Texas infant death rate increase

[happyhoix]

Nationally, the infant mortality rate went up 2%, but in Texas, it jumped 13%. 

www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/texas-abortion-ban-linked-rise-infant-newborn-deaths-rcna158375

At first it didn’t make sense, but the article says Texas passed a heartbeat law where women can’t get an abortion after a heartbeat is detectible, which is around 5 weeks, often before a women even realizes she’s pregnant. 

There is no allowance in the law for abnormalities in the fetus that make it unable to live post birth. 

Years ago a couple in my church had a baby with a genetic disease called Thirft’s disease. There is nothing that can be done to repair that. The baby died within a year, if I remember correctly. I remember it was heartbreaking, for that couple and for the church. (They hadn’t had any testing done, as nothing indicated any problems, so they didn’t know about the genetic mutation until birth). 

Coincidentally they interviewed a young lady on the news tonight who couldn’t afford to travel outside of Texas for an abortion. She found out her fetus would die at birth and had to carry it to term. It lived for four hours. She described what it was like to plan for a funeral while she was pregnant. Another woman had complications and had to wait until she was ‘ill’ enough for the doctors to justify an abortion, and the damage destroyed her ability to get pregnant again. She’ll have to use a surrogate. 

I hope other states contemplating a heartbeat law look at the Texas example and realize imposing it isn’t a magic wand that will save all the babies. Some can’t be saved. Others end in miscarriages that can kill their mothers, if they don’t get treatment. And usually, it’s the poorest women who bear the brunt of it. was that really what Texas wanted? 

[busymom]

It's never been about "life".  It's about the power to control other people.

[pulmonarymd]

Anti-abortion people DO NOT CARE. The point of the law is to “save” children. As long as they are born alive, that is enough. They do not care about any of the consequences of these infants dying, because it doesn’t affect them. Depression, PTSD, post-partum depression are for the weak of heart. The financial consequences are not their problems. The suffering of knowing that your infant has no chance of surviving, but the pregnancy has to continue doesn’t matter. This is the perfect example of the end justifying the means.

Just another example of the cruelty being the point.

[movingforward]

Honestly, I think almost everything that happens in Texas government these days is strictly for headlines. Our Governor has lost his mind (if he ever had one in the first place). Everything he does seems to be attention getting stunts.

At times I think Texas Republicans are getting scared because the legislators are going so far right, but they keep voting for these people because they have been raised to vote republican. They would rather die than vote for a Democrat and admit their side has become too looney for fruit loops.

[Tennesseer]

I posted the below in the Texas Abortion Case thread.  Some of it is kind of related to this thread.

New York Times article. Hopefully the map will work for posters who don't subscribe to the NYT.

171,000 Traveled for Abortions Last Year. See Where They Went.

More than 14,000 Texas patients crossed the border into New Mexico for an abortion last year. An additional 16,000 left Southern states bound for Illinois. And nearly 12,000 more traveled north from South Carolina and Georgia to North Carolina.

These were among the more than 171,000 patients who traveled for an abortion in 2023, new estimates show, demonstrating both the upheaval in access since the overturn of Roe v. Wade and the limits of state bans to stop the procedure. The data also highlights the unsettled nature of an issue that will test politicians up and down the ballot in November.

Out-of-state travel for abortions — either to have a procedure or obtain abortion pills — more than doubled in 2023 compared with 2019, and made up nearly a fifth of recorded abortions. On Thursday, the Supreme Court rejected a case that would have sharply curtailed access to medication abortion, allowing the pills to remain available to patients traveling from states with bans.

Rest of article here: 171,000 Traveled for Abortions Last Year. See Where They Went.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Jun 26, 2024 21:19:11 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I posted the below in the Texas Abortion Case thread.  Some of it is kind of related to this thread.

New York Times article. Hopefully the map will work for posters who don't subscribe to the NYT.

171,000 Traveled for Abortions Last Year. See Where They Went.

More than 14,000 Texas patients crossed the border into New Mexico for an abortion last year. An additional 16,000 left Southern states bound for Illinois. And nearly 12,000 more traveled north from South Carolina and Georgia to North Carolina.

These were among the more than 171,000 patients who traveled for an abortion in 2023, new estimates show, demonstrating both the upheaval in access since the overturn of Roe v. Wade and the limits of state bans to stop the procedure. The data also highlights the unsettled nature of an issue that will test politicians up and down the ballot in November.

Out-of-state travel for abortions — either to have a procedure or obtain abortion pills — more than doubled in 2023 compared with 2019, and made up nearly a fifth of recorded abortions. On Thursday, the Supreme Court rejected a case that would have sharply curtailed access to medication abortion, allowing the pills to remain available to patients traveling from states with bans.

Rest of article here: 171,000 Traveled for Abortions Last Year. See Where They Went.

So what this effectively does is that those who can travel, do so.  Travel is going to be dependent upon funds, so it's going to disproportionately affect the poor people more, those who can least afford to have a critically sick and dying baby, plan and pay for a funeral, and possibly cause harm to the mother.  

I saw the original article about the increase in TX infant deaths.  So now, counting an infant death is going to jack up with the infant mortality stats (which, from what I remember is a criteria for certain things as to how healthcare is rated in that country).  These are children who never should have been brought to term and born in the first place as their medical problems are incompatible with life. 

The other day I was at lunch and talking about this with my neighbor.  For me, this really isn't going to change my life.  My eggs have expired and I have no children.  However, I have 7 nieces and nephews who live in the US.  Luckily, my other 9 nieces and nephews live in Canada, where they are not subjected to the US's draconian laws on some books.  I am really concerned about those who do live in the US, and need to control their fertility/procreate under these conditions.  At this point, only 3/7 live in a state with no restrictions.  However, if any of those 4 needed help, there would be a plane ticket from Aunt Mich waiting for them at a check in counter and I'd help them however they needed to be helped.  

[thyme4change]

Jun 27, 2024 10:44:38 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Jun 26, 2024 21:19:11 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I posted the below in the Texas Abortion Case thread.  Some of it is kind of related to this thread.

New York Times article. Hopefully the map will work for posters who don't subscribe to the NYT.

171,000 Traveled for Abortions Last Year. See Where They Went.

More than 14,000 Texas patients crossed the border into New Mexico for an abortion last year. An additional 16,000 left Southern states bound for Illinois. And nearly 12,000 more traveled north from South Carolina and Georgia to North Carolina.

These were among the more than 171,000 patients who traveled for an abortion in 2023, new estimates show, demonstrating both the upheaval in access since the overturn of Roe v. Wade and the limits of state bans to stop the procedure. The data also highlights the unsettled nature of an issue that will test politicians up and down the ballot in November.

Out-of-state travel for abortions — either to have a procedure or obtain abortion pills — more than doubled in 2023 compared with 2019, and made up nearly a fifth of recorded abortions. On Thursday, the Supreme Court rejected a case that would have sharply curtailed access to medication abortion, allowing the pills to remain available to patients traveling from states with bans.

Rest of article here: 171,000 Traveled for Abortions Last Year. See Where They Went.

So what this effectively does is that those who can travel, do so.  Travel is going to be dependent upon funds, so it's going to disproportionately affect the poor people more, those who can least afford to have a critically sick and dying baby, plan and pay for a funeral, and possibly cause harm to the mother.  

I saw the original article about the increase in TX infant deaths.  So now, counting an infant death is going to jack up with the infant mortality stats (which, from what I remember is a criteria for certain things as to how healthcare is rated in that country).  These are children who never should have been brought to term and born in the first place as their medical problems are incompatible with life. 

The other day I was at lunch and talking about this with my neighbor.  For me, this really isn't going to change my life.  My eggs have expired and I have no children.  However, I have 7 nieces and nephews who live in the US.  Luckily, my other 9 nieces and nephews live in Canada, where they are not subjected to the US's draconian laws on some books.  I am really concerned about those who do live in the US, and need to control their fertility/procreate under these conditions.  At this point, only 3/7 live in a state with no restrictions.  However, if any of those 4 needed help, there would be a plane ticket from Aunt Mich waiting for them at a check in counter and I'd help them however they needed to be helped.  

When Roe was overturned and the pre-statehood AZ ban went into effect, my husband told both our kids that we would help anyone they knew that needed help. It was probably a little low risk on our part because their friends have family with means and likely a similar attitude to ours - so they would probably get help closer to home. But we aren’t out of the woods yet. The offer will be viable for another 5 - 10 years.