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Post by Value Buy on May 16, 2022 22:18:09 GMT -5
I was going to put this in current events but I know a poster would complain it belongs in politics, so I will cut Moon out of the equation this time and make it a political discussion from the start. Twitter permitted Trump to announce tonight he, or as he is now known as, Ultra MAGA King, is back on Twitter. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-is-back-on-twitter/ar-AAXm3Qv?li=BBorjTaElon has been toying with Twitter on Twitter and now we have the President back to twist the knife. Problem for Twitter is if Elon can prove many more than 5% of their accounts are bots, it becomes a ten dollar stock and he can pay $15 a share for it. Let the fun begin!
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Post by billisonboard on May 16, 2022 23:21:21 GMT -5
I was going to put this in current events but I know a poster would complain it belongs in politics, so I will cut Moon out of the equation this time and make it a political discussion from the start. Twitter permitted Trump to announce tonight he, or as he is now known as, Ultra MAGA King, is back on Twitter. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-is-back-on-twitter/ar-AAXm3Qv?li=BBorjTaElon has been toying with Twitter on Twitter and now we have the President back to twist the knife. Problem for Twitter is if Elon can prove many more than 5% of their accounts are bots, it becomes a ten dollar stock and he can pay $15 a share for it. Let the fun begin! Biden?
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Post by djAdvocate on May 17, 2022 0:53:19 GMT -5
I was going to put this in current events but I know a poster would complain it belongs in politics, so I will cut Moon out of the equation this time and make it a political discussion from the start. Twitter permitted Trump to announce tonight he, or as he is now known as, Ultra MAGA King, is back on Twitter. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-is-back-on-twitter/ar-AAXm3Qv?li=BBorjTaElon has been toying with Twitter on Twitter and now we have the President back to twist the knife. Problem for Twitter is if Elon can prove many more than 5% of their accounts are bots, it becomes a ten dollar stock and he can pay $15 a share for it. Let the fun begin! Biden? Jack Dorsey?
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Post by bean29 on May 17, 2022 3:01:47 GMT -5
Wonder how many idiots will vote for someone who thinks of himself as King before the election?
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Post by tbop77 on May 17, 2022 5:37:18 GMT -5
I was going to put this in current events but I know a poster would complain it belongs in politics, so I will cut Moon out of the equation this time and make it a political discussion from the start. Twitter permitted Trump to announce tonight he, or as he is now known as, Ultra MAGA King, is back on Twitter. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-is-back-on-twitter/ar-AAXm3Qv?li=BBorjTaElon has been toying with Twitter on Twitter and now we have the President back to twist the knife. Problem for Twitter is if Elon can prove many more than 5% of their accounts are bots, it becomes a ten dollar stock and he can pay $15 a share for it. Let the fun begin! Trump as the Ultra MAGA king and a pot smoker. Yep, sounds about right for the cult! Just days before his Twitter offer of $54.20 per share in cash, he had joked about smoking marijuana at Twitter board meetings by sharing a meme of him surrounded by smoke while a guest on Joe Rogan’s podcast. “Twitter’s next board meeting is gonna be lit,” a caption on the meme stated. Mr Musk is trying to get himself released from an agreement with the SEC that requires a Tesla lawyer to check all tweets about the company before they are posted. news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-tesla-chief-uses-223446224.htmlMr first amendment Musk agreed an attorney check his tweets regarding Tesla before they are posted?
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Post by Opti on May 17, 2022 6:38:54 GMT -5
The new setup on Twitter appears to undermine the spirit of Trump’s own pledge in a filing Monday with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission that “if” he’s allowed back on Twitter he will partially restrict usage and prioritize Truth Social (and give some comfort to investors).
He promised to wait six hours before posting a Truth Social message on competing social media, but only if it doesn’t involve politics. All of Trump’s Truth Social tweets could be construed as political.
“President Donald J. Trump’s Truth Social Posts” joined Twitter in April, according to its profile description. Several responses to the profile, however, indicate it’s brand new. HuffPost first spotted it Sunday.
news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-back-twitter-003403140.html
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Post by Tennesseer on May 17, 2022 11:35:39 GMT -5
I was going to put this in current events but I know a poster would complain it belongs in politics, so I will cut Moon out of the equation this time and make it a political discussion from the start. Twitter permitted Trump to announce tonight he, or as he is now known as, Ultra MAGA King, is back on Twitter. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-is-back-on-twitter/ar-AAXm3Qv?li=BBorjTaElon has been toying with Twitter on Twitter and now we have the President back to twist the knife. Problem for Twitter is if Elon can prove many more than 5% of their accounts are bots, it becomes a ten dollar stock and he can pay $15 a share for it. Let the fun begin! You are well trained.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 17, 2022 12:01:31 GMT -5
I was going to put this in current events but I know a poster would complain it belongs in politics, so I will cut Moon out of the equation this time and make it a political discussion from the start. Twitter permitted Trump to announce tonight he, or as he is now known as, Ultra MAGA King, is back on Twitter. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-is-back-on-twitter/ar-AAXm3Qv?li=BBorjTaElon has been toying with Twitter on Twitter and now we have the President back to twist the knife. Problem for Twitter is if Elon can prove many more than 5% of their accounts are bots, it becomes a ten dollar stock and he can pay $15 a share for it. Let the fun begin! You are well trained. he might be right. but if so, Twitter should reject the offer.
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Post by Value Buy on May 17, 2022 14:25:56 GMT -5
he might be right. but if so, Twitter should reject the offer. I think if twitter rejects it, it becomes basically a shell company from it former self not unlike so many spac deals and possibly becomes a penny stock. It has been owned by the left since inception, and was a brutal dictatorship. MGMT knows how many bots there were and still are, and it was never as important in the telecommunication internet world as was portrayed by the left because it was basically fake. We all owe Musk a debt of gratitude for exposing this company for what it is. It deserves to die a painful death. I consider it another ENRON. A deck of cards falling apart now.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 17, 2022 17:51:33 GMT -5
he might be right. but if so, Twitter should reject the offer. I think if twitter rejects it, it becomes basically a shell company from it former self not unlike so many spac deals and possibly becomes a penny stock. It has been owned by the left since inception, and was a brutal dictatorship. MGMT knows how many bots there were and still are, and it was never as important in the telecommunication internet world as was portrayed by the left because it was basically fake. We all owe Musk a debt of gratitude for exposing this company for what it is. It deserves to die a painful death. I consider it another ENRON. A deck of cards falling apart now. i think that is exceedingly cynical. nobody i know who uses Twitter wants to leave it.
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Post by Opti on May 17, 2022 18:39:47 GMT -5
he might be right. but if so, Twitter should reject the offer. I think if twitter rejects it, it becomes basically a shell company from it former self not unlike so many spac deals and possibly becomes a penny stock. It has been owned by the left since inception, and was a brutal dictatorship. MGMT knows how many bots there were and still are, and it was never as important in the telecommunication internet world as was portrayed by the left because it was basically fake. We all owe Musk a debt of gratitude for exposing this company for what it is. It deserves to die a painful death. I consider it another ENRON. A deck of cards falling apart now. Why is Musk owed gratitude in your opinion? Because he wants to take it private? I feel like you have no clue on how Twitter tracks any account let alone having a belief that mgmt keeps track of the number of bots but does nothing about them. Every giant corp in a similar space has issues and it really depends on their policies and procedures as to how bad it is and how often anything is done about it. On Yahoo email, apparently one account a friend of mine abandoned more than a few people try to spam from it or using headers that are designed to scam. Yahoo is bad about certain kinds of cleanup. An old FB account I started has been hacked; but I can't get it back safely so it will remain FB detritus possibly forever. On the other hand, Twitter offed my account after a certain amount of years of inactivity. I don't watch your "news" so I don't feel the way you do about this at all. Zuckerberg is a brutal dictator for FB. I really don't see how having a different rich guy totally in charge of Twitter instead of a board or group of people makes it better. Odds are it will be made worse. How remains to be seen.
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Post by Value Buy on May 18, 2022 10:28:40 GMT -5
I think if twitter rejects it, it becomes basically a shell company from it former self not unlike so many spac deals and possibly becomes a penny stock. It has been owned by the left since inception, and was a brutal dictatorship. MGMT knows how many bots there were and still are, and it was never as important in the telecommunication internet world as was portrayed by the left because it was basically fake. We all owe Musk a debt of gratitude for exposing this company for what it is. It deserves to die a painful death. I consider it another ENRON. A deck of cards falling apart now. Why is Musk owed gratitude in your opinion? Because he wants to take it private? I feel like you have no clue on how Twitter tracks any account let alone having a belief that mgmt keeps track of the number of bots but does nothing about them. Every giant corp in a similar space has issues and it really depends on their policies and procedures as to how bad it is and how often anything is done about it. On Yahoo email, apparently one account a friend of mine abandoned more than a few people try to spam from it or using headers that are designed to scam. Yahoo is bad about certain kinds of cleanup. An old FB account I started has been hacked; but I can't get it back safely so it will remain FB detritus possibly forever. On the other hand, Twitter offed my account after a certain amount of years of inactivity. I don't watch your "news" so I don't feel the way you do about this at all. Zuckerberg is a brutal dictator for FB. I really don't see how having a different rich guy totally in charge of Twitter instead of a board or group of people makes it better. Odds are it will be made worse. How remains to be seen. Your last sentence. Sounds like you are in favor of a disinformation board for all businesses.
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Post by justme on May 18, 2022 11:01:10 GMT -5
Musk essentially offered to buy Twitter as is. He waived the due diligence part. Which from an article I read is part of reason Twitter added a specific performance clause to the contract which is a rare clause added.
I could be wrong as this is not my area of expertise, but I don't think musk has a much power in the deal as some think he does.
The analogy I've seen is entering a contract to buy a house as is and after everything is signed trying to bully the seller into a lower price.
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Post by laterbloomer on May 18, 2022 11:06:09 GMT -5
The fact that Trump is so desperate to get back on proves it's value as a communication medium. I don't understand what difference the number of bot accounts makes to anything? By the time every other media reports on what is posted there it's reach is endless.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 18, 2022 14:53:45 GMT -5
Why is Musk owed gratitude in your opinion? Because he wants to take it private? I feel like you have no clue on how Twitter tracks any account let alone having a belief that mgmt keeps track of the number of bots but does nothing about them. Every giant corp in a similar space has issues and it really depends on their policies and procedures as to how bad it is and how often anything is done about it. On Yahoo email, apparently one account a friend of mine abandoned more than a few people try to spam from it or using headers that are designed to scam. Yahoo is bad about certain kinds of cleanup. An old FB account I started has been hacked; but I can't get it back safely so it will remain FB detritus possibly forever. On the other hand, Twitter offed my account after a certain amount of years of inactivity. I don't watch your "news" so I don't feel the way you do about this at all. Zuckerberg is a brutal dictator for FB. I really don't see how having a different rich guy totally in charge of Twitter instead of a board or group of people makes it better. Odds are it will be made worse. How remains to be seen. Your last sentence. Sounds like you are in favor of a disinformation board for all businesses. if so, she is in perfect accord with Musk. you DO realize that, right?
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Post by justme on May 18, 2022 14:57:32 GMT -5
The fact that Trump is so desperate to get back on proves it's value as a communication medium. I don't understand what difference the number of bot accounts makes to anything? By the time every other media reports on what is posted there it's reach is endless. I think because of the way musk wants to monetize it. He said the every day user won't ever have to pay, but he wants to charge companies and such. If he charges them by followers or interactions no one is going to stand for it if say a competitor can buy bots and run up your costs. Possibly. Or he has buyers remorse and thinks this is his way out. But he publicly knew there were bots and said part of the reason he wanted to buy was to get rid of bots so I'm not so sure his bots argument is good.
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Post by Value Buy on May 18, 2022 16:01:24 GMT -5
This is how tweets get traction on Twitter by being shown as "trending on Twitter" and real accounts start following the trending tweets.
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Post by Opti on May 18, 2022 17:34:39 GMT -5
www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/elon-musk-may-never-be-able-to-kick-bots-off-twitter/ar-AAXqTiz?ocid=uxbndlbingNot all bots are bad bots, either. Even Sweeney’s bot simply used publicly available information to track Musk’s flights. In fact, Twitter purposely makes it easy to create bots using an API, or application programming interface. Using an API, users can create bots that tell you the weather or how your favorite baseball team is doing.
“Some bots are designed specifically for malicious purposes, but in general bots are neither good nor bad,” explained Ari Lightman, professor of digital media and marketing at Carnegie Mellon University’s Heinz College.
“Twitter for a long period of time has had things like amplification bots, messaging bots, magnitude bots,” Lightman said. “These are all bots designed to either accelerate a message, amplify a message, send out a message at a routine time, those sorts of things.”
The problem is that malicious actors often figure out ways to use bots to spread disinformation, or scam and harass other Twitter users.
But what if Twitter decided to just stop offering APIs for bots? Wouldn’t that go a long way toward ending the malicious bot problem? Not necessarily. See, Twitter’s API makes it easy for users to create bots. However, scammers have other ways to create bots.
They can hijack existing user accounts or use a web browser to automate bot behaviors. It certainly takes more effort than a standard API-based bot, but experienced cybercriminals and disinformation specialists can definitely pull it off, creating phony accounts they can easily control.
“As long as there's a financial incentive, there will be bots,” said NYU Tandon School of Engineering associate professor Damon McCoy.
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Post by Opti on May 18, 2022 17:43:34 GMT -5
Why is Musk owed gratitude in your opinion? Because he wants to take it private? I feel like you have no clue on how Twitter tracks any account let alone having a belief that mgmt keeps track of the number of bots but does nothing about them. Every giant corp in a similar space has issues and it really depends on their policies and procedures as to how bad it is and how often anything is done about it. On Yahoo email, apparently one account a friend of mine abandoned more than a few people try to spam from it or using headers that are designed to scam. Yahoo is bad about certain kinds of cleanup. An old FB account I started has been hacked; but I can't get it back safely so it will remain FB detritus possibly forever. On the other hand, Twitter offed my account after a certain amount of years of inactivity. I don't watch your "news" so I don't feel the way you do about this at all. Zuckerberg is a brutal dictator for FB. I really don't see how having a different rich guy totally in charge of Twitter instead of a board or group of people makes it better. Odds are it will be made worse. How remains to be seen. Your last sentence. Sounds like you are in favor of a disinformation board for all businesses. How remains to be seen.
Just because you believe Musk is going to save Twitter from bots and whatever else, what does that have to do with my last sentence? Even the last two? Letting Trump back on would not combat disinformation, so I doubt Elon's sincerity on that count. Per the article I posted, bots can do anything. Its more than possible that news organizations possibly from around the world have bots that send them Tweets instead of having live people constantly check looking for something interesting. And there's bots like that one kid set up to track Elon's planes.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 18, 2022 18:26:16 GMT -5
who cares if half Biden's re-Tweets are fake? only Twitiots care. i am sure the same wast true of Trump's re-Tweets. and again, who cares?
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on May 18, 2022 20:24:07 GMT -5
I was such a Tesla fan, even though musk can be an ass. Likely most ceos are asses. Likely most ceos voted republican, at least up until 2016.
But I honestly don’t know what the fuck is going on with musk. He’s a smart guy, and he is literally making no sense.
The only thing that I can figure out is someone of a democratic nature made him butt hurt over something, and he can obviously spend billions of dollars and all this time on his revenge.
Seriously, go in the little curtained table and vote GOP. Who cares? Obviously that isn’t what he wants, he thinks his grandstanding is gonna make something happen. Maybe it will, who knows?
Seriously rethinking my Tesla plans. I can’t be the only one. He could loudly proclaim he’s voting libertarian. But no, he specifically says GOP, who are trampling voting and woman’s rights all over the place.
Seriously fuck you elon. Piece of shit really.
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Post by irishpad on May 18, 2022 21:39:34 GMT -5
Elon was complaining about California's government because both the legislative and executive branches are controlled by one party, saying that doesn't make good for good government. So instead of building a Tesla plant in California, he will build it in Texas. Yeah, like that is a bipartisan state. Real reason, which he also complains about, is that there are more environmental requirements in California. He would rather run a cheap plant not caring about the effects on the environment, imo. Don't use the non-bipartisan thing as an excuse.
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Post by Opti on May 18, 2022 22:42:40 GMT -5
Elon was complaining about California's government because both the legislative and executive branches are controlled by one party, saying that doesn't make good for good government. So instead of building a Tesla plant in California, he will build it in Texas. Yeah, like that is a bipartisan state. Real reason, which he also complains about, is that there are more environmental requirements in California. He would rather run a cheap plant not caring about the effects on the environment, imo. Don't use the non-bipartisan thing as an excuse. I pretty much thought he was voting GOP ever since he decided to build that factory in Texas. Not sure why he thinks that was a big reveal.
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Post by justme on May 18, 2022 22:58:13 GMT -5
I was such a Tesla fan, even though musk can be an ass. Likely most ceos are asses. Likely most ceos voted republican, at least up until 2016. But I honestly don’t know what the fuck is going on with musk. He’s a smart guy, and he is literally making no sense. The only thing that I can figure out is someone of a democratic nature made him butt hurt over something, and he can obviously spend billions of dollars and all this time on his revenge. Seriously, go in the little curtained table and vote GOP. Who cares? Obviously that isn’t what he wants, he thinks his grandstanding is gonna make something happen. Maybe it will, who knows? Seriously rethinking my Tesla plans. I can’t be the only one. He could loudly proclaim he’s voting libertarian. But no, he specifically says GOP, who are trampling voting and woman’s rights all over the place. Seriously fuck you elon. Piece of shit really. I don't know if it's because I'm in Florida so have heard a lot of space x stuff, but I've known musk to be special for a while. I feel like if you paid attention to him before hand it probably would show. Just remember him losing his shit about them not letting him around for the launch with him testing positive for covid. Among other things. I'm not surprised at all how he's acting with Twitter. I don't pay enough attention, but I wonder how much it's luck if him being in the right space vs his own smarts.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 18, 2022 22:59:45 GMT -5
I was such a Tesla fan, even though musk can be an ass. Likely most ceos are asses. Likely most ceos voted republican, at least up until 2016. But I honestly don’t know what the fuck is going on with musk. He’s a smart guy, and he is literally making no sense. The only thing that I can figure out is someone of a democratic nature made him butt hurt over something, and he can obviously spend billions of dollars and all this time on his revenge. Seriously, go in the little curtained table and vote GOP. Who cares? Obviously that isn’t what he wants, he thinks his grandstanding is gonna make something happen. Maybe it will, who knows? Seriously rethinking my Tesla plans. I can’t be the only one. He could loudly proclaim he’s voting libertarian. But no, he specifically says GOP, who are trampling voting and woman’s rights all over the place. Seriously fuck you elon. Piece of shit really. he's an anti-worker neofascist. i watched him very carefully after he took over the Numi plant. he cut every corner, pissed everyone off, and fled to Texas. he is a complete asshole. the only one he give s fuck about is Elon Musk. just like Trump. but scarier.
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Post by NastyWoman on May 19, 2022 2:28:09 GMT -5
Ultra MAGA King? A precedent has been set and I believe we can now use any nickname we like lime the Ultimate Grifting Orange Abomination or UGOA leader of a weirdly large cult of ALs
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Post by happyhoix on May 19, 2022 7:00:15 GMT -5
Musk said he used to vote Dem because he thought it was the party of ‘niceness’ but now the Dems are being mean to him so he’ll only vote GOP now.
Doesn’t seem like he’s a deep thinker on politics. Just another quasi celeb who thinks we should care about his political views.
Meh. I put him in the same basket with the Kardashians.
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Post by Value Buy on May 19, 2022 9:24:40 GMT -5
Musk said he used to vote Dem because he thought it was the party of ‘niceness’ but now the Dems are being mean to him so he’ll only vote GOP now. Doesn’t seem like he’s a deep thinker on politics. Just another quasi celeb who thinks we should care about his political views. Meh. I put him in the same basket with the Kardashians. Yep, now add a few million democat voters all across the country thinking like he is.
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Post by Value Buy on May 19, 2022 9:28:21 GMT -5
And today Elon complained Tesla was dropped off the list from the S&P 500 most eco friendly companies list. Guess who was added to it? Exxon Mobil. I am ok with this. I own a few hundred shares of XOM and when millions of snowflakes drive this stock up another 50% I might sell it at a resounding profit!
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