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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Jul 31, 2022 20:57:53 GMT -5
DH and I have been hoping for a few years something like this would happen. I'm mildly surprised that it's Andrew Yang leading this initiativ e.
Andrew Yang announces new political party with centrists Three separate groups of Republicans, Democrats and Independents announced Wednesday that they are coming together under one umbrella to form a new political party. The goal of the new Forward party is to build a new kind of political party that it claims represents the interests of the majority of Americans who "reject extremism and division."
link to CBS article
The NY Times published an editorial that they don't think it will take. Why Andrew Yang’s New Third Party Is Bound to Fail link to NY Time op ed
Let’s not mince words. The new Forward Party announced by the former presidential candidate Andrew Yang, the former governor Christine Todd Whitman and the former congressman David Jolly is doomed to failure. The odds that it will attract any more than a token amount of support from the public, not to mention political elites, are slim to none. It will wither on the vine as the latest in a long history of vanity political parties.
'A really stupid idea': Carville slams Yang's new political party James Carville is not thrilled. link to CNN video
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Post by tbop77 on Aug 1, 2022 5:19:24 GMT -5
We’re not just a new party, we’re a new kind of party. The Forward Party stands for doing, not dividing. That means rejecting political extremes and working together to take real action on every important issue for the unrepresented majority in American politics. We're not building a copy of the current parties, which are dragging our country backwards. We're moving American politics forward, with a party focused on innovative, collaborative, and common-sense solutions that work for the majority. HOW WE’RE DIFFERENT Diverse Thinking Isn't Just Welcome, It's Required The Forward Party will welcome new ideas and fearless conversations around the issues of the day. We won’t silence debate or refuse to adapt to the modern world. Bottom-Up, Not Top Down The Forward Party will empower leaders to find solutions that work in their communities. We won’t dictate a rigid, top down policy platform and expect it to work for all Americans. No Purity Tests The Forward Party will create a political home for everyone willing to set aside the partisan extremes and find practical ways to make this country better. We won’t be checking IDs to see if people are Democrats, Republicans, or Independents. More Listening, Less Talking The Forward Party will ask you what we can do for your community. We will not ask what your community can do for us. Work Together, Not Against The Forward Party will strive for collaborative solutions, make sure they work, and try something else if they don’t. We won’t ignore problems so that we can use them to drive wedges between Americans; nothing gets done when opposing views are treated like enemy positions. Grace and Tolerance The Forward Party will approach each other with grace and tolerance, finding ways to pick people back up rather than knock them down. We won’t cancel people or cast them out of the party for not falling in line. www.forwardparty.com/whyforwardOf course it will fail because it sounds like just what politicians should do!
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 1, 2022 8:23:04 GMT -5
Why I question this group's chance of success:
On a Wednesday, in the middle of summer, with midterm election campaigns in full swing, a group announces they are forming a new political party.
And not:
On a Monday, during the first week of March, in the year following a presidential election a group announces they are forming a new political party and are working towards having candidates on the ballot in each congressional district the following midterms.
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Post by busymom on Aug 1, 2022 9:13:15 GMT -5
Although in theory I approve of a "moderate" party, as I've mentioned before, Minnesota had a 3rd party candidate in the governor's office, and it just didn't work. Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans would work with him, so basically not a whole lot was accomplished. I do agree that both parties are playing too far out on the edge. Why the Republicans call their moderates RINOs, I just don't know. If I was a Republican, I'd consider that a compliment right now.
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Post by dondub on Aug 1, 2022 9:23:39 GMT -5
Although in theory I approve of a "moderate" party, as I've mentioned before, Minnesota had a 3rd party candidate in the governor's office, and it just didn't work. Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans would work with him, so basically not a whole lot was accomplished. I do agree that both parties are playing too far out on the edge. Why the Republicans call their moderates RINOs, I just don't know. If I was a Republican, I'd consider that a compliment right now. Jesse?
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 1, 2022 9:29:11 GMT -5
Although in theory I approve of a "moderate" party, as I've mentioned before, Minnesota had a 3rd party candidate in the governor's office, and it just didn't work. Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans would work with him, so basically not a whole lot was accomplished. I do agree that both parties are playing too far out on the edge. Why the Republicans call their moderates RINOs, I just don't know. If I was a Republican, I'd consider that a compliment right now. It has to be a legislature level movement first. If a third party had a large enough group in the House, they could work to draw in non-extremists from R's and D's, (recruiting them in the process) to pass some good things there, use that as a platform to gain Senate seats, and then make a serious run for the executive branch.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 1, 2022 9:46:05 GMT -5
Time will tell if the Forward Party has teeth. It will have to win local and state elections for some time before they hit the national stage.
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 1, 2022 10:04:44 GMT -5
Time will tell if the Forward Party has teeth. It will have to win local and state elections for some time before they hit the national stage. There was a time I would have agreed with you on this Tennesseer, but not as sure now. I think the internet as created the opportunity to communicate with and move larger groups of people than was previously possible. I don't think it can start with the Presidency and not really even the Senate. But I do think congressional districts are small enough to tackle. The party could then grow both up and down from there.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 1, 2022 10:11:52 GMT -5
Time will tell if the Forward Party has teeth. It will have to win local and state elections for some time before they hit the national stage. There was a time I would have agreed with you on this Tennesseer, but not as sure now. I think the internet as created the opportunity to communicate with and move larger groups of people than was previously possible. I don't think it can start with the Presidency and not really even the Senate. But I do think congressional districts are small enough to tackle. The party could then grow both up and down from there. I agree with you but even filling House seats will take some time. The party will have to show the citizens of cities and states it has proven itself and that it is working for them. And that may take several election cycles. I wish it were this election cycle.
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 1, 2022 10:25:52 GMT -5
There was a time I would have agreed with you on this Tennesseer, but not as sure now. I think the internet as created the opportunity to communicate with and move larger groups of people than was previously possible. I don't think it can start with the Presidency and not really even the Senate. But I do think congressional districts are small enough to tackle. The party could then grow both up and down from there. I agree with you but even filling House seats will take some time. The party will have to show the citizens of cities and states it has proven itself and that it is working for them. And that may take several election cycles. I wish it were this election cycle. You nailed the tricky part. They need to show results but need to hold enough power to get results. I think anything short of a successful blitzkrieg in their first go will whither.
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Post by busymom on Aug 1, 2022 10:41:22 GMT -5
Although in theory I approve of a "moderate" party, as I've mentioned before, Minnesota had a 3rd party candidate in the governor's office, and it just didn't work. Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans would work with him, so basically not a whole lot was accomplished. I do agree that both parties are playing too far out on the edge. Why the Republicans call their moderates RINOs, I just don't know. If I was a Republican, I'd consider that a compliment right now. Jesse? Correct!
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