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Post by ripvanwinkle on May 10, 2022 0:44:24 GMT -5
I'm a little late to the party and I haven't seen a thread on this but I just saw the protest demonstration on tv in front of the SCOTUS judges home. The reporter wrapped up her report by saying that there is a federal and state law against intimidating a judge, juror, officer of the court etc. To me this protest falls into that category. I wonder if it gets out of hand if anyone will be arrested on this law.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 10, 2022 6:20:18 GMT -5
Do you feel the same way about the protesters in front of Women’s clinics. You know the ones who hurl obscenities and threats at the workers doing their jobs. Because the Supreme Court has defended their right to be their. Maybe they should get a taste of what these people go through. Physicians have been killed by these people. The justices may be uncomfortable
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Post by wvugurl26 on May 10, 2022 7:13:00 GMT -5
The Supreme Court overturned a law that created a 35 foot buffer around clinics. That infringed on free speech. What a surprise they don't like it when the tables are flipped. It's a race to the freaking bottom with these people. They don't like their status being threatened so they are trying to put women back where they think they belong.
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Post by scgal on May 10, 2022 8:00:31 GMT -5
Do you feel the same way about the protesters in front of Women’s clinics. You know the ones who hurl obscenities and threats at the workers doing their jobs. Because the Supreme Court has defended their right to be their. Maybe they should get a taste of what these people go through. Physicians have been killed by these people. The justices may be uncomfortable The clinics is fair game it is where they work. I don't think the dr. houses should be protested at.
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Post by wvugurl26 on May 10, 2022 8:03:03 GMT -5
People should not be harassed or threatened at work. That's absurd. It's not your body, mind your own damn business.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 10, 2022 8:08:46 GMT -5
Yet they are. The Supreme Court allowed it, and conservative anti abortion groups encourage it
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 10, 2022 8:10:21 GMT -5
Conservatives like to point out when liberals go beyond what they feel is right. Yet they do not like it when they are criticized
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Post by wvugurl26 on May 10, 2022 8:11:45 GMT -5
Well obviously they don't want to be harassed at work because they put a fence up around the Supreme Court. So apparently it's okay for others to be harassed at work but not them.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 10, 2022 10:41:20 GMT -5
Do you feel the same way about the protesters in front of Women’s clinics. You know the ones who hurl obscenities and threats at the workers doing their jobs. Because the Supreme Court has defended their right to be their. Maybe they should get a taste of what these people go through. Physicians have been killed by these people. The justices may be uncomfortable
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Post by Tennesseer on May 10, 2022 10:43:02 GMT -5
Rip must have watched Ted Cruz on Fox's Hannity show last night.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 10, 2022 10:53:00 GMT -5
Do you feel the same way about the protesters in front of Women’s clinics. You know the ones who hurl obscenities and threats at the workers doing their jobs. Because the Supreme Court has defended their right to be their. Maybe they should get a taste of what these people go through. Physicians have been killed by these people. The justices may be uncomfortable The clinics is fair game it is where they work. I don't think the dr. houses should be protested at. But it does happen. For example: Anti-abortion group protests at home of Hoag doour.
A week after demonstrations for and against Hoag Hospital’s decision to no longer offer elective abortions, a group of anti-abortion protesters gathered in Newport Beach at the Dover Shores home of Hoag obstetrician Dr. Richard Agnew on Thursday, carrying signs, shouting and chalking messages on the sidewalk and street. Agnew’s wife Katharine said she heard noises coming from outside her home sometime between 7 and 8 p.m. and received a phone call from a neighbor, alerting her that a group of 50 to 100 people was on the sidewalk, in the street and even on her front lawn. Agnew said the protesters looked very young. It couldn’t immediately be determined what group, if any, the protesters are a part of. Agnew, who was in bed recovering from a recent surgery, immediately called the police. “It was frightening,” she said. “They were yelling things like ‘Abortionist!’ and ‘This house was built on blood!’ It’s very disturbing that they would come to the house.” When police arrived, Agnew thought about turning on the sprinklers in an effort to move the crowd back, but police warned her not to agitate them. Police dispersed the crowd, but said they did not file any trespassing or vandalism charges. The city later sent workers out to remove the chalk messages. Agnew said that her husband had been delivering babies for 50 years and explained that they are both abortion rights supporters. She added that her and her husband were both very disappointed in Hoag’s decision to no longer offer elective abortions and that she believed it was his outspoken opposition to the decision that prompted the protest. Anti-abortion group protests at home of Hoag doour
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Post by Tennesseer on May 10, 2022 11:52:00 GMT -5
Do you feel the same way about the protesters in front of Women’s clinics. You know the ones who hurl obscenities and threats at the workers doing their jobs. Because the Supreme Court has defended their right to be their. Maybe they should get a taste of what these people go through. Physicians have been killed by these people. The justices may be uncomfortable The clinics is fair game it is where they work. I don't think the dr. houses should be protested at. A Brief History of Deadly Attacks on Abortion ProvidersThe fatal shooting of three people at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs on Friday was the latest incident in a long history of violent attacks on facilities or doctors providing abortions in the United States and Canada. At least 11 people have been killed in attacks on abortion clinics in the United States since 1993, including the Colorado attack. The most recent victims were Garrett Swasey, a police officer at the University of Colorado - Colorado Springs and a part-time church pastor; Ke’Arre M. Stewart, a former Army specialist who served in Iraq; and Jennifer Markovsky, a woman from Hawaii who was at the clinic with a friend. Authorities identified the gunman in the attack as Robert L. Dear Jr., saying that he opened fire with an assault-style rifle at the facility, setting off an hourslong standoff and gun battle that also wounded nine people. The police have not described the gunman’s motive, but authorities said that he spoke of “no more baby parts” in a rambling interview after his arrest. Here is a brief look at the history of deadly violence against abortion clinics, their staff members, patients and their guests in the United States and Canada. The First Abortion Doctor Killed: David GunnDr. David Gunn was shot and killed by an opponent of abortion during a protest outside his clinic in Pensacola, Fla. His death was the first known killing of an abortion provider in the United States, according to the National Abortion Federation, an advocacy group. The gunman, Michael F. Griffin, shot Dr. Gunn three times in the back as he approached the rear entrance of the clinic, and Mr. Griffin turned himself over to the police just moments later, telling them, “I’ve just shot Dr. Gunn.” Mr. Griffin was convicted of the murder in March 1994 and was sentenced to life in prison. The murder of Dr. Gunn was not the first time that Pensacola had been the site of anti-abortion violence, and it would not be the last. On Christmas Day in 1984, two doctors’ offices and a clinic were bombed by opponents of abortion who were later arrested, convicted and jailed. Rest of list in linked article: A Brief History of Deadly Attacks on Abortion Providers
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Post by Tiny on May 10, 2022 12:12:06 GMT -5
I'm a little late to the party and I haven't seen a thread on this but I just saw the protest demonstration on tv in front of the SCOTUS judges home. The reporter wrapped up her report by saying that there is a federal and state law against intimidating a judge, juror, officer of the court etc. To me this protest falls into that category. I wonder if it gets out of hand if anyone will be arrested on this law. Meh. A bunch of gun toting "very fine people" protested outside a Secretary of State's home (they wanted her to overthrow their state's election results) and nothing came from that. If people with guns can threaten elected official with no repercussions, I'm sure there won't be any repercussions for these protests (and I bet none of them guns....)
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Post by djAdvocate on May 10, 2022 12:46:23 GMT -5
Do you feel the same way about the protesters in front of Women’s clinics. You know the ones who hurl obscenities and threats at the workers doing their jobs. Because the Supreme Court has defended their right to be their. Maybe they should get a taste of what these people go through. Physicians have been killed by these people. The justices may be uncomfortable The clinics is fair game it is where they work. I don't think the dr. houses should be protested at. why is it fair game being where they WORK? i don't accept unruly mobs assaulting and intimidating me at work. why should you or anyone else?
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Post by djAdvocate on May 10, 2022 12:50:25 GMT -5
the behavior of abortion radicals could rightly be called terrorism. if RvW is overturned, this is yet another example of how effective terrorism is. and to all of those abortionist killers who acted as martyrs for the cause, you can now add yourself to the 19 airplane bombers on 911 and the pantheon of others and collect your virgins. PS- if you don't like the analogy, that is just too fucking bad.
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Post by pooks on May 10, 2022 12:58:26 GMT -5
Yeah I don't think I care at all. I think Amy Coney Barrett should have to listen to the horror her ruling will reap for the rest of her life every time she steps out of her door and goes anywhere.
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Post by scgal on May 10, 2022 14:17:29 GMT -5
The clinics is fair game it is where they work. I don't think the dr. houses should be protested at. why is it fair game being where they WORK? i don't accept unruly mobs assaulting and intimidating me at work. why should you or anyone else? The procedure at the clinic is what is being protested. The same with the supreme court if people want to protest an issue it should be at the supreme court building. Not take it to their home and families. I also believe this is true to workers at abortion clinics their homes should be off limits.
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Post by wvugurl26 on May 10, 2022 14:28:07 GMT -5
And why does anyone think they have a right to protest a medical procedure? If it's not your body, its none of your damn business. You don't have a right to force your opinion on this matter onto everyone else. What is right for you personally is not a one size fits all for every other women in the country.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 10, 2022 15:11:15 GMT -5
why is it fair game being where they WORK? i don't accept unruly mobs assaulting and intimidating me at work. why should you or anyone else? The procedure at the clinic is what is being protested. The same with the supreme court if people want to protest an issue it should be at the supreme court building. Not take it to their home and families. I also believe this is true to workers at abortion clinics their homes should be off limits. i spend more time at work than home. i would actually appreciate it if they would protest my home, where i keep my guns and will gladly use them against intruders, rather than work, where guns are not permitted.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 10, 2022 15:11:44 GMT -5
It's just tourism I don't see what the big deal is.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 10, 2022 16:26:59 GMT -5
why is it fair game being where they WORK? i don't accept unruly mobs assaulting and intimidating me at work. why should you or anyone else? The procedure at the clinic is what is being protested. The same with the supreme court if people want to protest an issue it should be at the supreme court building. Not take it to their home and families. I also believe this is true to workers at abortion clinics their homes should be off limits. Can you tell me the difference between the protest outside an abortion clinic (picture #1) and picture #2 which is what the U.S. Supreme Court building looks like today?
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Post by thyme4change on May 11, 2022 15:17:14 GMT -5
Aren't we about to bounce "privacy" as a constitutional right?
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Post by djAdvocate on May 11, 2022 15:48:26 GMT -5
Aren't we about to bounce "privacy" as a constitutional right? there is actually no constitutional right to privacy. without RvW, the CONCEPT of such a right, and the possible defense of it, is out the window, imo.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 11, 2022 16:01:35 GMT -5
Say goodbye to Griswold vs Connecticut then. Hope everyone enjoyed being able to control fertility.
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Post by thyme4change on May 11, 2022 16:05:00 GMT -5
Say goodbye to Griswold vs Connecticut then. Hope everyone enjoyed being able to control fertility. At least the domestic supply of infants will be robust.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 11, 2022 16:06:48 GMT -5
make no mistake, ALL of these unprotected rights are under assault. and the right is in ascendance. who would ever have thought that we could elect a neo-facist president?
ok, never mind. i did. i have been worrying about it since Reagan uttered his infamous words:
"Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem."
that began a 40 year slide downhill to where we are today.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 11, 2022 16:07:19 GMT -5
Say goodbye to Griswold vs Connecticut then. Hope everyone enjoyed being able to control fertility. At least the domestic supply of infants will be robust. where is Johnathan Swift when you need him?
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 11, 2022 16:25:18 GMT -5
Say goodbye to Griswold vs Connecticut then. Hope everyone enjoyed being able to control fertility. At least the domestic supply of infants will be robust. And the right wing will gladly pay more in taxes to support the non-white infants who are not adopted. They are so willing to support other people's children. They never complain about the school budget, property taxes, welfare, food stamps, etc.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 11, 2022 16:54:17 GMT -5
At least the domestic supply of infants will be robust. And the right wing will gladly pay more in taxes to support the non-white infants who are not adopted. They are so willing to support other people's children. They never complain about the school budget, property taxes, welfare, food stamps, etc. Well as I've heard and read on the boards if you can't afford kids keep your legs closed. Only heterosexual married Cis good evangelical couples can have sex. As the good Lord intended. It's funny in a cosmic way because if you know anything about history those very same people were pro birth control and abortion for the exact same reason. Limiting minorities and upping the number of white babies.
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