Jerry Springer dies at 79

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Longtime TV personality Jerry Springer, who helped pioneer the genre of confrontational daytime television, died on Thursday, his representative said.


“The Jerry Springer Show” ran between 1991 and 2018 and was known for its profanity-prone guests who often had to be restrained by on-set security guards as audience members wildly cheered, "Jerry, Jerry, Jerry!"

[mollyanna58]

who helped pioneer the genre of confrontational daytime television


Not something that led to the betterment of mankind.

[Tennesseer]

Apr 27, 2023 21:57:27 GMT -5 mollyanna58 said:

who helped pioneer the genre of confrontational daytime television


Not something that led to the betterment of mankind.

Brought out the worst in 'us'.

[Opti]

Apr 27, 2023 22:14:01 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Apr 27, 2023 21:57:27 GMT -5 mollyanna58 said:

who helped pioneer the genre of confrontational daytime television


Not something that led to the betterment of mankind.

Brought out the worst in 'us'.

Until Tucker?

Jerry Springer was very interesting, but the good thing is he never inspired political discontent, but did definitely inspire relationship dysfunction to get on TV. 

[Tennesseer]

Apr 27, 2023 23:21:06 GMT -5 Opti said:

Apr 27, 2023 22:14:01 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Brought out the worst in 'us'.

Until Tucker?

Jerry Springer was very interesting, but the good thing is he never inspired political discontent, but did definitely inspire relationship dysfunction to get on TV. 

tucker brought out the abusive verbiage. But Springer's show had the abusive verbiage and the physical fighting over the most trashy reasons.

[Opti]

Apr 28, 2023 10:33:16 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Apr 27, 2023 23:21:06 GMT -5 Opti said:

Until Tucker?

Jerry Springer was very interesting, but the good thing is he never inspired political discontent, but did definitely inspire relationship dysfunction to get on TV. 

tucker brought out the abusive verbiage. But Springer's show had the abusive verbiage and the physical fighting over the most trashy reasons.

Correct. But no one died. Everyone had to sign waivers and agree to come on the show. They probably had expenses paid to get there and back home.

Meanwhile, Tucker has become a voice to people who were certain they were being taken advantage of and are willing to storm the Capitol or shoot at a worker in a pizza place, just because they heard and believed BS.

[Opti]

Also, without Jerry Springer there would be no Steve Wilkos show. It is somewhere between Maury and Jerry Springer in tone. Steve decided his mission was to help kids and moms and non abusive dads. His show has helped put some child predators away legally.


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“Without Jerry, I wouldn’t have my wife, I wouldn’t have my children," he added at the time. "By being on his show, that obviously changed my life. Without Jerry, I would probably still be pushing a Chicago squad [car] around the streets!”

Wilkos, who began his stint on the program in 1994, also guest-hosted the top-rated show and, in later seasons, could be seen counseling its rowdy guests. The Chicago-bred TV personality then left "Springer" at the end of its 2006-07 season to host "The Steve Wilkos Show," which has been renewed for a 17th season and is currently on hiatus until the summer.



“To be honest, the first year I hated doing my show. I wanted to go back on ‘Springer.’ Was I grateful for the opportunity? Yes, but that existence of hoping to be picked up for the next season was brutal,” Wilkos told the Chicago Sun-Times in 2014. "Those first couple of years, you’re so busy trying to keep the show on the air, you don’t get to enjoy doing the show. Now it’s a total pleasure."

[tractor]

Do you think a fight will break out at his funeral? Maybe they can even televise it.

[Tennesseer]

Apr 28, 2023 19:55:16 GMT -5 tractor said:

Do you think a fight will break out at his funeral? Maybe they can even televise it.

Jello wrestling on the church altar. In bikinis

[Opti]

No church altar stuff. I saw way too much of Jerry Springer when I was recovering from sinus surgery. Weeks. I hate the stripper pole, the bikinis, the family call out drama. Yet, Jerry's final thoughts at the end of the show were almost always spot on, even if the guests never seemed to transform all that much.

I knew some of this sort of, but just found an article on his early years so I am sharing it.


people.com/politics/jerry-springer-political-career/


He Studied Political Science and Got a Job Working for RFK

Springer attended Tulane University in the 1960s, ultimately earning a bachelor's degree in political science before attending law school at Northwestern University in 1968.



Later, he worked as a political campaign adviser to Democrat Robert F. Kennedy, the younger brother of late President John F. Kennedy and a New York senator and former U.S. attorney general.

In 1971, Springer ran for a Cincinnati city council seat and won, later earning enough reelection votes to be named vice-mayor.



Springer, then 30, resigned from his city council position in 1974, after news reports suggested he had paid for sex at a brothel using checks. One day after his resignation, Springer said at a press conference: "When I resigned yesterday, I did so because I believed then as I believe now that there are some problems which are better faced as a private citizen."



He later testified at the trial of three men accused of operating the Kentucky "health club" where Springer had admitted to visiting twice for sex. On the stand, Springer said he wrote two checks, in the amounts of $25 and $50, in exchange for sex.

[Spellbound454]

Quite a nice guy by the TV was terrible .... and a bit of woolly poetry at the end doesn't really excuse using bad behaviour as entertainment....

or giving a platform to extreme attention seekers for your own amusement.


We had similar here, where they used to wind up vulnerable individuals for entertainment

Until someone who had been on the show killed himself because of it.

[Cheesy FL-Vol]

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Apr 29, 2023 3:21:20 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

Quite a nice guy by the TV was terrible .... and a bit of woolly poetry at the end doesn't really excuse using bad behaviour as entertainment....

or giving a platform to extreme attention seekers for your own amusement.


We had similar here, where they used to wind up vulnerable individuals for entertainment

Until someone who had been on the show killed himself because of it.

You like that broadcaster who targeted Meghan Markle because she didn't suck up to me him enough. I find him similar to Jerry's show, he just chooses people that are famous and makes their lives worse because he can. For the entertainment of his viewers

which sadly is kind of the exploitation of the royals as entertainment.

I would say the Jerry Springer show was a milder non deadly version of the Roman coliseums where the populace used to gather as a fam to watch Christians being killed by animals etc. Happy Saturday? 

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“(Nietzsche) called us ‘the bungled and the botched.’ We get teased. We sometimes get close to greatness, but we never get there. We’re the expendable masses. We get pushed in front of trains, take poison aspirin, get gunned down in Dairy Queens.” - Jack Lucas, “The Fisher King”

Jack could have added, "appear on the Jerry Springer show."

[Spellbound454]

which sadly is kind of the exploitation of the royals as entertainment.

Exploitation?

Meghan and Harry could have easily settled down for the quiet life they said they wanted.

but they just can't stop going on TV and getting in the papers whenever they can.

[Opti]

"The Jerry Springer Show" aired nearly 5,000 episodes over 27 seasons before its 2018 cancellation. Near the end of its run people stopped noticing it was on. But for a brief ridiculous span in the mid-to-late '90s, Springer established himself as the anti-Oprah by making people feel better about their lives by cynical comparison.



Day after day — night after night, in some markets — no matter how miserable we were, at least we weren't sitting in front of Springer being asked if we knew why we were there. It was not quite a validation of our life decisions as a celebration that other people were making poorer ones. And it capitalized on our propensity to be judgmental.


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Apr 29, 2023 9:34:55 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

“(Nietzsche) called us ‘the bungled and the botched.’ We get teased. We sometimes get close to greatness, but we never get there. We’re the expendable masses. We get pushed in front of trains, take poison aspirin, get gunned down in Dairy Queens.” - Jack Lucas, “The Fisher King”

Jack could have added, "appear on the Jerry Springer show."

that's the excellent movie The Fisher King w/ Robin Williams, yes?

[Opti]

I also loved Robin Williams in Awakenings and Robots. 

[billisonboard]

Apr 29, 2023 16:56:04 GMT -5 Opti said:

Apr 29, 2023 9:34:55 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

“(Nietzsche) called us ‘the bungled and the botched.’ We get teased. We sometimes get close to greatness, but we never get there. We’re the expendable masses. We get pushed in front of trains, take poison aspirin, get gunned down in Dairy Queens.” - Jack Lucas, “The Fisher King”

Jack could have added, "appear on the Jerry Springer show."

that's the excellent movie The Fisher King w/ Robin Williams, yes?

Yes.

[Tennesseer]

Opinion

My 'final thought’ on ‘The Jerry Springer Show’: It was toxic trash.
The talk show with the fighting guests and the cheering studio audience wasn't harmless fun.

Jerry Springer, who died from cancer Thursday at age 79, didn’t invent the sort of salacious spectacle he would become infamous for as longtime host of “The Jerry Springer Show.” But, as he expertly directed the show that aired five days a week for nearly 30 years, he became the most recognizable face of the genre. With his audience gleefully cheering on the trademark fights between his guests — chanting "Jer-ry! Jer-ry! Jer-ry!" — the bespectacled, well-dressed Springer presented himself as a sober presence in the rowdy crowd, ostensibly pleading for calm.

But his show caused harm: both to the people he invited on to be mocked and exposed, and to the often-marginalized groups they identified with. His show even contributed to the increasingly coarse way we talk to and about one another. Though Springer expressed some reservations about his show’s legacy, it’s not clear he ever truly appreciated just how destructive it was, especially to younger viewers soaking it all in.

For a long time, daytime television had been the purview of melodramatic soap operas, game shows and talk shows, such as Phil Donahue’s, geared toward a discussion of politics and self-help. The Jerry Springer Show had political content when it debuted in 1991, but its host responded to low ratings by backing off those more serious discussions and transforming the program into a modern-day take on the freak show. The most socially marginalized among us, almost all of them from the working class, were subjected to the harsh camera lights and paid to expose themselves for the enjoyment of those watching in person and those watching at home.

Rest of article here: My 'final thought’ on ‘The Jerry Springer Show’: It was toxic trash.

[djAdvocate]

i am not sure i ever saw that show.

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