VP debate Tuesday

[ken a.k.a OMK]

I think and hope that when trump goes so do does his party and the real GOP can get back on track.

[tbop77]

Oct 2, 2024 8:11:07 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Oct 2, 2024 5:24:32 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Seemed like something out of the twilight zone!  They acted respectful to each other, no name calling, insult slinging....Damn, even agreeing with each other on occasion.  

Meanwhile:

www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/opinion-vance-and-walz-had-civil-debate-trump-flung-career-damning-insults-at-soldiers/ar-AA1ryRKV?cvid=32c5cb9420fa4021bc9a93635acbe9bc&ei=6

From your linked article:

At the vice presidential debate, Vance gave an Oscar-worthy performance in his role as “guy trying to pretend his boss is normal.” But even that fell apart near the end when the subject of certification of the 2020 election came up and Vance was incapable of admitting Trump lost.

Walz asked Vance: “Did he lose the 2020 election?”

Vance non-responded: “Tim, I’m focused on the future. Did Kamala Harris censor Americans from speaking their mind in the wake of the 2020 COVID situation?”

To which Walz accurately said: “That is a damning non-answer.”

Yeah, it’s pretty damning. And the very fact that Vance couldn’t give a straight answer to the easiest question ever shows that his running mate – his boss – is a maniac.

I know, could you imagine Trump's post if Vance had answered truthfully?  

[tbop77]

I've heard them insinuate several times that Trump saved the ACA.  I can't figure out their logic.  Anyone know what exactly they are talking about?

[NastyWoman]

Oct 2, 2024 14:09:55 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

I've heard them insinuate several times that Trump saved the ACA.  I can't figure out their logic.  Anyone know what exactly they are talking about?

No, nor does anyone else and that would include any and all Magidiots if they had to actually give a detailed answers or provide any specifics

[billisonboard]

Oct 2, 2024 14:09:55 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

I've heard them insinuate several times that Trump saved the ACA.  I can't figure out their logic.  Anyone know what exactly they are talking about?

Link to something I read on the issue:

www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4911761-vance-trump-affordable-care-act/amp/

[Tennesseer]

The Borowitz Report

Vance Calls Eruption of Mt. Vesuvius a Peaceful Transfer of Lava

NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report)—Speaking to reporters in the spin room after Tuesday night’s vice-presidential debate, Sen. JD Vance called the eruption of Mt. Vesuvius in 79 A.D. a “peaceful transfer of lava.”

“If Mt. Vesuvius had really been so bad, people would have left Pompeii,” he said. “The fact is, after the volcano erupted, no one moved.”

In other post-debate news, the QR code that CBS News employed to fact-check the contest has quit the network in disgust.

“It was a nightmare having to fact-check JD Vance’s hundreds of lies,” the QR code said. “Those moderators should’ve done their damn job.”

Vance Calls Eruption of Mt. Vesuvius a Peaceful Transfer of Lava

[djAdvocate]

Oct 2, 2024 1:50:18 GMT -5 dondubble said:

Oct 1, 2024 23:13:57 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Did Vance really say trump saved Obamacare/AcCA?

What happened? I’m in Italy.

scouting out property?
you could do worse.

[djAdvocate]

Oct 2, 2024 14:19:50 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Oct 2, 2024 14:09:55 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

I've heard them insinuate several times that Trump saved the ACA.  I can't figure out their logic.  Anyone know what exactly they are talking about?

No, nor does anyone else and that would include any and all Magidiots if they had to actually give a detailed answers or provide any specifics

it is MAGA-speak for "the ACA survived under his watch".
ditto for the republic.

neither will be so lucky, if there is a next time.

[djAdvocate]

PS- of the four people that were in the last two debates, only one of them appeared prepared to be president.

[dondubble]

Oct 2, 2024 18:21:43 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Oct 2, 2024 1:50:18 GMT -5 dondubble said:

What happened? I’m in Italy.

scouting out property?
you could do worse.

Nope, just wineries and food.in Milan, Piemonte, and Tuscany.

[dondubble]

Although I am drooling over the architecture. Incredible! And the winery caves are monumental. The labor involved 2, 3, 400 years ago. The walled cities out in the countryside are amazing.

[dondubble]

Ercolani in Montepulciano today. Their caves have an Etruscan tomb and sections from the 1100’s. Amazing stuff.

And have yet to have any dopio macchiatos that weren’t just exquisite and I’m from coffeeville.

[minnesotapaintlady]

Normally I don't pay a lot of attention to the VP candidate, but Vance concerns me a ton.  Despite all the images to the contrary on his trading cards, Trump is old and not a healthy man, and while the MAGA crowd refuses to see it, he's declined a LOT in the past few years.  It's a very real possibility he dies in office.

[tbop77]

Oct 2, 2024 11:18:20 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Oct 2, 2024 11:07:28 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

The unsettling idea of trump winning the election is I don't see trump alive by the end of his term.  trump seems to be deteriorating/declining before our eyes.  That would mean vance would then be president until at least the end of trump's term.

In name only. Peter Thiel will be pulling the strings.

Not that is matters to me, but isn't Peter Thiel gay?  Hard to understand how he can support Vance with their stance on the gay community.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11926699/Peter-Thiels-model-boyfriend-died-WEEKS-NYE-showdown-billionaire-husband.html

[Tennesseer]

Oct 4, 2024 12:43:26 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Oct 2, 2024 11:18:20 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

In name only. Peter Thiel will be pulling the strings.

Not that is matters to me, but isn't Peter Thiel gay?  Hard to understand how he can support Vance with their stance on the gay community.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11926699/Peter-Thiels-model-boyfriend-died-WEEKS-NYE-showdown-billionaire-husband.html

Log Cabin republicans.

[tbop77]

Oct 4, 2024 12:52:39 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Oct 4, 2024 12:43:26 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Not that is matters to me, but isn't Peter Thiel gay?  Hard to understand how he can support Vance with their stance on the gay community.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11926699/Peter-Thiels-model-boyfriend-died-WEEKS-NYE-showdown-billionaire-husband.html

Log Cabin republicans.

Interesting!  I'd never heard of that.  Thank you!
From what I read, they didn't support Trump in 2016.  

[pulmonarymd]

Money is more important than identity or being true to yourself

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

All humans to more or less of a degree can be convinced to go against their own interests if it means they get (or think they are getting) a better deal than that guy over there.

I'm a straight cis white female.   In order to get a better deal than LBQTG+ people and minorities someone could try to convince me to give up some of my rights that benefit me as a woman.

That's how the reformation in the South got torn apart and Jim Crow rose from the ashes.  The rich white Southerns realized that they were going to hell in a handbasket if poor white farmers banded together with the newly freed slaves.  So they convinced those people that while they weren't going to help them be less poor they would make sure the freed slaves were even MORE poor so the poor white people looked better by comparison.

False equivalency.  It is one of the few things Trump is an absolute master in.

[Tennesseer]

Oct 4, 2024 13:17:32 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Oct 4, 2024 12:52:39 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Log Cabin republicans.

Interesting!  I'd never heard of that.  Thank you!
From what I read, they didn't support Trump in 2016.  

true.

They did though endorse trump in 2020. No word yet from the group regarding trump and 2024. Probably will endorse trump.

Look and see who the Log Cabin Republicans are so far endorsing in 2024.

2024 Endorsed Candidates

[tbop77]

pridesource.com/article/creep-of-the-week-oct-3-2024

After reading this, I get it now!