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Post by happyhoix on Sept 24, 2024 7:06:16 GMT -5
I thought hurricanes formed in the Atlantic and cyclones in the Pacific?
The NOAA reports about the current weather event in the Gulf the refer to it as Potential Tropical Cyclone 9. (Once it gets to hurricane strength it will be Hurricane Helene.)
Is this like what happened to Pluto? What is the difference between hurricanes and cyclones now?
By the way, very exciting we will maybe be getting several inches of rain out of Helene. We’re in a drought right now.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Sept 24, 2024 7:40:06 GMT -5
The Gulf of Mexico is part of the Atlantic Basin, hence a Hurricane. Storms in the Eastern Pacific are also called Hurricanes. Storms in the Western Pacific and Indian Oceans are Cyclones
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I thought hurricanes formed in the Atlantic and cyclones in the Pacific? The NOAA reports about the current weather event in the Gulf the refer to it as Potential Tropical Cyclone 9. (Once it gets to hurricane strength it will be Hurricane Helene.) Is this like what happened to Pluto? What is the difference between hurricanes and cyclones now? By the way, very exciting we will maybe be getting several inches of rain out of Helene. We’re in a drought right now. Yes the rain will be good for the area. Lake Hartwell is terrible. I hope everyone is safe. My daughter is in Savannah Ga her husband is in the military they are going thru now helping securing areas.
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 24, 2024 7:57:54 GMT -5
When stationed on Guam in the Pacific, it was hit by a 200 mile per hour wind storm, which was called by everyone a typhoon.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 24, 2024 9:17:20 GMT -5
I thought hurricanes formed in the Atlantic and cyclones in the Pacific? The NOAA reports about the current weather event in the Gulf the refer to it as Potential Tropical Cyclone 9. (Once it gets to hurricane strength it will be Hurricane Helene.) Is this like what happened to Pluto? What is the difference between hurricanes and cyclones now? By the way, very exciting we will maybe be getting several inches of rain out of Helene. We’re in a drought right now. Yes the rain will be good for the area. Lake Hartwell is terrible. I hope everyone is safe. My daughter is in Savannah Ga her husband is in the military they are going thru now helping securing areas. I hope Savannah doesn’t get hit too hard. They have a lot of lovely live oaks festooned with Spanish moss. And a lot of antebellum houses.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 24, 2024 9:18:19 GMT -5
The Gulf of Mexico is part of the Atlantic Basin, hence a Hurricane. Storms in the Eastern Pacific are also called Hurricanes. Storms in the Western Pacific and Indian Oceans are Cyclones So northern hemisphere is hurricane and cyclones are southern hemisphere?
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Post by pulmonarymd on Sept 24, 2024 9:22:07 GMT -5
The Gulf of Mexico is part of the Atlantic Basin, hence a Hurricane. Storms in the Eastern Pacific are also called Hurricanes. Storms in the Western Pacific and Indian Oceans are Cyclones So northern hemisphere is hurricane and cyclones are southern hemisphere? A hurricane is a type of cyclone. Hurricane was the Indigenous name for these storms in the Atlantic/Caribbean, but yes to your question
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 24, 2024 9:23:13 GMT -5
What is the difference between a hurricane and a typhoon?Hurricanes and typhoons are the same weather phenomenon: tropical cyclones. A tropical cyclone is a generic term used by meteorologists to describe a rotating, organized system of clouds and thunderstorms that originates over tropical or subtropical waters and has closed, low-level circulation.
The weakest tropical cyclones are called tropical depressions. If a depression intensifies such that its maximum sustained winds reach 39 miles per hour, the tropical cyclone becomes a tropical storm. Once a tropical cyclone reaches maximum sustained winds of 74 miles per hour or higher, it is then classified as a hurricane, typhoon, or tropical cyclone, depending upon where the storm originates in the world. In the North Atlantic, central North Pacific, and eastern North Pacific, the term hurricane is used. The same type of disturbance in the Northwest Pacific is called a typhoon. Meanwhile, in the South Pacific and Indian Ocean, the generic term tropical cyclone is used, regardless of the strength of the wind associated with the weather system.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 24, 2024 9:32:36 GMT -5
Ok thanks for the explanation.
I couldn’t recall NOAA referring to hurricanes as cyclones before, but maybe I only heard about them after they were officially given a hurricane name.
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Post by Tiny on Sept 25, 2024 10:14:27 GMT -5
These are all just my observations:
There have been a lot of changes at NOAA (the website atleast). I'm not sure if it's driven by changes made by trump when he was president or if it's just the natural progression of improvements. Big changes usually take years think of it as "hey! we should do this to the final rollout" that's taking a year or more. (I know Project 2025 wants to remove any and "climate change" anything from NOAA - but that's going forward. I'm sure some of trump's doings while president did effect NOAA - just not sure to what end.)
The NOAA hurricane "cone" has also changed.
I did find it really odd that the storm was named IN THE NEWS days before it officially became a hurricane and I also found it odd that there wasn't a "wait and see" period before Florida put through evacuation orders. In the past, it seemed that there was a 24 hour or less time frame on the evacuation orders and the area effected was usually smaller.
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Post by steff on Sept 26, 2024 15:07:48 GMT -5
If it's not one thing, it's another. It's coming right up our asses where I'm at in Georgia. I came home from work to find I already have 1 tree down. The bad winds aren't even here yet! Luckily it fell between our house & the neighbors. Didn't hit either house. There's a 2nd tree right next to it that makes me nervous. If it goes, it WILL hit the house. Hubby is on his way home from work & he'll check it all out. I'm already drenched from bringing in everything from the deck. I wasn't quite ready to find a place for 10 plants, but here we are. Took down my disco balls & fixing to go take down all my Edison lights.
Hubby's work has closed tomorrow. Which is shocking because they NEVER close. Kiddo has to work tonight and will be driving home right when it's supposed to get nasty here. Thankfully we're not far from his work & he doesn't have to get on a freeway. (Un) Lucky me, our store doesn't plan on closing as of this time. Can only hope that the power goes out and they are forced to close. No way I want to stand around a craft store during a hurricane. And I sure don't want to deal with anyone who thinks they need to go to a craft store during a hurricane. Old Biddies are bad enough.
Hope everyone stays safe and doesn't float away!
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 29, 2024 9:05:05 GMT -5
If it's not one thing, it's another. It's coming right up our asses where I'm at in Georgia. I came home from work to find I already have 1 tree down. The bad winds aren't even here yet! Luckily it fell between our house & the neighbors. Didn't hit either house. There's a 2nd tree right next to it that makes me nervous. If it goes, it WILL hit the house. Hubby is on his way home from work & he'll check it all out. I'm already drenched from bringing in everything from the deck. I wasn't quite ready to find a place for 10 plants, but here we are. Took down my disco balls & fixing to go take down all my Edison lights.
Hubby's work has closed tomorrow. Which is shocking because they NEVER close. Kiddo has to work tonight and will be driving home right when it's supposed to get nasty here. Thankfully we're not far from his work & he doesn't have to get on a freeway. (Un) Lucky me, our store doesn't plan on closing as of this time. Can only hope that the power goes out and they are forced to close. No way I want to stand around a craft store during a hurricane. And I sure don't want to deal with anyone who thinks they need to go to a craft store during a hurricane. Old Biddies are bad enough.
Hope everyone stays safe and doesn't float away!
I live up in the north west corner of GA and we did not do too bad - about 5 inches of rain and a few trees down. However, poor western North Carolina is really struggling. The four lane highway coming into Asheville from Knoxville is shut down, as are almost all the other surface roads. Cell phone coverage is spotty, so it’s hard to know for sure what’s happening, but there are some pictures getting out, showing areas where small towns are just raging water. I always thought if you lived in the mountains and it rained a lot, the rain would run off pretty quickly, but clearly I was wrong. Asheville is one of my two favorite cities in the south (the other is Savannah). You expect Savannah to periodically get clobbered by a hurricane, being on the coast, but it’s crazy that Asheville, so far away and so high in the mountains, got devastated.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Sept 29, 2024 9:56:49 GMT -5
If it's not one thing, it's another. It's coming right up our asses where I'm at in Georgia. I came home from work to find I already have 1 tree down. The bad winds aren't even here yet! Luckily it fell between our house & the neighbors. Didn't hit either house. There's a 2nd tree right next to it that makes me nervous. If it goes, it WILL hit the house. Hubby is on his way home from work & he'll check it all out. I'm already drenched from bringing in everything from the deck. I wasn't quite ready to find a place for 10 plants, but here we are. Took down my disco balls & fixing to go take down all my Edison lights.
Hubby's work has closed tomorrow. Which is shocking because they NEVER close. Kiddo has to work tonight and will be driving home right when it's supposed to get nasty here. Thankfully we're not far from his work & he doesn't have to get on a freeway. (Un) Lucky me, our store doesn't plan on closing as of this time. Can only hope that the power goes out and they are forced to close. No way I want to stand around a craft store during a hurricane. And I sure don't want to deal with anyone who thinks they need to go to a craft store during a hurricane. Old Biddies are bad enough.
Hope everyone stays safe and doesn't float away!
I live up in the north west corner of GA and we did not do too bad - about 5 inches of rain and a few trees down. However, poor western North Carolina is really struggling. The four lane highway coming into Asheville from Knoxville is shut down, as are almost all the other surface roads. Cell phone coverage is spotty, so it’s hard to know for sure what’s happening, but there are some pictures getting out, showing areas where small towns are just raging water. I always thought if you lived in the mountains and it rained a lot, the rain would run off pretty quickly, but clearly I was wrong. Asheville is one of my two favorite cities in the south (the other is Savannah). You expect Savannah to periodically get clobbered by a hurricane, being on the coast, but it’s crazy that Asheville, so far away and so high in the mountains, got devastated. I26 between Erwin TN at exit 37 and the NC state line is closed, roughly 15 miles. Both sides of the interstate are washed out.
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I live up in the north west corner of GA and we did not do too bad - about 5 inches of rain and a few trees down. However, poor western North Carolina is really struggling. The four lane highway coming into Asheville from Knoxville is shut down, as are almost all the other surface roads. Cell phone coverage is spotty, so it’s hard to know for sure what’s happening, but there are some pictures getting out, showing areas where small towns are just raging water. I always thought if you lived in the mountains and it rained a lot, the rain would run off pretty quickly, but clearly I was wrong. Asheville is one of my two favorite cities in the south (the other is Savannah). You expect Savannah to periodically get clobbered by a hurricane, being on the coast, but it’s crazy that Asheville, so far away and so high in the mountains, got devastated. I26 between Erwin TN at exit 37 and the NC state line is closed, roughly 15 miles. Both sides of the interstate are washed out. I remember several years ago the freeway from Knoxville to Asheville had a big landslide that took out half the road and it seemed like it took a really long time to clear it and fix the road. That was just that one road out - this time, it’s many roads. Also, went to shop at Ingles grocery store yesterday and they could only take cash or personal checks - no credit or debit cards. Plus they couldn’t order more goods from the warehouses - apparently Ingles is based around Asheville and their whole network is down right now.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Sept 29, 2024 10:13:49 GMT -5
I26 between Erwin TN at exit 37 and the NC state line is closed, roughly 15 miles. Both sides of the interstate are washed out. I remember several years ago the freeway from Knoxville to Asheville had a big landslide that took out half the road and it seemed like it took a really long time to clear it and fix the road. That was just that one road out - this time, it’s many roads. Also, went to shop at Ingles grocery store yesterday and they could only take cash or personal checks - no credit or debit cards. Plus they couldn’t order more goods from the warehouses - apparently Ingles is based around Asheville and their whole network is down right now. We shop at Publix. We are always there around 8:30 on Sundays because there are very few people there. This morning it was packed and it was evident that delivery trucks haven’t been able to get through for normal deliveries because there was a fair amount of empty shelves.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 29, 2024 10:31:04 GMT -5
I remember several years ago the freeway from Knoxville to Asheville had a big landslide that took out half the road and it seemed like it took a really long time to clear it and fix the road. That was just that one road out - this time, it’s many roads. Also, went to shop at Ingles grocery store yesterday and they could only take cash or personal checks - no credit or debit cards. Plus they couldn’t order more goods from the warehouses - apparently Ingles is based around Asheville and their whole network is down right now. We shop at Publix. We are always there around 8:30 on Sundays because there are very few people there. This morning it was packed and it was evident that delivery trucks haven’t been able to get through for normal deliveries because there was a fair amount of empty shelves. Well, the rumor will probably start around that the groceries can’t restock and there will be a huge run on bread, milk and toilet paper…. we do that everyone it looks like snow around here.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Sept 29, 2024 10:46:18 GMT -5
We shop at Publix. We are always there around 8:30 on Sundays because there are very few people there. This morning it was packed and it was evident that delivery trucks haven’t been able to get through for normal deliveries because there was a fair amount of empty shelves. Well, the rumor will probably start around that the groceries can’t restock and there will be a huge run on bread, milk and toilet paper…. we do that everyone it looks like snow around here. There was definitely a run on bottled water. I do suspect there are a lot of compromised wells and whatnot, so the water is probably legitimately needed. The store was limiting to 3-24 packs, so there would be enough to provide some for everyone.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 29, 2024 14:28:47 GMT -5
Several years ago I sat in on the Tennessee emergency response preplanning for earthquakes, and found out that they have storage units near every bridge in TN with the equipment they would need to throw up a temporary bridge over the major roads, to get distribution systems up and running again ASAP - I’m hoping North Carolina did the same preplanning and has the same caches of building materials. (TN also had maps of all the warehouse sized refrigerators and ice skating rinks that could be used for temporary morgues ) I saw a short news report about the flooding in Weaverville, they lost their power and also their sewer and water plants, so yes, they are needing drinking water. We stopped at a lovely brew pub in Weaverville several years ago, it’s a beautiful mountain town. I’ve lived here for about 30 years now and can only remember one hurricane that blew over us, this far inland. It created one windy day of horizontal rain. I can’t recall any time a place as far inland as Asheville got so much rainfall from a hurricane before. Usually, it’s high tides and high winds along the coast that do most of the damage.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 29, 2024 19:45:03 GMT -5
Wow, can’t get in or out of Asheville except by air.
Freeways and side roads all closed.
Crazy.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 29, 2024 20:52:29 GMT -5
One of the sentimental bridges, the Rainbow Bridge in Lake Lure, North Carolina, was destroyed during the hurricane.
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Post by NastyWoman on Sept 30, 2024 13:15:55 GMT -5
If it's not one thing, it's another. It's coming right up our asses where I'm at in Georgia. I came home from work to find I already have 1 tree down. The bad winds aren't even here yet! Luckily it fell between our house & the neighbors. Didn't hit either house. There's a 2nd tree right next to it that makes me nervous. If it goes, it WILL hit the house. Hubby is on his way home from work & he'll check it all out. I'm already drenched from bringing in everything from the deck. I wasn't quite ready to find a place for 10 plants, but here we are. Took down my disco balls & fixing to go take down all my Edison lights.
Hubby's work has closed tomorrow. Which is shocking because they NEVER close. Kiddo has to work tonight and will be driving home right when it's supposed to get nasty here. Thankfully we're not far from his work & he doesn't have to get on a freeway. (Un) Lucky me, our store doesn't plan on closing as of this time. Can only hope that the power goes out and they are forced to close. No way I want to stand around a craft store during a hurricane. And I sure don't want to deal with anyone who thinks they need to go to a craft store during a hurricane. Old Biddies are bad enough.
Hope everyone stays safe and doesn't float away!
Hi Steph. I just realized that you have not posted since this message. Please let us know that you and yours are ok.
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If it's not one thing, it's another. It's coming right up our asses where I'm at in Georgia. I came home from work to find I already have 1 tree down. The bad winds aren't even here yet! Luckily it fell between our house & the neighbors. Didn't hit either house. There's a 2nd tree right next to it that makes me nervous. If it goes, it WILL hit the house. Hubby is on his way home from work & he'll check it all out. I'm already drenched from bringing in everything from the deck. I wasn't quite ready to find a place for 10 plants, but here we are. Took down my disco balls & fixing to go take down all my Edison lights.
Hubby's work has closed tomorrow. Which is shocking because they NEVER close. Kiddo has to work tonight and will be driving home right when it's supposed to get nasty here. Thankfully we're not far from his work & he doesn't have to get on a freeway. (Un) Lucky me, our store doesn't plan on closing as of this time. Can only hope that the power goes out and they are forced to close. No way I want to stand around a craft store during a hurricane. And I sure don't want to deal with anyone who thinks they need to go to a craft store during a hurricane. Old Biddies are bad enough.
Hope everyone stays safe and doesn't float away!
Hi Steph. I just realized that you have not posted since this message. Please let us know that you and yours are ok. Steff is posting on FB. Now troubled (air) by a chlorine fire in the area.
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Post by Opti on Sept 30, 2024 20:37:17 GMT -5
Hi Steph. I just realized that you have not posted since this message. Please let us know that you and yours are ok. Steff is posting on FB. Now troubled (air) by a chlorine fire in the area.Makes sense. Sounds scary, I hope it dissipates quickly and safely.
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Post by steff on Oct 1, 2024 19:14:21 GMT -5
We made it thru the storm fine. Had 1 smallish tree come down in the back yard. Luckily it fell between our house & the neighbors. Didn't hit anything, missed the a/c unit by less than a foot. We didn't even lose power for more than a couple of flickers. There were a lot of trees & limbs down all over the place. But compared to what others experienced, it was no big deal here.
and yep, we've had the chlorine smoke from the Biolabs fire in Conyers blowing across us every so often. We didn't have a shelter in place or the "turn off your a/c" warning, but could definitely see the haze from the smoke and smell a very strong chlorine smell. Luckily, it blew out when the winds shifted direction.
I thought living in a small town was supposed to have less drama & disaster. A school shooting, deadly hurricane and a chemical spill/fire. Are aliens next?
I hope everyone who has had to deal with the hurricane are safe and secure.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 3, 2024 22:27:30 GMT -5
A satellite image of the path of Hurricane Helene.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Oct 7, 2024 11:35:57 GMT -5
We made it thru the storm fine. Had 1 smallish tree come down in the back yard. Luckily it fell between our house & the neighbors. Didn't hit anything, missed the a/c unit by less than a foot. We didn't even lose power for more than a couple of flickers. There were a lot of trees & limbs down all over the place. But compared to what others experienced, it was no big deal here.
and yep, we've had the chlorine smoke from the Biolabs fire in Conyers blowing across us every so often. We didn't have a shelter in place or the "turn off your a/c" warning, but could definitely see the haze from the smoke and smell a very strong chlorine smell. Luckily, it blew out when the winds shifted direction.
I thought living in a small town was supposed to have less drama & disaster. A school shooting, deadly hurricane and a chemical spill/fire. Are aliens next?
I hope everyone who has had to deal with the hurricane are safe and secure.
Dang, you've been through some stuff. Southeast FL here. We are ready, as we will get some effects from Milton. Outside of the house is cleaned up and ready to go. Got plenty of food, water, pet stuff and the generator has propane. I am doing bulk laundry now (towels and sheets) and finished cleaning the house. Dishwasher and final clothes wash will be tomorrow a.m. We have had almost three days of rain already. so the ground is pretty saturated. There is already flooding.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Oct 8, 2024 16:41:27 GMT -5
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 8, 2024 16:55:12 GMT -5
We made it thru the storm fine. Had 1 smallish tree come down in the back yard. Luckily it fell between our house & the neighbors. Didn't hit anything, missed the a/c unit by less than a foot. We didn't even lose power for more than a couple of flickers. There were a lot of trees & limbs down all over the place. But compared to what others experienced, it was no big deal here.
and yep, we've had the chlorine smoke from the Biolabs fire in Conyers blowing across us every so often. We didn't have a shelter in place or the "turn off your a/c" warning, but could definitely see the haze from the smoke and smell a very strong chlorine smell. Luckily, it blew out when the winds shifted direction.
I thought living in a small town was supposed to have less drama & disaster. A school shooting, deadly hurricane and a chemical spill/fire. Are aliens next?
I hope everyone who has had to deal with the hurricane are safe and secure.
Dang, you've been through some stuff. Southeast FL here. We are ready, as we will get some effects from Milton. Outside of the house is cleaned up and ready to go. Got plenty of food, water, pet stuff and the generator has propane. I am doing bulk laundry now (towels and sheets) and finished cleaning the house. Dishwasher and final clothes wash will be tomorrow a.m. We have had almost three days of rain already. so the ground is pretty saturated. There is already flooding.
That’s what happened to Asheville, they had a couple days of heavy rain before the hurricane even showed up. I’m sure Florida has a lot of special engineering devices for the amounts of rain you get from hurricanes- poor Asheville does not. Hopefully this will not be awful. Take care!!
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