Coming to your grade school: First Aid training

[Tiny]

That didn't take long. 

Isn't this more or less training children to be Combat Medics?  

www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/health/gun-violence-stop-the-bleed-children-gupta/index.html

When I visited Rocklin Elementary school, I sat in on a lesson with a third-grade class – a lesson I would never have imagined as a father, a journalist or a trauma surgeon.



“Chances are, you’re never ever going to have to use this. If you do, it’s gonna be scary,” Kate Carleton told the 20 or so 8- and 9-year-olds. “But because we’ve taught you what to do, it makes it a little less scary.”



She spent the next 30 minutes teaching them how to stop a wound from bleeding out. The lesson is appropriately titled “Stop the Bleed.”

www.businessinsider.com/texas-lawmaker-lobbies-for-3rd-graders-get-aid-training-shootings-2023-5

A Texas lawmaker has proposed a bill to ensure that children as young as eight-years-old receive annual training to man bleeding control stations.



These stations are emergency first aid resources that can be used in times of tragedy, such as school shootings.



Representative Barbara Gervin-Hawkins — who has proposed the law — has said that since the mass school shooting at Robb Elementary shooting in Uvalde that killed 19 fourth graders and two teachers, children should receive this training to save lives, according to CBS Austin.

 

[Tennesseer]

Jun 27, 2024 10:25:17 GMT -5 Tiny said:

That didn't take long. 

Isn't this more or less training children to be Combat Medics?  

www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/health/gun-violence-stop-the-bleed-children-gupta/index.html

When I visited Rocklin Elementary school, I sat in on a lesson with a third-grade class – a lesson I would never have imagined as a father, a journalist or a trauma surgeon.



“Chances are, you’re never ever going to have to use this. If you do, it’s gonna be scary,” Kate Carleton told the 20 or so 8- and 9-year-olds. “But because we’ve taught you what to do, it makes it a little less scary.”



She spent the next 30 minutes teaching them how to stop a wound from bleeding out. The lesson is appropriately titled “Stop the Bleed.”

www.businessinsider.com/texas-lawmaker-lobbies-for-3rd-graders-get-aid-training-shootings-2023-5

A Texas lawmaker has proposed a bill to ensure that children as young as eight-years-old receive annual training to man bleeding control stations.



These stations are emergency first aid resources that can be used in times of tragedy, such as school shootings.



Representative Barbara Gervin-Hawkins — who has proposed the law — has said that since the mass school shooting at Robb Elementary shooting in Uvalde that killed 19 fourth graders and two teachers, children should receive this training to save lives, according to CBS Austin.

 

Tennesse may just need this training seeing the governor signed a law allowing teachers to possess firearms in their classrooms.

My county said no thank you to guns in the classroom. School districts can opt out.

[happyhoix]

So on the Titanic, instead of slowing down and avoiding ice burgs, they should have handed mops out to everyone, and it would be fine. 🤬

I’m a grown ass woman who does CPR training and my biggest fear is that I will freeze and forget how to use the defibrillator when a coworker really needs it. We’ve had one of our FA trained employees literally run away when a guy stabbed his finger with a tool. Yet we think 3rd graders will be able to act like wartime medics if a shooter blasts his way through the school?

Sounds like a bad SNL skit.

[mollyc]

My dad was one of the first aid attendants at a sawmill. The Mounties would pull him off the work bus if there was a car accident to help until the ambulance arrived. He dealt with some pretty nasty shit. When he lost parts of his fingers at work, he had to pack them on ice himself because the other attendant needed to fight passing out after bandaging my dad’s hand.

Yet when my mom passed out and stopped breathing all he could do was yell at her to breathe. He totally panicked. Mom would have died if my brother and his wife hadn’t been there.

I think everyone should have some idea how to stop bleeding. My friends and I ran around in the bush as kids and sometimes our cuts from branches were bad enough to require some pressure for a little while. But if you are putting it on kids that they need to know how to keep a friend from bleeding out, you are setting them up for big problems down the road. Not only is there the anxiety some of these kids will get from the possibility of this happening but you are setting them up to have guilt for failing their classmates along with the usual survivors guilt. Fuck that.

[NastyWoman]

Jun 27, 2024 10:25:17 GMT -5 Tiny said:

That didn't take long. 

Isn't this more or less training children to be Combat Medics?  

www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/health/gun-violence-stop-the-bleed-children-gupta/index.html

...

She spent the next 30 minutes teaching them how to stop a wound from bleeding out. The lesson is appropriately titled “Stop the Bleed.”

www.businessinsider.com/texas-lawmaker-lobbies-for-3rd-graders-get-aid-training-shootings-2023-5

A Texas lawmaker has proposed a bill to ensure that children as young as eight-years-old receive annual training to man bleeding control stations.



These stations are emergency first aid resources that can be used in times of tragedy, such as school shootings.



Representative Barbara Gervin-Hawkins — who has proposed the law — has said that since the mass school shooting at Robb Elementary shooting in Uvalde that killed 19 fourth graders and two teachers, children should receive this training to save lives, according to CBS Austin.

 

cool! NOT.  So now little Johnnie or little Suzie can deal with an extra trauma if their little friend bleeds out while the cops spend 74 minutes before deciding  to take on a shooter. No problem, at least we won't limit access to guns in any way shape or form . Those kiddos are flexible and will get over it. 

[Knee Deep in Water Chloe]

Couple thoughts—
I have only worked in one state, but here, first aid classes are often taught. Some would say it’s an important skill and necessary life knowledge. In secondary schools (grades 6-12) first aide courses along with certification are often part of required classes.

That said, I’m wondering if the rhetoric here is,
If you’re not going to do anything to stop school shootings, we should pass a law that has our 6yos capable of GSW care.

[Tiny]

Just think about the future... if kids across America get enough (and ever more age appropriate field medic training) in 10 or 15 years we will have a society where in any crowd of people many of them will know how to deal with/provide aide to the victims of mass shootings. Or maybe a land war in America.  The Prepper segment of Americans must be over the moon with joy.