Turns Out the People Funding Those Bizarre ‘He Gets Us’ Jesu

[Tennesseer]

Turns Out the People Funding Those Bizarre ‘He Gets Us’ Jesus Ads Are Just As Awful as You’d Expect

If you spend time online or watching TV in the US, chances are that you’ve seen the “He Gets Us” ads promoting Jesus. Yes, Jesus. As in Jesus Christ. The man with arguably the most controversial fandom in history.

The ads have been around for a while, but the lead-up to the Super Bowl has seen a rise in their campaign, likely because of a $100 million dollar advertisement that will air during the game. And this is only the start, as the brand reportedly plans to spend $1 billion over the course of the next 3 years.

A lot of people have expressed disbelief that they’re seeing advertisements for Jesus like he was a new car or iPhone. While many (especially those from the Bible Belt) know that billboards and ads for Christianity are nothing new, there is something that feels different about this campaign.

So who is advertising Jesus at the Super Bowl and why are they doing it?

Who is behind the ads?

Originally, some thought that the campaign might be from left-leaning Christians who were seeking to remind right-wing Christians of Jesus’ life as a refugee, or of his stance against hypocrisy.

However, that is not the case.

According to NPR, “[t]he ads are reportedly funded in part by the family that owns the notably religious craft store chain Hobby Lobby, according to Christianity Today, as well as other evangelical groups, including a foundation called The Signatry. Other donors have kept their identities anonymous.”

Hobby Lobby, of course, has been embroiled in multiple scandals and controversies; from filling their Bible museum with stolen artifacts to refusing to cover female employees’ birth control to attempting to remain open through stay-at-home orders in 2020, this company (along with Chick-fil-a) is basically the gold-standard of hypocritical American Christianity.

Why are they making these ads?

Rebecca Watson made a video breaking down the ad campaign and she explained that the Signatry is a Donor Advised Fund. Donor Advised Funds are meant to allow rich people to funnel money to their organizations with little to no accountability. Campaigns like these have allowed oil and energy companies to fund climate change misinformation in the past. The Signatry in particular has previously spent money on the “Alliance Defending Freedom,” “Answers in Genesis,” “Campus Crusade for Christ,” and Al-Hayat Ministries, all of which seem to have the goal of promoting right-wing Christianity and their agenda.

That’s why they spend millions of dollars on these advertisements instead of on charities. Because they are ultimately promoting an agenda, not trying to do good. If they can’t get something out of it (like new converts), then there’s no point in spending their money on it. They’ve basically admitted as much.

Bob Smietana, a national reporter for Religion News Service, said in an interview with NPR that “I think spending that much money, again, is a kind of admission on their part that there’s a problem. And, you know, there is a problem for organized religion in America. It’s declining, congregations are declining. And these ads, too, are a way to chide their fellow Christians to say, ‘This is what Jesus is like, and maybe we know it, and maybe we’re not acting like Jesus.’” Of course, Smietana also noted how a lot of Evangelicals are having a conflict with their personal politics and their religious values. Maybe these Evangelicals should prioritize defining their own relationship with their religion before pushing it onto others?

Insidious implications

But there’s something even more insidious to these ad campaigns. When you go to the website affiliated, they have options for finding congregations near you, but the site doesn’t vet any of their churches. Watson pointed out that a closeted gay person could end up being sent to a church that supports conversion therapy, or it could give young women messages like birth control is a sin and their place is in the home. All of which are very real, very dangerous possibilities, especially since the ads appear to be tailored specifically toward a younger audience. Many of the ads have messages suggesting Jesus—and, by extension, Christianity—is outside of or above politics, which we know is just frankly not the case.

Writing the campaign off as cringe or failed because “if you have to advertise the product, then it’s already failed” is, unfortunately, short-sighted. I wish I could write it off as a bad joke, another example of how the Christian right is disconnected from the average American. But when it comes to advertisements like these, the Christian right shows that it knows how to reframe itself for an audience and pretend to be caring and removed from politics when that is very much not the reality.

Turns Out the People Funding Those Bizarre ‘He Gets Us’ Jesus Ads Are Just As Awful as You’d Expect

[busymom]

Why am I not surprised by this?  

[Tiny]

I did watch Rebecca Watson's youtube video about this a couple of days ago (or whenever it came out).    I like her skeptical need for data/information and her humor.   

Before I saw Watson's video - I had come across a headline about the "He Gets Us" ad that would air during the big game - and my first impression of that info was "Wow.  the religious organizations in America must be really desperate and wow they've got ALOT of money." 

The lines between a Corporation and Organized Religion in America are getting blurred.  

Isn't this basically religions saying:  they are 'selling smoke and mirrors"?    the goal of advertisements is to convince consumers to spend money they may not have on a product they probably don't need.    

I find it rather creepy.   

Meant to add -  it's creepy because the religious ads use the same tactics as most consumer ads.    

[bean29]

I have been taking my Mom to Church nearly every week for the last year or so.  The Congregation is about 55% people 80 or older. 20% between 70 and 79, and 15% 50-69, and 5% or maybe 10% everyone else.  It is rare to see children in church.  In 5-10 years, they will be fighting for their existence in they don't attract young people.  They won't get my DD if they don't lighten up on women's issues especially birth control. My Mom's church was merged with two other churches in the area, and they mass we go to is at he original site.  It still exists b/c the school was rented to a college and the building was updated and maintained well.  So now the building is used for the Grade School and they Principal is OK with them having Church services there b/c it doesn't interfere with the school.  I have heard many people say that if they can't attend mass at the site of their original parish they will stop attending church.  Even my Mom who is extremely religious and always attended mass when out of town seems to feel if she can't go to mass on Saturday, she can just skip in person attendance and just watch mass on TV.  

The church teaching seems to be changing to reflect Republican Christian Values.  Never do I remember hearing that if you don't work, you don't deserve to eat expressed in church before, but I did recently hear than in a Sermon.

In 2 years, a good number of these people will vote, but in 6 years their % representation of population will be way down, and what is important to the majority of voters will probably be vastly different.  Hopefully we will still be a democracy at that point.

[hurley1980]

Feb 10, 2023 10:59:33 GMT -5 bean29 said:

I have been taking my Mom to Church nearly every week for the last year or so.  The Congregation is about 55% people 80 or older. 20% between 70 and 79, and 15% 50-69, and 5% or maybe 10% everyone else.  It is rare to see children in church.  In 5-10 years, they will be fighting for their existence in they don't attract young people.  They won't get my DD if they don't lighten up on women's issues especially birth control. My Mom's church was merged with two other churches in the area, and they mass we go to is at he original site.  It still exists b/c the school was rented to a college and the building was updated and maintained well.  So now the building is used for the Grade School and they Principal is OK with them having Church services there b/c it doesn't interfere with the school.  I have heard many people say that if they can't attend mass at the site of their original parish they will stop attending church.  Even my Mom who is extremely religious and always attended mass when out of town seems to feel if she can't go to mass on Saturday, she can just skip in person attendance and just watch mass on TV.  

The church teaching seems to be changing to reflect Republican Christian Values.  Never do I remember hearing that if you don't work, you don't deserve to eat expressed in church before, but I did recently hear than in a Sermon.

In 2 years, a good number of these people will vote, but in 6 years their % representation of population will be way down, and what is important to the majority of voters will probably be vastly different.  Hopefully we will still be a democracy at that point.

And Jesus wouldn't "get it" at all with these people!  They go against everything he believed in. 

[hurley1980]

I'm late Gen X (born in mid 1980), and I do not know anyone around my age that goes to church anymore.  My family wasn't very religious when I was young, but we did go to church with my grandparents sometimes, and I was baptized. The people in the past that I have known that do go, are all super right wingers who think showing up to a mega church every Sunday is going to give them a ticket to heaven, no matter how crappy of a person they are. 

I have seen the commercials, they are part of the ads on Hulu.  They make no sense to me at all!

[weltschmerz]

I haven't seen the 'He gets us" ads, but I do watch American TV and I've seen ads for prayer lines, crosses, bibles, etc. You'll NEVER see that on Canadian TV. We're a bunch of Godless communists, dontcha know?

The very idea that corporations would rather spend money on Superbowl ads instead of feeding the hungry or sheltering the homeless is abhorrent to me.

It is rare to see children in church.
It's rare to see ANYBODY in church where I live.

[Tiny]

Feb 10, 2023 10:59:33 GMT -5 bean29 said:

I have been taking my Mom to Church nearly every week for the last year or so.  The Congregation is about 55% people 80 or older. 20% between 70 and 79, and 15% 50-69, and 5% or maybe 10% everyone else.  It is rare to see children in church.  In 5-10 years, they will be fighting for their existence in they don't attract young people.  They won't get my DD if they don't lighten up on women's issues especially birth control. My Mom's church was merged with two other churches in the area, and they mass we go to is at he original site.  It still exists b/c the school was rented to a college and the building was updated and maintained well.  So now the building is used for the Grade School and they Principal is OK with them having Church services there b/c it doesn't interfere with the school.  I have heard many people say that if they can't attend mass at the site of their original parish they will stop attending church.  Even my Mom who is extremely religious and always attended mass when out of town seems to feel if she can't go to mass on Saturday, she can just skip in person attendance and just watch mass on TV.  

The church teaching seems to be changing to reflect Republican Christian Values.  Never do I remember hearing that if you don't work, you don't deserve to eat expressed in church before, but I did recently hear than in a Sermon.

In 2 years, a good number of these people will vote, but in 6 years their % representation of population will be way down, and what is important to the majority of voters will probably be vastly different.  Hopefully we will still be a democracy at that point.

Millenials outnumber boomers.  And the youngest Millenial is in their 40s.    I'm not convinced it's the Boomers votes that are putting the majority of elected officials in office.    

I've started to pay more attention to the 50 and under crowd.  

Especially when it comes to the idea that cutting Social Security and Medicare is a OK.    Most of the under 40 crowd I hang with don't think SS or Medicare will be around for their retirement.  I think this is why more voters didn't have a clue that cutting or getting rid of SS/Medicare is part of the Republican goals.   No one needs to tell them about it going away and that it's well worth keeping - they are very accepting of it going away and that they can't do anything about it.    

[hurley1980]

Feb 10, 2023 13:29:32 GMT -5 Tiny said:

Feb 10, 2023 10:59:33 GMT -5 bean29 said:

I have been taking my Mom to Church nearly every week for the last year or so.  The Congregation is about 55% people 80 or older. 20% between 70 and 79, and 15% 50-69, and 5% or maybe 10% everyone else.  It is rare to see children in church.  In 5-10 years, they will be fighting for their existence in they don't attract young people.  They won't get my DD if they don't lighten up on women's issues especially birth control. My Mom's church was merged with two other churches in the area, and they mass we go to is at he original site.  It still exists b/c the school was rented to a college and the building was updated and maintained well.  So now the building is used for the Grade School and they Principal is OK with them having Church services there b/c it doesn't interfere with the school.  I have heard many people say that if they can't attend mass at the site of their original parish they will stop attending church.  Even my Mom who is extremely religious and always attended mass when out of town seems to feel if she can't go to mass on Saturday, she can just skip in person attendance and just watch mass on TV.  

The church teaching seems to be changing to reflect Republican Christian Values.  Never do I remember hearing that if you don't work, you don't deserve to eat expressed in church before, but I did recently hear than in a Sermon.

In 2 years, a good number of these people will vote, but in 6 years their % representation of population will be way down, and what is important to the majority of voters will probably be vastly different.  Hopefully we will still be a democracy at that point.

Millenials outnumber boomers.  And the youngest Millenial is in their 40s.    I'm not convinced it's the Boomers votes that are putting the majority of elected officials in office.    

I've started to pay more attention to the 50 and under crowd.  

Especially when it comes to the idea that cutting Social Security and Medicare is a OK.    Most of the under 40 crowd I hang with don't think SS or Medicare will be around for their retirement.  I think this is why more voters didn't have a clue that cutting or getting rid of SS/Medicare is part of the Republican goals.   No one needs to tell them about it going away and that it's well worth keeping - they are very accepting of it going away and that they can't do anything about it.    

You're thinking Gen X, the last of them is about 42 right now.  Millennials were born between 1981 and 1996, so the youngest of them are about 26-27.

The rest of the post is spot on though.  The under 50 crowd are the ones that are going to be in power as soon as these boomers get out of the way, and thy are going to have a lot of crap to fix.  I've been told since I was in my 20s that factoring in SS and Medicare was foolish, and to prepare for retirement without it. 

[Tiny]

Feb 10, 2023 16:22:45 GMT -5 hurley1980 said:

Feb 10, 2023 13:29:32 GMT -5 Tiny said:

Millenials outnumber boomers.  And the youngest Millenial is in their 40s.    I'm not convinced it's the Boomers votes that are putting the majority of elected officials in office.    

I've started to pay more attention to the 50 and under crowd.  

Especially when it comes to the idea that cutting Social Security and Medicare is a OK.    Most of the under 40 crowd I hang with don't think SS or Medicare will be around for their retirement.  I think this is why more voters didn't have a clue that cutting or getting rid of SS/Medicare is part of the Republican goals.   No one needs to tell them about it going away and that it's well worth keeping - they are very accepting of it going away and that they can't do anything about it.    

You're thinking Gen X, the last of them is about 42 right now.  Millennials were born between 1981 and 1996, so the youngest of them are about 26-27.

The rest of the post is spot on though.  The under 50 crowd are the ones that are going to be in power as soon as these boomers get out of the way, and thy are going to have a lot of crap to fix.  I've been told since I was in my 20s that factoring in SS and Medicare was foolish, and to prepare for retirement without it. 

I use to think this way... that the boomers where somehow doing all the voting and ignoring the younger people in America.    I think the under 50's crowd IS strongly going along with all of this and voting for the candidates  like trump and the "little trumps".       I think there are a lot of  late 20 year olds and older who may actually believe the conspiracy theories AND that non-whites are taking their jobs or sucking off the government teat.         

Our politicians have done a good job of instilling a "the reason you can't have nice things is because of the people, who aren't like you in any way,  in America. These people are holding us all back" into people's subconscious.    Followed up with "to solve this problem we just need to limit what those people can do, say, and be."        When that is exactly the way you keep people from having "nice things". 

 

[teen persuasion]

Feb 10, 2023 10:59:33 GMT -5 bean29 said:

I have been taking my Mom to Church nearly every week for the last year or so.  The Congregation is about 55% people 80 or older. 20% between 70 and 79, and 15% 50-69, and 5% or maybe 10% everyone else.  It is rare to see children in church.  In 5-10 years, they will be fighting for their existence in they don't attract young people.  They won't get my DD if they don't lighten up on women's issues especially birth control. My Mom's church was merged with two other churches in the area, and they mass we go to is at he original site.  It still exists b/c the school was rented to a college and the building was updated and maintained well.  So now the building is used for the Grade School and they Principal is OK with them having Church services there b/c it doesn't interfere with the school.  I have heard many people say that if they can't attend mass at the site of their original parish they will stop attending church.  Even my Mom who is extremely religious and always attended mass when out of town seems to feel if she can't go to mass on Saturday, she can just skip in person attendance and just watch mass on TV.  

The church teaching seems to be changing to reflect Republican Christian Values.  Never do I remember hearing that if you don't work, you don't deserve to eat expressed in church before, but I did recently hear than in a Sermon.

In 2 years, a good number of these people will vote, but in 6 years their % representation of population will be way down, and what is important to the majority of voters will probably be vastly different.  Hopefully we will still be a democracy at that point.

I'm seeing the rapid death of our parishes here, too. DS5 is one of 2 kids acting as altar servers.  They both made their Confirmation in the fall, but are still serving because there's no one else. But they will be leaving for college...

We've already been thru 2 or three rounds of parish mergers.  My church was "divorced" from our first merger (other parish was lumped with 5 churches in the city to the west, and only one site was kept).  We were merged with 2 churches in a county to the east, eventually one site was mothballed, but our two sites continued services and combined things under one priest.  When he decided to leave for greener pastures, the diocese had a hard time finding a replacement priest.  The pastor of a similarly merged multi-site parish to our north was "temporarily" covering us, too.  Eventually the diocese just named him pastor of BOTH parishes, 4 churches!  Well, now he's reached 75, mandatory retirement age (not really retirement, just reassigned to "lesser" duties, not pastor) and we are once again in limbo waiting for the diocese to "find" a priest for our 4 churches.  Fr. was trying to organize a temporary schedule of masses with coverage from other priests in our vicariate area, and it got revised multiple times after publication in the bulletin.     Biggest problem is all the masses are roughly the same few times, and travel between sites adds more time...

Fr. made an interesting comment - it's not that there are too few priests.  The ratio of priests to laity is stable.  What he left unsaid - there's too few people per worship site!  If we consolidated, things would work better.  But as bean29 said, everyone wants to go to "their" church, or just quit going altogether. I hate all the driving that merging has forced us to do for meetings or Rel Ed, etc.  Merging my area into one church would mean most of us would drive an hour, or more - nope, not doing it. I think the diocese is just waiting it out - the oldest members are thinning rapidly.  Those that are left will either drift away (either altogether, or to a more lively parish), and some sites will have no one interested enough to keep them open.

[weltschmerz]

Montreal  has gorgeous neo-Gothic and Byzantime churches everywhere, and I do mean everywhere. It used to be ccalled 'The City of a Thousand Steeples.'
Due to lack of parishoners and expensive upkeep, 57 of them have been sold to developers and turned into condos, gyms, places to practice the circus arts, restaurants, bars, etc. We also have lots of convents but nobody want to go to a nunnery anymore.
What to do with all these beautiful and historic buildings? We're certainly not going to tear them down.
Conversion is the only answer.

[weltschmerz]

www.ctvnews.ca/lifestyle/struggling-montreal-church-finds-new-life-with-circus-troupe-1.4409209?cache=yes%3FautoPlay%3Dtrue

[Opti]

Feb 10, 2023 16:22:45 GMT -5 hurley1980 said:

Feb 10, 2023 13:29:32 GMT -5 Tiny said:

Millenials outnumber boomers.  And the youngest Millenial is in their 40s.    I'm not convinced it's the Boomers votes that are putting the majority of elected officials in office.    

I've started to pay more attention to the 50 and under crowd.  

Especially when it comes to the idea that cutting Social Security and Medicare is a OK.    Most of the under 40 crowd I hang with don't think SS or Medicare will be around for their retirement.  I think this is why more voters didn't have a clue that cutting or getting rid of SS/Medicare is part of the Republican goals.   No one needs to tell them about it going away and that it's well worth keeping - they are very accepting of it going away and that they can't do anything about it.    

You're thinking Gen X, the last of them is about 42 right now.  Millennials were born between 1981 and 1996, so the youngest of them are about 26-27.

The rest of the post is spot on though.  The under 50 crowd are the ones that are going to be in power as soon as these boomers get out of the way, and thy are going to have a lot of crap to fix.  I've been told since I was in my 20s that factoring in SS and Medicare was foolish, and to prepare for retirement without it. 

Every generation causes their own crap, and the under 50 crowd is no exception. Look at what DeSantis age 44 has been doing to Florida. I looked up the composition in Congress and the House currently is 50% of people born after the Boom generation. Ideology is more important than age. Ruth Bader Ginsberg cared more about all people's rights (older than a Boomer) than Justice Kavanaugh (58) and Justice Barrett (51) do. 

www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2023/02/07/the-changing-face-of-congress/

The share of Millennials and Gen Xers in Congress has grown slightly in recent years. In the current Congress, 12% of House members, or 52 lawmakers, are Millennials (a generation ranging in age from 27 to 42 in 2023). This share is up from 1% at the start of the 115th Congress in 2017. And 166 members of the House (38%) are part of Generation X – ages 43 to 58 in 2023 – up from 27% in the 115th Congress.

Yes the Boomers still control the Senate but notice the difference in generation lengths. The Boomers are defined over a 18-year period and GenX and Millennials over a slightly more reasonable 15-year period. 

[Opti]

I'm glad I haven't yet seen any of the ads mentioned in the OP. I will probably miss them today as well as I don't have much luck watching Fox on my laptop.

[tractor]

I'll be the lone voice in the wilderness on this one. I like the adds, know nothing about the $$ behind them. What I hear is Jesus was as relevant and relatable to what we are facing today, as he was 2000+ years ago. They make me think, and want to do more to achieve a higher understanding of what we need to do in society today to bring about peace and understanding.

[dondub]

Feb 10, 2023 13:03:37 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

I haven't seen the 'He gets us" ads, but I do watch American TV and I've seen ads for prayer lines, crosses, bibles, etc. You'll NEVER see that on Canadian TV. We're a bunch of Godless communists, dontcha know?

The very idea that corporations would rather spend money on Superbowl ads instead of feeding the hungry or sheltering the homeless is abhorrent to me.

It is rare to see children in church.
It's rare to see ANYBODY in church where I live.

Donnadub retired just in time to avoid the merger her employer and CHI Franciscan. No more abortions or deaths with dignity. Other women’s right issue too. They gladly spent $7million for their 30 second 4th quarter commercial.

[swamp]

Feb 12, 2023 12:25:34 GMT -5 tractor said:

I'll be the lone voice in the wilderness on this one. I like the adds, know nothing about the $$ behind them. What I hear is Jesus was as relevant and relatable to what we are facing today, as he was 2000+ years ago. They make me think, and want to do more to achieve a higher understanding of what we need to do in society today to bring about peace and understanding.

I like the message in the ads, and I think we should all keep Jesus’s lessons in mind.  Too bad the funds for the ads come from a bigot. 

[Tennesseer]

Feb 13, 2023 13:22:11 GMT -5 swamp said:

Feb 12, 2023 12:25:34 GMT -5 tractor said:

I'll be the lone voice in the wilderness on this one. I like the adds, know nothing about the $$ behind them. What I hear is Jesus was as relevant and relatable to what we are facing today, as he was 2000+ years ago. They make me think, and want to do more to achieve a higher understanding of what we need to do in society today to bring about peace and understanding.

I like the message in the ads, and I think we should all keep Jesus’s lessons in mind.  Too bad the funds for the ads come from a bigot. 

And hypocrites too.

[Ryan]

Feb 13, 2023 18:56:03 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Feb 13, 2023 13:22:11 GMT -5 swamp said:

I like the message in the ads, and I think we should all keep Jesus’s lessons in mind.  Too bad the funds for the ads come from a bigot. 

And hypocrites too.

If you disqualify all the hypocrites from being advocates, you're pretty much going to have nobody to deliver a message.  Unless you don't want anybody delivering any message?   I think ultimately people either like or don't like the message and that's the bottom line.

[Tennesseer]

Feb 14, 2023 10:35:13 GMT -5 Ryan said:

Feb 13, 2023 18:56:03 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

And hypocrites too.

If you disqualify all the hypocrites from being advocates, you're pretty much going to have nobody to deliver a message.  Unless you don't want anybody delivering any message?   I think ultimately people either like or don't like the message and that's the bottom line.

I found this meme quite appropriate.

[Ryan]

Feb 14, 2023 10:53:06 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Feb 14, 2023 10:35:13 GMT -5 Ryan said:

If you disqualify all the hypocrites from being advocates, you're pretty much going to have nobody to deliver a message.  Unless you don't want anybody delivering any message?   I think ultimately people either like or don't like the message and that's the bottom line.

I found this meme quite appropriate.

Christianity is about outreach, so while you might not agree with it, it's not that far out of bounds.  I'd question the effectiveness more than anything else.  

Still though, if you want to create laws outlawing how non profits spend money, then that's another matter.   

[Tennesseer]

[Ryan]

Feb 16, 2023 10:54:59 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I think it's pretty clear that you just want Christians silenced, you can just come out and say it.  

[Tennesseer]

Feb 16, 2023 17:21:12 GMT -5 Ryan said:

Feb 16, 2023 10:54:59 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I think it's pretty clear that you just want Christians silenced, you can just come out and say it.  

Not at all. I want them to follow the teachings of Christ which includes taking in refugees, offering welfare to those who need it and other things Christ would want them to do.

[Tennesseer]

Feb 16, 2023 17:21:12 GMT -5 Ryan said:

Feb 16, 2023 10:54:59 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I think it's pretty clear that you just want Christians silenced, you can just come out and say it.  

A good example of an unlike Jesus Christian would be the the quote of the person in the opening post of the 'Denver councilman said he was left 'humiliated' after he was'.

It is at the bottom of the post.

And chances are really, really good the guy calls himself a 'Christian'. A disgusting human being.

[chiver78]

I actually just finally saw one of these ads. I was fascinated by what the eventual message was going to be, after seeing a series of photos of altercations (some physical) about things that were very clearly differences of opinions. I was sorely disappointed to see the "he gets us" graphic at the end of it. I thought it might be an ad for something that would actually do some good. 

[Tennesseer]

It's a shame their slogan isn't 'We get Him'.

[djAdvocate]

Feb 18, 2023 19:00:43 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

It's a shame their slogan isn't 'We get Him'.

or We Got You.