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Post by kadee79 on Feb 18, 2023 17:02:25 GMT -5
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Tennesseer
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 18, 2023 17:08:44 GMT -5
Bless his heart.
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NastyWoman
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Post by NastyWoman on Feb 18, 2023 17:30:11 GMT -5
May his passing be easy and peaceful for him and his family.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 18, 2023 17:50:14 GMT -5
it is astounding he lived this long. but he lived a VERY good life. probably the most bountiful post-presidential life EVER.
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Post by chiver78 on Feb 18, 2023 18:05:15 GMT -5
I saw this earlier. I, too, am glad he is able to go home. he's done so much good for so many others, he has earned his rest.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Feb 18, 2023 21:04:34 GMT -5
Quite the contrast between him and our recent, POS past president. Carter is the goal that they should all try to emulate. He did more good after being president than most of them do as president. He deserves our respect and admiration for a life well lived
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Post by chiver78 on Feb 18, 2023 21:36:01 GMT -5
Quite the contrast between him and our recent, POS past president. Carter is the goal that they should all try to emulate. He did more good after being president than most of them do as president. He deserves our respect and admiration for a life well lived quoting for emphasis.
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Post by busymom on Feb 18, 2023 22:22:08 GMT -5
Carter spent his time being a blessing to his community, rather than figuring out how much money he could make when he was done with the White House. We can only hope more like him will appear, but haven't seen it yet. I wish him peace for a life done right.
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Post by toomuchreality on Feb 18, 2023 22:27:51 GMT -5
Loss is hard, usually. Sad.
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 19, 2023 10:36:01 GMT -5
He’s the living example of both public service and what living a Christian life means.
I can’t think of another modern President who comes close.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 19, 2023 10:51:27 GMT -5
On Friday, my husband and I were talking about him. I asked when we last saw him and wondered if he was on the downslide. Not a far leap, given that he is nearing 100 - but I haven’t thought about him for months. I am so glad that he was such an amazing former President.
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Post by tallguy on Feb 19, 2023 11:43:15 GMT -5
He’s the living example of both public service and what living a Christian life means. I can’t think of another modern President who comes close. Very true. I have stated many times that many if not most "Christians" in this country have no real idea what it means to be one. If you consider those in politics it is overwhelmingly so. For anyone making their religious beliefs a major part of their public and political persona, I would guess over 90% (and probably well over that) are lying about their faith for the sole purpose of exploiting those who actually do believe for either money or votes. Jimmy Carter has always, ALWAYS been the one shining exception. How galling it must be for "Christian" conservatives to admit that the best example of who they claim to be is a Democrat. Thank you, Mr. President, and congratulations on a life truly well-lived.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 19, 2023 13:11:01 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 19, 2023 14:01:40 GMT -5
He’s the living example of both public service and what living a Christian life means. I can’t think of another modern President who comes close. Very true. I have stated many times that many if not most "Christians" in this country have no real idea what it means to be one. If you consider those in politics it is overwhelmingly so. For anyone making their religious beliefs a major part of their public and political persona, I would guess over 90% (and probably well over that) are lying about their faith for the sole purpose of exploiting those who actually do believe for either money or votes. Jimmy Carter has always, ALWAYS been the one shining exception. How galling it must be for "Christian" conservatives to admit that the best example of who they claim to be is a Democrat. Thank you, Mr. President, and congratulations on a life truly well-lived. oh, not just a Democrat. a Democrat WIDELY regarded on the right as one of the worst presidents in US history (though, curiously, not by presidential historians, who rate him slightly below average).
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 19, 2023 18:54:33 GMT -5
Very true. I have stated many times that many if not most "Christians" in this country have no real idea what it means to be one. If you consider those in politics it is overwhelmingly so. For anyone making their religious beliefs a major part of their public and political persona, I would guess over 90% (and probably well over that) are lying about their faith for the sole purpose of exploiting those who actually do believe for either money or votes. Jimmy Carter has always, ALWAYS been the one shining exception. How galling it must be for "Christian" conservatives to admit that the best example of who they claim to be is a Democrat. Thank you, Mr. President, and congratulations on a life truly well-lived. oh, not just a Democrat. a Democrat WIDELY regarded on the right as one of the worst presidents in US history (though, curiously, not by presidential historians, who rate him slightly below average). Yes, I think the historians downgrade him not for any moral failure but because he was a micromanager and that limited how much he could get done in a day. As a fellow micromanager I understand the problem. Direct opposite of Bush Jr, who let others do too much managing. (Looking at you, Cheney). I would rate Bush Jr high on the ‘really being an actual Christian’ scale too, though.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 19, 2023 18:57:34 GMT -5
oh, not just a Democrat. a Democrat WIDELY regarded on the right as one of the worst presidents in US history (though, curiously, not by presidential historians, who rate him slightly below average). Yes, I think the historians downgrade him not for any moral failure but because he was a micromanager and that limited how much he could get done in a day. As a fellow micromanager I understand the problem. Direct opposite of Bush Jr, who let others do too much managing. (Looking at you, Cheney). I would rate Bush Jr high on the ‘really being an actual Christian’ scale too, though. he was also downgraded for being a one term president. they are not kind to presidents who can't manage their politics well enough to get re-elected.
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Post by Opti on Feb 19, 2023 20:43:46 GMT -5
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ken a.k.a OMK
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Feb 19, 2023 20:45:18 GMT -5
Then:
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Post by dondub on Feb 19, 2023 21:08:06 GMT -5
Iran~Contra…some very nasty business not fully investigated. Our side supported cocaine trafficking terrorists with the full support of the CIA and the Reagan White House.
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Post by chiver78 on Feb 19, 2023 21:36:24 GMT -5
Yes, I think the historians downgrade him not for any moral failure but because he was a micromanager and that limited how much he could get done in a day. As a fellow micromanager I understand the problem. Direct opposite of Bush Jr, who let others do too much managing. (Looking at you, Cheney). I would rate Bush Jr high on the ‘really being an actual Christian’ scale too, though. he was also downgraded for being a one term president. they are not kind to presidents who can't manage their politics well enough to get re-elected. it's interesting from an academic perspective to see how this isn't a thing for 45. in reality, this deliberate oversight is indicative of more terrifying things like Hitler's rise. but some will call this observation gaslighting, unrealistic, projecting, or a few other things that aren't charitable. how we handle those folks will pretty much determine the future of the country. that's scary to me, I've never had to worry about the solidity of the USA. this wasn't at all what I thought I was securing a backup plan for, when I activated my Canadian citizenship "born abroad" and got my 2nd passport. but shit, I am so glad I did.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 19, 2023 21:52:22 GMT -5
he was also downgraded for being a one term president. they are not kind to presidents who can't manage their politics well enough to get re-elected. it's interesting from an academic perspective to see how this isn't a thing for 45. in reality, this deliberate oversight is indicative of more terrifying things like Hitler's rise. but some will call this observation gaslighting, unrealistic, projecting, or a few other things that aren't charitable. how we handle those folks will pretty much determine the future of the country. that's scary to me, I've never had to worry about the solidity of the USA. this wasn't at all what I thought I was securing a backup plan for, when I activated my Canadian citizenship "born abroad" and got my 2nd passport. but shit, I am so glad I did. me too, chiver. not having a second passport puts a person in a potentially difficult position. if you happen to live in a stable democracy, you probably don't have anything to worry about. however, if you live in a shithole country, you have a great deal to worry about. you could be displaced and have to fight just to stay wherever you land, against language, culture and xenophobes. i don't think most Americans can imagine it, unless they are 1st or 2nd Gen.
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Post by chiver78 on Feb 19, 2023 22:09:14 GMT -5
it's interesting from an academic perspective to see how this isn't a thing for 45. in reality, this deliberate oversight is indicative of more terrifying things like Hitler's rise. but some will call this observation gaslighting, unrealistic, projecting, or a few other things that aren't charitable. how we handle those folks will pretty much determine the future of the country. that's scary to me, I've never had to worry about the solidity of the USA. this wasn't at all what I thought I was securing a backup plan for, when I activated my Canadian citizenship "born abroad" and got my 2nd passport. but shit, I am so glad I did. me too, chiver. not having a second passport puts a person in a potentially difficult position. if you happen to live in a stable democracy, you probably don't have anything to worry about. however, if you live in a shithole country, you have a great deal to worry about. you could be displaced and have to fight just to stay wherever you land, against language, culture and xenophobes. i don't think most Americans can imagine it, unless they are 1st or 2nd Gen.and maybe that's it. I'm 1st gen on Dad's side (he actually still carries a green card, that's a story for another day) and 2nd on Mom's side. pair that with moving a handful of times in my childhood, and I'm not tied to anywhere on a townie level. I may have been born in the US, and raised in coastal New England, but I've also travelled extensively enough to not be horribly put out if I need to move somewhere else at this point in my life.
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 3, 2024 8:17:55 GMT -5
Seriously- this dude knows how to draw things out! 🤣
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 13, 2024 15:44:49 GMT -5
Iran~Contra…some very nasty business not fully investigated. Our side supported cocaine trafficking terrorists with the full support of the CIA and the Reagan White House. the backdoor deal to retain hostages is an open secret at this point. and it probably cost Carter the election. so, add this to a long list of stolen elections. or at least wrongly influenced ones, if you don't want to call it theft.
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