Ohio presidential ballot

[happyhoix]

They’re claiming Biden may not be on it?

apnews.com/article/2024-election-ohio-ballot-biden-dbed6f0c5ec75d1aa7c7ef2ca81657fa

As JD Vance says, that would have undercut the votes for down ballot candidates. Dumb.

Ohio GOO needs to gerrymander a super majority in the State government so the completely quash the Dem voters like Tennessee and Georgia. 😒

[billisonboard]

Political parties need to be attentive to state laws and schedule their national conferences accordingly. 

[pulmonarymd]

Although I agree with needing to be aware of deadlines;

Exceptions have been made in the past
Imagine the MAGA uproar if the situation was reversed.

If we are going to hew to the deadlines, both parties can just have their conventions at the same time in July. But then they would have to compete for the headlines

[thyme4change]

Great - call all the delegates, go into a big room - call the vote. And then have a convention-like rally in August. No law says it has to be televised or have 8 million speeches or whatever. Do just enough to get headlines - drown out whatever stupid thing Trump does for a couple days. And then drown him out again in August.

Kinda like when people get legally married and then a couple months later have a big wedding at a church and a reception, and everyone celebrates.

Don’t play with these fucking idiots. They just want to see the Democrats beg. Show strength by playing by their rules.

[billisonboard]

May 25, 2024 11:25:16 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Great - call all the delegates, go into a big room - call the vote. And then have a convention-like rally in August. No law says it has to be televised or have 8 million speeches or whatever. Do just enough to get headlines - drown out whatever stupid thing Trump does for a couple days. And then drown him out again in August.

Kinda like when people get legally married and then a couple months later have a big wedding at a church and a reception, and everyone celebrates.

Don’t play with these fucking idiots. They just want to see the Democrats beg. Show strength by playing by their rules.

Reality check: 4,672 delegates from each state, territory, and all over the world. Most with jobs from which they have scheduled vacation time to attend the convention in August.

[happyhoix]

May 25, 2024 10:21:12 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Political parties need to be attentive to state laws and schedule their national conferences accordingly. 

Ohio moved their deadline up - may be they should be paying attention to when the parties set their conventions?

As you point out, conventions are hard to move.

[billisonboard]

May 25, 2024 17:39:17 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

May 25, 2024 10:21:12 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Political parties need to be attentive to state laws and schedule their national conferences accordingly. 

Ohio moved their deadline up - may be they should be paying attention to when the parties set their conventions?

As you point out, conventions are hard to move.

First, from the link in the OP:

Since Ohio changed its certification deadline from 60 to 90 days ahead of the general election, state lawmakers have had to adjust the requirement twice, in 2012 and 2020, to accommodate candidates of both parties.

So it has been the law for at least 12 years

Second, state election officials, who are the ones who have to ensure that every precinct in the state has 100% accurate ballots set up and printed in time for them to be mailed out to deployed troops early enough for them to be received and returned by election day, should be the decision makers - not party functionaries

[happyhoix]

May 25, 2024 20:17:38 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

May 25, 2024 17:39:17 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Ohio moved their deadline up - may be they should be paying attention to when the parties set their conventions?

As you point out, conventions are hard to move.

First, from the link in the OP:

Since Ohio changed its certification deadline from 60 to 90 days ahead of the general election, state lawmakers have had to adjust the requirement twice, in 2012 and 2020, to accommodate candidates of both parties.

So it has been the law for at least 12 years

Second, state election officials, who are the ones who have to ensure that every precinct in the state has 100% accurate ballots set up and printed in time for them to be mailed out to deployed troops early enough for them to be received and returned by election day, should be the decision makers - not party functionaries

they changed it 12 years ago and already had to adjust the requirement twice - so they know its a problem yet haven’t fixed it. 

[billisonboard]

May 25, 2024 21:37:12 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

May 25, 2024 20:17:38 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

First, from the link in the OP:

Since Ohio changed its certification deadline from 60 to 90 days ahead of the general election, state lawmakers have had to adjust the requirement twice, in 2012 and 2020, to accommodate candidates of both parties.

So it has been the law for at least 12 years

Second, state election officials, who are the ones who have to ensure that every precinct in the state has 100% accurate ballots set up and printed in time for them to be mailed out to deployed troops early enough for them to be received and returned by election day, should be the decision makers - not party functionaries

they changed it 12 years ago and already had to adjust the requirement twice - so they know its a problem yet haven’t fixed it. 

How many elections have been held in Ohio over the past dozen years? 3 presidential but how many others that they didn't have to "fix" anything? Why should the states accommodate national political parties? The parties know it is a problem. Why don't they fix it.

[thyme4change]

[Source] billisonboard said:

May 25, 2024 11:25:16 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Great - call all the delegates, go into a big room - call the vote. And then have a convention-like rally in August. No law says it has to be televised or have 8 million speeches or whatever. Do just enough to get headlines - drown out whatever stupid thing Trump does for a couple days. And then drown him out again in August.

Kinda like when people get legally married and then a couple months later have a big wedding at a church and a reception, and everyone celebrates.

Don’t play with these fucking idiots. They just want to see the Democrats beg. Show strength by playing by their rules.

Reality check: 4,672 delegates from each state, territory, and all over the world. Most with jobs from which they have scheduled vacation time to attend the convention in August.

Airplanes - Saturday, Sunday, alternate delegates, and the fact that you don’t need 100% of delegates to win.

“From all over the world” - I would think they should be US citizens and residents to pick - so those that happen to be in another part of the world for whatever reason can make a choice. If it is important, it can happen. They have 6 weeks to arrange it.

[billisonboard]

May 26, 2024 13:21:49 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

[Source] billisonboard said:

Reality check: 4,672 delegates from each state, territory, and all over the world. Most with jobs from which they have scheduled vacation time to attend the convention in August.

Airplanes - Saturday, Sunday, alternate delegates, and the fact that you don’t need 100% of delegates to win.

“From all over the world” - I would think they should be US citizens and residents to pick - so those that happen to be in another part of the world for whatever reason can make a choice. If it is important, it can happen. They have 6 weeks to arrange it.

I did research before I included "from ... all over the world."

The delegates are individuals chosen to represent their state, territory, or Democrats Abroad at the convention. link

And yes, of course all things are doable. I was just pointing out the reality of what it would take just for the delegate gathering side of things. Not sure about all the bylaw and legal hurdles that would need to be cleared also.

[billisonboard]

The Democratic National Committee plans to hold a "virtual roll call" to nominate President Joe Biden before the party's August convention — a tactic meant to spare Biden the increasing danger of being left off Ohio's general election ballot.

www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/democrats-virtual-nomination-biden-ohio-ballot-rcna154339

[thyme4change]

May 28, 2024 13:22:44 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

The Democratic National Committee plans to hold a "virtual roll call" to nominate President Joe Biden before the party's August convention — a tactic meant to spare Biden the increasing danger of being left off Ohio's general election ballot.

www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/democrats-virtual-nomination-biden-ohio-ballot-rcna154339

Where there is a will, there is a way.

[billisonboard]

May 28, 2024 20:40:14 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

May 28, 2024 13:22:44 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

The Democratic National Committee plans to hold a "virtual roll call" to nominate President Joe Biden before the party's August convention — a tactic meant to spare Biden the increasing danger of being left off Ohio's general election ballot.

www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/democrats-virtual-nomination-biden-ohio-ballot-rcna154339

Where there is a will, there is a way.

A very practical solution.