MAGA goes after Dolly Parton

[happyhoix]

They don’t like her ‘love is love’ acceptance of gays. 

www.mediaite.com/entertainment/we-ride-at-dawn-the-federalist-came-for-dolly-parton-now-her-fans-are-coming-for-them/

According to the far right Federalist, good Christians have to call out sinners like the gays and trans folks. Accepting them as they are is not godly. 

Granted I’m not an expert Christian, but my understanding only God and Jesus are supposed to judge people. The rest of us are just supposed to love one another.  Pretty sure that ‘love one another’ is one of the more important points in the Bible. 

Not one that most of the evangelicals seem to be familiar with, though. 

Not a good idea to fuck with Dolly, though. If you polled everyone in the US, she’s be up in the top ten most loved celebrities. Never a bad word to say about anyone - which I guess is the problem for the far righties. 

[djAdvocate]

they won't stop at Dolly Parton. they want total dominion.

[saveinla]

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[Tennesseer]

MAGA:  Dumb and Dumber Part Quarante-Cinq.

[Pink Cashmere]

Jun 8, 2024 15:04:46 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

They don’t like her ‘love is love’ acceptance of gays. 

www.mediaite.com/entertainment/we-ride-at-dawn-the-federalist-came-for-dolly-parton-now-her-fans-are-coming-for-them/

According to the far right Federalist, good Christians have to call out sinners like the gays and trans folks. Accepting them as they are is not godly. 

Granted I’m not an expert Christian, but my understanding only God and Jesus are supposed to judge people. The rest of us are just supposed to love one another.  Pretty sure that ‘love one another’ is one of the more important points in the Bible. 

Not one that most of the evangelicals seem to be familiar with, though. 

Not a good idea to fuck with Dolly, though. If you polled everyone in the US, she’s be up in the top ten most loved celebrities. Never a bad word to say about anyone - which I guess is the problem for the far righties. 

I’m not a fan of Dolly Parton’s music, but I have a lot of respect for her as a person.

She got on my radar when my DGS was born, and I learned about her program where babies and young children can receive free books in the mail every month (I think it’s every month). I had DD sign up, and sure enough, the books came regularly.

I have paid a little more attention to her since then, and everything I’ve seen and read about her since then, confirmed my thoughts that she is good people.

The MAGA folks seem to have issues with anybody that is a genuinely good person, since it seems to me that they prefer, ignorant, -ist type people.

[happyhoix]

Jun 8, 2024 16:44:10 GMT -5 Pink Cashmere said:

Jun 8, 2024 15:04:46 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

They don’t like her ‘love is love’ acceptance of gays. 

www.mediaite.com/entertainment/we-ride-at-dawn-the-federalist-came-for-dolly-parton-now-her-fans-are-coming-for-them/

According to the far right Federalist, good Christians have to call out sinners like the gays and trans folks. Accepting them as they are is not godly. 

Granted I’m not an expert Christian, but my understanding only God and Jesus are supposed to judge people. The rest of us are just supposed to love one another.  Pretty sure that ‘love one another’ is one of the more important points in the Bible. 

Not one that most of the evangelicals seem to be familiar with, though. 

Not a good idea to fuck with Dolly, though. If you polled everyone in the US, she’s be up in the top ten most loved celebrities. Never a bad word to say about anyone - which I guess is the problem for the far righties. 

I’m not a fan of Dolly Parton’s music, but I have a lot of respect for her as a person.

She got on my radar when my DGS was born, and I learned about her program where babies and young children can receive free books in the mail every month (I think it’s every month). I had DD sign up, and sure enough, the books came regularly.

I have paid a little more attention to her since then, and everything I’ve seen and read about her since then, confirmed my thoughts that she is good people.

The MAGA folks seem to have issues with anybody that is a genuinely good person, since it seems to me that they prefer, ignorant, -ist type people.

Yeah her Dollywood Foundation has done a TON of great stuff, including donating a million dollars for a COVID ward. And she has always been kind to gays, drag queens - I suppose she could be a horrible person IRL but she sure seems like a generous, humble and gracious famous person - and there aren’t many of those. 

But she won’t denigrate the ‘deviants’ so she’s not ‘really’ Christian. 

[Opti]

Jun 8, 2024 15:04:46 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

They don’t like her ‘love is love’ acceptance of gays. 

www.mediaite.com/entertainment/we-ride-at-dawn-the-federalist-came-for-dolly-parton-now-her-fans-are-coming-for-them/

According to the far right Federalist, good Christians have to call out sinners like the gays and trans folks. Accepting them as they are is not godly. 

Granted I’m not an expert Christian, but my understanding only God and Jesus are supposed to judge people. The rest of us are just supposed to love one another.  Pretty sure that ‘love one another’ is one of the more important points in the Bible. 

Not one that most of the evangelicals seem to be familiar with, though. 

Not a good idea to fuck with Dolly, though. If you polled everyone in the US, she’s be up in the top ten most loved celebrities. Never a bad word to say about anyone - which I guess is the problem for the far righties. 

Well the author tipped her hand, or revealed her true intention -


She also took issue with Parton not wanting to judge others, calling it a “get out of jail free card”:

This, however, is her “get out of jail free” card. Who’s going to argue with it? She’s not alone in this avoidance tactic. Christians often use the “let him who is without sin cast the first stone” Scripture verse to sidestep addressing sin directly.

I think in the end its just people who want to feel better than others by picking out sins they think should be punished in others. Its the holier than thou thing IMO. I think some of the Bible is really about society and accepted practices back then because one of the stories about male on male love takes a dark turn. The host would rather have his daughters raped than allow "that" in his home by the male visitors. Why he didn't just send them on their way remains a mystery to me, but I have seen this as a Man thing from that time not a God thing.

[billisonboard]

Anne Lamott — 'You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.'

[Pink Cashmere]

Jun 8, 2024 17:21:10 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Anne Lamott — 'You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.'

Yeah, because as far as I know…. and I admit that I am not a Bible scholar or even a very good Christian although I claim to be one…… we are supposed to hate the sin and not the sinner. 

[resolution]

[happyhoix]

Jun 8, 2024 17:25:51 GMT -5 Pink Cashmere said:

Jun 8, 2024 17:21:10 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Anne Lamott — 'You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.'

Yeah, because as far as I know…. and I admit that I am not a Bible scholar or even a very good Christian although I claim to be one…… we are supposed to hate the sin and not the sinner. 

Yes. And you’re supposed to not judge anyone (that’s God’s job). And you’re supposed to love your neighbors. Not just the neighbors that are acceptable to you. Sit down with the whores and the poor. Share the fishes and loaves. 

Doesn’t really fit the ‘punish the poors/banish the immigrants/destroy the gays and trans/subdue the women’ MAGA rules. 

Maybe they should have picked a MAGA King who actually goes to church, if they wanted a Christ based political party. One that admits he’s a sinner, and who doesn’t brag about grabbing women by their private parts. There I go judging! That’s what proves I’m a sinner, too. 

[resolution]

Jun 8, 2024 15:04:46 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

They don’t like her ‘love is love’ acceptance of gays. 

www.mediaite.com/entertainment/we-ride-at-dawn-the-federalist-came-for-dolly-parton-now-her-fans-are-coming-for-them/

According to the far right Federalist, good Christians have to call out sinners like the gays and trans folks. Accepting them as they are is not godly. 

Granted I’m not an expert Christian, but my understanding only God and Jesus are supposed to judge people. The rest of us are just supposed to love one another.  Pretty sure that ‘love one another’ is one of the more important points in the Bible. 

It goes along with the ministers getting complaints that the Sermon on the Mount is too weak and leftist.

[Opti]

Jun 8, 2024 19:55:51 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Jun 8, 2024 17:25:51 GMT -5 Pink Cashmere said:

Yeah, because as far as I know…. and I admit that I am not a Bible scholar or even a very good Christian although I claim to be one…… we are supposed to hate the sin and not the sinner. 

Yes. And you’re supposed to not judge anyone (that’s God’s job). And you’re supposed to love your neighbors. Not just the neighbors that are acceptable to you. Sit down with the whores and the poor. Share the fishes and loaves. 

Doesn’t really fit the ‘punish the poors/banish the immigrants/destroy the gays and trans/subdue the women’ MAGA rules. 

Maybe they should have picked a MAGA King who actually goes to church, if they wanted a Christ based political party. One that admits he’s a sinner, and who doesn’t brag about grabbing women by their private parts. There I go judging! That’s what proves I’m a sinner, too. 

They don't want a Christ based anything IMO. Its been eye opening to me that huge swaths of the country have churches that are more focused on punishment and control and less on forgiveness and acceptance. And any church can go off the rails with the wrong minister. 

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

This is up there with Cruz calling out Big Bird and Seasme Street for being woke because BB got the covid shot.

Tell me you've never watched Seasme Street without telling me you've never watched it.

Same here with Dolly.

I don't always listen to her music but she is a fantastic person. She has more love of God in her right toe than these clowns have in their entire body.

Now I love Dolly even more!

[happyhoix]

Jun 8, 2024 21:04:37 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jun 8, 2024 19:55:51 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Yes. And you’re supposed to not judge anyone (that’s God’s job). And you’re supposed to love your neighbors. Not just the neighbors that are acceptable to you. Sit down with the whores and the poor. Share the fishes and loaves. 

Doesn’t really fit the ‘punish the poors/banish the immigrants/destroy the gays and trans/subdue the women’ MAGA rules. 

Maybe they should have picked a MAGA King who actually goes to church, if they wanted a Christ based political party. One that admits he’s a sinner, and who doesn’t brag about grabbing women by their private parts. There I go judging! That’s what proves I’m a sinner, too. 

They don't want a Christ based anything IMO. Its been eye opening to me that huge swaths of the country have churches that are more focused on punishment and control and less on forgiveness and acceptance. And any church can go off the rails with the wrong minister. 

Saw a photo of one church sign this week where they had suspended an upside down US flag over the church sign.

I believe they can get their tax free status revoked for that kind of shit.

[Tennesseer]

Too little. Too late.

Federalist writer Ericka Andersen criticized Parton for her nonjudgmental approach to life and her claim that she loves everyone — including members of the LGBTQ community, whom she has supported in interviews.

Andersen argued that if Parton is a Christian, as she proclaims, she should call out homosexuality as a sin. “Parton’s version of love, which includes condoning immoral sexual behavior (‘be who you are,’ she’s said), is unaligned with God’s vision for humanity,” Andersen wrote.

But Andersen told Yahoo Entertainment on Saturday that the widespread backlash made her realize she shouldn’t have used Parton to press her argument.

"I regret using Dolly as the example for the point I was making in the article,” she said. “As I wrote in the piece, I love her and think she does some incredible things for the world. We all make poor choices in how to frame things sometimes. This was one of those moments for me! Dolly is one of the few people who is beloved by all and who loves all. The world is lucky to have her."

Dolly Parton fans rush to her defense after conservative magazine attacks her support for LGBTQ rights

[mollyc]

So basically the writer doesn’t believe strongly enough in her point to stand up to criticism. Noted.

She’ll just check how popular someone is next time before using them as an example. I mean seriously, Dolly Parton is either right or she’s wrong in this woman’s view. Being more popular than the writer shouldn’t matter if the writer really believes what she wrote.

She was just pandering to her regular audience, I think, and stepped in a pile of shit.

[billisonboard]

Jun 9, 2024 11:55:48 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Too little. Too late.

Federalist writer Ericka Andersen criticized Parton for her nonjudgmental approach to life and her claim that she loves everyone — including members of the LGBTQ community, whom she has supported in interviews.

Andersen argued that if Parton is a Christian, as she proclaims, she should call out homosexuality as a sin. “Parton’s version of love, which includes condoning immoral sexual behavior (‘be who you are,’ she’s said), is unaligned with God’s vision for humanity,” Andersen wrote.

But Andersen told Yahoo Entertainment on Saturday that the widespread backlash made her realize she shouldn’t have used Parton to press her argument.

"I regret using Dolly as the example for the point I was making in the article,” she said. “As I wrote in the piece, I love her and think she does some incredible things for the world. We all make poor choices in how to frame things sometimes. This was one of those moments for me! Dolly is one of the few people who is beloved by all and who loves all. The world is lucky to have her."

Dolly Parton fans rush to her defense after conservative magazine attacks her support for LGBTQ rights

Anderson was spot on using Dolly Parton as an excellent example for her argument, not wrong at all. Her argument is wrong. The fact Parton serves it so well helps prove that fact.

[NastyWoman]

Maybe, just maybe, the writer is sh*tting her pants after someone wrote on Twitter "They came after Dolly. We ride at dawn" 

[NancysSummerSip]

Oh, we ride all right. In big tour buses, wearing spike heels and towering Dolly wigs. And carrying glitter-covered clubs.

[Spellbound454]

She's a singer not a politician or a preacher.

She turns up at her shows, sings her songs, delights her audience and goes home.

That's her job, she doesn't have to, or want to be anything else.



We love her over here and being sweet and affable is part of her appeal.

[djAdvocate]

Jun 9, 2024 12:13:21 GMT -5 mollyc said:

So basically the writer doesn’t believe strongly enough in her point to stand up to criticism. Noted.

She’ll just check how popular someone is next time before using them as an example. I mean seriously, Dolly Parton is either right or she’s wrong in this woman’s view. Being more popular than the writer shouldn’t matter if the writer really believes what she wrote.

She was just pandering to her regular audience, I think, and stepped in a pile of shit.

on the contrary.  if she is RIGHT, then it should make her MORE committed.

after all, popular people have a big podium, and are thus VASTLY more dangerous than hacks like me.  this is WHY Trump is dangerous.  he has a big podium.  he can instantly mobilize millions.

[billisonboard]

Jun 10, 2024 1:39:20 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

She's a singer not a politician or a preacher.

She turns up at her shows, sings her songs, delights her audience and goes home.

That's her job, she doesn't have to, or want to be anything else.



We love her over here and being sweet and affable is part of her appeal.

Certainly agree she doesn't "have to" be anything. I do think she "wants to be" a person who puts some of the attention she gets and the large amounts of money she earns towards making the world a better place. I know I am more than just my job. YMMV.

[Tiny]

I find it weird that God would praise and honor and be pleased with people who make/force other people to be less sinful (or better Christians or whatever)  before they work on making themselves less sinful. 
  

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

The whole thing about Jesus and his sermon about glass houses tends to be one of those passages that people like Ericka Andersen tend to like to skip over because it doesn't fit their world view.

[billisonboard]

My observations from the outside has lead me to see Christianity in general to be an al a carte menu.

[happyhoix]

Jun 10, 2024 15:18:36 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

My observations from the outside has lead me to see Christianity in general to be an al a carte menu.

Yes, and it’s not static.

When I was little, you couldn’t marry someone from a different race. Then it was sinful to get divorced, before everyone (including MTG) got divorced. Then it was you can’t be gay, and now it’s gay marriage and trans people who need to be publicly shamed.

[Opti]

Jun 10, 2024 15:18:36 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

My observations from the outside has lead me to see Christianity in general to be an al a carte menu.

I think its weird if anyone thinks "Christianity" is unified. There are so many branches from Catholics, Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians, etc. Plus all the churches who give themselves special names from Joel Osteen's church to many others. Those you have to look into to find out if they are more bible based or more non-denominational in slant. I find it very confusing. 

I don't think of it as al a carte because depending on what branch you are in, the menu has been decided on. To me its like ignoring culture and expecting Alabama and New York state to be the same because they are both in the US. MO.

[Opti]

Jun 10, 2024 15:48:40 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Jun 10, 2024 15:18:36 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

My observations from the outside has lead me to see Christianity in general to be an al a carte menu.

Yes, and it’s not static.

When I was little, you couldn’t marry someone from a different race. Then it was sinful to get divorced, before everyone (including MTG) got divorced. Then it was you can’t be gay, and now it’s gay marriage and trans people who need to be publicly shamed.

Culture and society definitely shape things. I think depending on what church you are in, some of that still holds. Do Catholics still do the annulment thing of getting official approval to not call a failed marriage a divorce? I think in many being gay still is not acceptable, its just worse if marriage becomes part of what is allowed. 

[djAdvocate]

Jun 10, 2024 15:48:40 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Jun 10, 2024 15:18:36 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

My observations from the outside has lead me to see Christianity in general to be an al a carte menu.

Yes, and it’s not static.

When I was little, you couldn’t marry someone from a different race. Then it was sinful to get divorced, before everyone (including MTG) got divorced. Then it was you can’t be gay, and now it’s gay marriage and trans people who need to be publicly shamed.

it always seems like they are wagging their fingers at the least threatening of us.