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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 26, 2023 9:32:27 GMT -5
I'll have to find the title but I just read a book about Flat earthers.
People who already believe in conspiracy theories are more prone to believe it because if the government lied about X what else are they lying about?
It's also becoming a thinly veiled disguise for hate groups who have found an easily manipulated and highly suggestive audience.
Things like Holocaust denial are showing up hand in hand with things like flat earth.
Anti vaccine is another one.
It was a fascinating book and a truly frightening book. We're in freaking trouble as a society if we don't start slapping this shit down. They aren't fringe looney tunes anymore they are elected officials.
ETA: Found it it's called Off The Edge by Kelly Weill
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Post by djAdvocate on May 26, 2023 10:49:31 GMT -5
I find it very odd that Ms. Taylor is has never encountered the weirdness of time zones in daily governmental work. Surely, she has had a conference call or video conference or an email from someone in the UK, Europe or Africa or the Pacific Rim. I've been in video conferences with people in London, Sydney and Hong Kong and it's pretty gosh darn obvious that we are in different time zones I'm sitting in early morning daylight and the other people are late afternoon or LATE evening and OH MY GOD!!! We're all talking to one another in real time! How does a flat earther explain that? That's just got to blow a flat earthers mind... My goodness! Ms. Taylor's everyday life must be filled with magic and mystery. She must just be so fearful at night, in the dark, when it's quiet. Who knows what horrors are lurking and waiting to get her. Cause if the earth is flat - then I'm pretty sure that means the Eldrich horrors are just waiting to awaken... "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" I'm pretty sure she can't prove Cthulhu DOESN"T exist... yep. you got that right, too. the fact that we are not all in one time zone (or at most two if there were two sides to FlatEarth) requires some explaining, too.
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Post by teen persuasion on May 26, 2023 10:50:44 GMT -5
She needs to see this map I saw on Twitter yesterday: World map according to fish It's all about your perspective.
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Post by empress of self-improvement on May 26, 2023 20:43:12 GMT -5
I wanted to visit someplace spooky for Halloween this year, and thought of Savannah. But I guess I will just go to Salem like everyone else does. lol godspeed. that place is a shit show for all of October. No arguments here!
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Post by thyme4change on May 27, 2023 11:12:27 GMT -5
Consider AZ for Halloween- Jerome and Bisbee are both haunted non-Halloween, and apparently both embrace those ghosts on Halloween 🎃 👻
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Post by kadee79 on Jun 3, 2023 13:16:42 GMT -5
godspeed. that place is a shit show for all of October. I've heard, thats why I wanted to go somewhere else, but Savannah is probably pretty busy in October as well. Same with New Orleans. I guess Ill have to keep searching for a place to celebrate. Halloween is my major holiday! You could always try Monticello, Ill. It's between Decatur & Champaign. They have a train ride there at Halloween that will scare the pants off ya! It's a small town, so it's fun there.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 3, 2023 17:29:47 GMT -5
If the world is flat, what's holding it up? Turtles? It's infinite regress? It's turtles all the way down?
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 4, 2023 12:23:28 GMT -5
Here's a head scratcher. If the world is flat, what is keeping the oceans from flowing out? Is there a great barrier aroud the earth, keeping the water in? How is the water contianed? I'd like to meet a flat-earther in person. I have a few questions.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 4, 2023 12:33:42 GMT -5
Here's a head scratcher. If the world is flat, what is keeping the oceans from flowing out? Is there a great barrier aroud the earth, keeping the water in? How is the water contianed? I'd like to meet a flat-earther in person. I have a few questions. There is a huge drain at the edge of the world. The water goes into the drain and then stored in underground aquifers. The stored water underground then surfaces through geysers and refills the oceans. Fact.
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Post by hurley1980 on Jun 5, 2023 12:33:01 GMT -5
I've heard, thats why I wanted to go somewhere else, but Savannah is probably pretty busy in October as well. Same with New Orleans. I guess Ill have to keep searching for a place to celebrate. Halloween is my major holiday! You could always try Monticello, Ill. It's between Decatur & Champaign. They have a train ride there at Halloween that will scare the pants off ya! It's a small town, so it's fun there. I will keep it in mind for next year. I decided to do Santa Fe, NM this year, already have my trip booked!
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Post by tallguy on Jun 5, 2023 12:58:06 GMT -5
Santa Fe is nice. GF and I did ten days there a few years ago.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 5, 2023 17:35:49 GMT -5
You could always try Monticello, Ill. It's between Decatur & Champaign. They have a train ride there at Halloween that will scare the pants off ya! It's a small town, so it's fun there. I will keep it in mind for next year. I decided to do Santa Fe, NM this year, already have my trip booked! If you ever find yourself in Taos, New Mexico around Christmas time, make sure you visit the Taos Pueblo for their Christmas Eve services. Services in the pueblo's church are private for poeblo residents but the pueblo is open to the public all evening. After church services are over, a statue of the Virgin Mary and baby Jesus are paraded around the pueblo. Aromatic bonfires and good will to others are abundant. It was a memorable visit for me.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Jun 6, 2023 7:39:52 GMT -5
OMG. The Flerfers and moon landing deniers are driving me absolutely nuts. They are all over Facebook astronomy and NASA pages which pop up all the time on my feed to torment me. At first it was funny, now it's just getting disturbing. There are way the F too many of them! As to the edge, there's an ice wall for all of you not up on this. I don't know why nobody has pictures of the ice wall, but it's apparently out there. Most are far-right religious people as well. How they can believe in an invisible man in the sky that runs everything but struggle with the existence of satellites (while posting on their GPS enabled cell phones) boggles me.
My kids think they're hilarious, but I keep thinking about how they're voting and breeding. This is Carrot's favorite shirt.
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Post by swamp on Jun 6, 2023 13:22:44 GMT -5
that shirt is awesome.
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Post by Tiny on Jun 6, 2023 13:48:20 GMT -5
Think of all the flat planets in our solar system we CAN"T SEE because their flat edge is what's visible and so therefore we can't see them (with the naked eye- like we can see Mars and Venus) or with a telescope (we haven't found any yet - we've only found planets and moons where their flat side is towards the earth). I would think if we found a flat planet, we would have sent a probe to examine it and just think of the news/media coverage of it!
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Jun 6, 2023 14:33:15 GMT -5
I wish more of them would be as committed to proving the earth is flat by launching themselves off the earth in a rocket like Mike Hughes did instead of just spewing conspiracy theories with absolutely nothing to back it up.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 6, 2023 14:47:19 GMT -5
What's the fun in that. Spewing nonsense seems to be what they want to do. Aliens coming to earth would really wonder if there is intelligent life on this planet seeing as to what we have done.
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Post by mollyc on Jun 6, 2023 14:47:50 GMT -5
Flat earthers have so many videos on YouTube where they prove the earth is a globe and they decide it’s bad equipment Nothing is going to cut into their fantasy.
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Post by movingforward on Jun 6, 2023 15:35:32 GMT -5
I'm trying to figure out how these people manage to get up each morning and make it through the day. Being that damn stupid must be a living hell.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Jun 6, 2023 15:58:41 GMT -5
I had asked one to show me a picture of the ice wall and he said he had a bunch of them, so he comes back with a pic that is obviously the Antarctic ice wall and when I pointed that out, this is what I got. I mean where do you even start?!?
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 6, 2023 16:06:50 GMT -5
What's the fun in that. Spewing nonsense seems to be what they want to do. Aliens coming to earth would really wonder if there is intelligent life on this planet seeing as to what we have done. Are you kidding? Aliens aren't coming down here. Aliens lock the windows when they fly past Earth.
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Post by azucena on Jun 6, 2023 16:08:51 GMT -5
Wowza, that makes my head hurt. Must have been some bill for all those buoys.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 6, 2023 16:45:36 GMT -5
What's the fun in that. Spewing nonsense seems to be what they want to do. Aliens coming to earth would really wonder if there is intelligent life on this planet seeing as to what we have done. Are you kidding? Aliens aren't coming down here. Aliens lock the windows when they fly past Earth. Aliens have visited us several times. Watch the video. Fact! Ignore the source.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 6, 2023 16:50:06 GMT -5
What's the fun in that. Spewing nonsense seems to be what they want to do. Aliens coming to earth would really wonder if there is intelligent life on this planet seeing as to what we have done. i can't figure out if they are trolling us or if they actually believe that crap.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 6, 2023 16:53:06 GMT -5
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 6, 2023 17:10:54 GMT -5
What's the fun in that. Spewing nonsense seems to be what they want to do. Aliens coming to earth would really wonder if there is intelligent life on this planet seeing as to what we have done. i can't figure out if they are trolling us or if they actually believe that crap. Given the discussions I have had with patients, scientific illiteracy is rampant. There is no doubt they believe this stuff. And the more you try to show them they are wrong, the more entrenched they become
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Post by NastyWoman on Jun 6, 2023 17:12:45 GMT -5
Wowza, that makes my head hurt. Must have been some bill for all those buoys. Hah! What else do you think could have happened to Malaysian Airlines flight 370. They went past a buoy! I must say that the explanation was a little weak by not throwing in that mystery as "proof" of the flat earth theory. If you do something it is worth doing it well
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 6, 2023 18:55:31 GMT -5
i can't figure out if they are trolling us or if they actually believe that crap. Given the discussions I have had with patients, scientific illiteracy is rampant. There is no doubt they believe this stuff. And the more you try to show them they are wrong, the more entrenched they become i am not sure that i will be able to laugh at the Amp That Goes To 11 gag again.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Jun 6, 2023 19:03:52 GMT -5
He's on it. " hmmmm. I need to compare the pics with a legitimate round map of the earth. One thing the government is good at, is lying. Maps of the world over time, have been manipulated, to eventually exclude lands that once were on the maps. Whole civilizations were deleted. My guess is, that there are huge areas of land, way out in restricted areas of the Pacific. Once I can compare the maps, I'll let you know what I think."
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 6, 2023 19:10:03 GMT -5
He's on it. " hmmmm. I need to compare the pics with a legitimate round map of the earth. One thing the government is good at, is lying. Maps of the world over time, have been manipulated, to eventually exclude lands that once were on the maps. Whole civilizations were deleted. My guess is, that there are huge areas of land, way out in restricted areas of the Pacific. Once I can compare the maps, I'll let you know what I think." how about i pay for a little plane ride? one way, of course.
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