Part of the Job?

[Opti]

I'm guessing Bills you aren't noticing the apparent rash of men in the news who have killed women who have spurned their advances because they are entitled dammit. At least one of them got sentenced recently. Some of these assholes do a quick shot to the head and move on.

She should take this seriously, it is scary you do not think so.

[billisonboard]

Nov 4, 2022 20:43:13 GMT -5 Opti said:

I'm guessing Bills you aren't noticing the apparent rash of men in the news who have killed women who have spurned their advances because they are entitled dammit. At least one of them got sentenced recently. Some of these assholes do a quick shot to the head and move on.

She should take this seriously, it is scary you do not think so.

Report him to the police for criminal prosecution the first time he did it. Or the second. Or third. Fourth. Fifth. Sixth. Seventh. Eighth. Or at least the ninth. Or file a lawsuit after your contract isn't renewed. Who didn't take the exposure as a serious crime?

[billisonboard]

Nov 4, 2022 20:40:19 GMT -5 Opti said:

Nov 4, 2022 16:19:40 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Should they be forced to hire a second because the one they had wasn't well suited to deal with the job as it was?

Should she be forced to see a man who is 6 ft 6 and 200 lbs just because you think she should? A sports psychologist should not be and have all psychological disciplines under her belt simply cause Bills deems it so. The fact that the team released him while ignoring her complaints tells me much of what I need to know. They didn't take her complaints seriously, but once she threatened them with a lawsuit they did some investigation and decided the suit had merit and they screwed up. They hope by letting him go they will mitigate the damages in the lawsuit. MO.

No one should be forced to do anything. But there are things that people should reasonably be expected to deal with when they choose to enter a profession and take a certain job. Professional athletes are a very privileged group in our society and can feel entitled. A therapist hired to deal with such should reasonably expect asshole and even criminal behavior. Deal with it or move on.

[tallguy]

I've done a lot more than that in front of a psychologist.  I wasn't seeing her as a psychologist and we were in a relationship at the time.  Does that make a difference?  Hope so.      

[Spellbound454]

A therapist hired to deal with such should reasonably expect asshole and even criminal behavior. Deal with it or move on.

Nope, I don't go to work to be abused.

I'm with young people all the time and there are definite boundaries.

Anything sexual against me or any female students would be a police matter.

[billisonboard]

Nov 5, 2022 14:14:51 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

A therapist hired to deal with such should reasonably expect asshole and even criminal behavior. Deal with it or move on.

Nope, I don't go to work to be abused.

I'm with young people all the time and there are definite boundaries.

Anything sexual against me or any female students would be a police matter.

Yes, you are a teacher, not a psychologist.

How about against male students?

[swamp]

Nov 4, 2022 22:22:22 GMT -5 tallguy said:

I've done a lot more than that in front of a psychologist.  I wasn't seeing her as a psychologist and we were in a relationship at the time.  Does that make a difference?  Hope so.      

Consent seems to be the key here. 

I hope you arent displaying your junk to people with whom you have a professional relationship. 

[tallguy]

Nov 5, 2022 15:32:48 GMT -5 swamp said:

Nov 4, 2022 22:22:22 GMT -5 tallguy said:

I've done a lot more than that in front of a psychologist.  I wasn't seeing her as a psychologist and we were in a relationship at the time.  Does that make a difference?  Hope so.      

Consent seems to be the key here. 

I hope you arent displaying your junk to people with whom you have a professional relationship. 

No.  Girlfriend.  I don't have a professional relationship with anybody.  Don't need 'em.  

And it's not junk!  It's not!  It's not!  

[Spellbound454]

How about against male students?

The same, we don't allow it.

I don't see that anyone goes to work to be abused tbh....... no matter what you do.

[Opti]

Nov 5, 2022 14:24:25 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Nov 5, 2022 14:14:51 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

Nope, I don't go to work to be abused.

I'm with young people all the time and there are definite boundaries.

Anything sexual against me or any female students would be a police matter.

Yes, you are a teacher, not a psychologist.

How about against male students?

And the psychologist filing a lawsuit was not a sex therapist.

[billisonboard]

Nov 5, 2022 17:32:59 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

How about against male students?

The same, we don't allow it.

I don't see that anyone goes to work to be abused tbh....... no matter what you do.

The 12-year-old nonverbal autistic student I work with has no way to communicate his frustrations other than to hit or scratch. Is he abusing me when he strikes out at me? Or is he just playing out his dysfunctional behavior? Is a patient in a therapeutic session abusing the therapist when they act out? I think a psychologist should be able to maintain a professional detachment from things like a patient exposing themselves.

[billisonboard]

Nov 5, 2022 17:54:21 GMT -5 Opti said:

Nov 5, 2022 14:24:25 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Yes, you are a teacher, not a psychologist.

How about against male students?

And the psychologist filing a lawsuit was not a sex therapist.

Then she shouldn't have continued as this man's therapist when it became clear she wasn't qualified to treat him.