com/2009-03-11/ron-paul-on-earmarks/

How can anyone preach about waste and fraud and then accept millions in Earmarks for Shrimp Fishing research or research centers to study shrimp fishing??? Or why didn't Ron Paul provide answers for all of his Earmarks?? It depends where the Earmark money goes is the issue here but who knows what he thinks now about Earmarks since he does changes his ideas a lot lately especially about the Gold Standard and other monetary ideas..i.e eliminating several government agencies

BTW don't forget Ron Paul also voted against going into Afghanistan after 9/11 because he clamed we brought that devastation in NYC and the Pentagon on ourselves by having our troops in Muslim countries and that is going to be tough for him to explain again since he bombed that last time that issue was debated with Rudi Guiliani and John McCain..

So you are saying that finding ways to enhance our food supply is a bad thing or a waste? The next time food prices go up or we have food shortages, just remember that you were complaining about the research to prevent it. Seriously? You have to have something better than that.

[reasonfreedom]

Apr 26, 2011 9:06:11 GMT -5 @privateinvestor said:

Apr 26, 2011 8:56:24 GMT -5 ugonow said:

I don't think that is true.I saw him publicly defend earmarks,saying it was a representatives job to bring home the bacon,and all an earmark does is direct where money that is already going to be spent goes. In fact he says we need more earmarks....that doesn't sound like he is preaching they are evil to me.----www.ronpaul.com/2009-03-11/ron-paul-on-earmarks/

How can anyone preach about waste and fraud and then accept millions in Earmarks for Shrimp Fishing research or research centers to study shrimp fishing??? Or why didn't Ron Paul provide answers for all of his Earmarks?? It depends where the Earmark money goes is the issue here but who knows what he thinks now about Earmarks since he does changes his ideas a lot lately especially about the Gold Standard and other monetary ideas..i.e eliminating several government agencies

BTW don't forget Ron Paul also voted against going into Afghanistan after 9/11 because he clamed we brought that devastation in NYC and the Pentagon on ourselves by having our troops in Muslim countries and that is going to be tough for him to explain again since he bombed that last time that issue was debated with Rudi Guiliani and John McCain..

Is their proof that we didn't cause 9/11 indirectly? We went into Iraq and many of our soldiers died, I am guessing we didn't cause that either? If you pull on a dog's tail enough, he will eventually bite you( I have seen many cases of that). Who am I to argue with somebody that has been a congressman for 21 years, you would think he would have more knowledge about the situation than any of us or a New York mayor. As far as Mccain goes I never though he was mentally stable, 5 1/2 years as a POW come on? Let alone the mental trauma he must have went through, what about the hate/embarrassment he had at being caught for those many years.

[reasonfreedom]

As far as RP contradicting himself, that is a contradiction in itself. Ron Paul has one of the longest/most consistent records as a congressman. Go ahead and look up his voting records for the past 21 years, it shows that he holds to the same beliefs he had when he first started as a congressman. I know he is very consistent because I checked them myself before I decided to campaign for him last year. Not to say that he never contradicts himself, because we are human and won't always say what we mean 100% of the time, but compared to the other primary contenders he blew them out of the water as far as consistency with beliefs.

[privateinvestor]

reasonforfreedom...are you aware that the military are given a National Defense Medal ?? The military is a vital part of our National Defense and Ron Paul wants to radically cut the Defense budget which his critics in congress claim would weaken our national defense.. He is was one of the top three congressmen who received the most in Earmarks recently again his critics think this is being a hyprocrite...cut spending to the bone but accept millions in Earmarks is highly contentious and the Liberals would eat his lunch on this issue just ask one about it..

He has changed his mind on using the Gold Standard because of our economic slowdown...but who knows he could change his mind again

[reasonfreedom]

Here is a link for any question you have as to what RP thinks about earmarks.

www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/earmark-reform/

[ugonow]

His coworkers don't exactly think he is productive-----"His voting record is … it’s horrid — 351 pieces of legislation he sponsored, six came out of committee, and none have ever passed. And if you go back and look, he just regurgitates the same pieces of legislation. “Restore the Second Amendment.” What does that mean, exactly?

But that’s his bill, and two years later he submits the bill again. He just keeps reprinting these and throwing them out there. And now he doesn’t even get any cosponsors on many of his bills. [With] many of his amendments, he’s called out of order on the floor for even putting the amendment in, because he doesn’t follow the rules of operation in the House.

He’s up there to make a point, not a difference. He wants to be called out of order because then it’s unique and it’s unusual, and he gets press, or at least Roll Call will say “Here he goes again.” But you know, if you do that once a year or once a term, it works. If you do it three or four times a day, it gets old."

[reasonfreedom]

Apr 26, 2011 10:11:01 GMT -5 @privateinvestor said:

reasonforfreedom...are you aware that the military are given a National Defense Medal ?? The military is a vital part of our National Defense and Ron Paul wants to radically cut the Defense budget which his critics in congress claim would weaken our national defense.. He is was one of the top three congressmen who received the most in Earmarks recently again his critics think this is being a hyprocrite...cut spending to the bone but accept millions in Earmarks is highly contentious and the Liberals would eat his lunch on this issue just ask one about it..

Ok, a lot of people want to cut the defense. Do you know which parts he wants to cut? I know one, that is decreasing our base occupation in foreign countries and our funding that goes to them. I have no problem since our "defense of the country" has nothing to do with occupation of others.

[privateinvestor]

Apr 26, 2011 10:11:38 GMT -5 reasonfreedom said:

Here is a link for any question you have as to what RP thinks about earmarks.

www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/earmark-reform/

Your link is two years old is that what Ron Paul still thinks about Earmarks after the recent floor debates on this issue in the House...try googling something more recent..

However Ron Paul may be right about bringing our troops home ASAP and saving billions over the next ten years... but does he have any support in congress for this proposal?? I don't think so...but things could change in an election year..??