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Post by Tennesseer on May 9, 2022 22:53:11 GMT -5
Ol' Bone Spurs was in charge, eh? Trump Claims He Was 'Running Military' Alone. Twitter Critics Go Defcon 1In a jaw-dropping statement, Donald Trump insisted he “had to run the military” when he was president because Defense Secretary Mark Esper was so “weak.” Trump made the claim in response to an explosive “60 Minutes” interview with Esper, who recounted that he and other military officials had to repeatedly “swat down” Trump’s “dangerous” ideas every few weeks when he was in the White House. Esper said the former president suggested secretly firing missiles into Mexico to destroy drug labs and wanted military troops to shoot racial justice protesters who took to the streets after the police killing of George Floyd. The former defense secretary also shared that he and other officials helped prevent “really bad things, dangerous things” in the Trump administration “that could have taken the country in a dark direction.” In a statement that “60 Minutes” shared on Twitter on Sunday, Trump denied a number of Esper’s claims but notably declined to comment on the plan to hit Mexico with missiles. “Mark Esper was weak and totally ineffective, and because of it, I had to run the military,” the Trump statement reads. Critics immediately pointed out that Trump had never even served in the military, claiming a medical deferment for “bone spurs” that his former attorney Michael Cohen said were fake. As president, Trump also tried to defund the military and sought to undermine NATO. He once told radio host Howard Stern that his own “personal Vietnam” was avoiding sexually transmitted diseases while sleeping with various women. Stern quipped that Trump had characterized “vaginas” as “potential landmines.” Rest of article here: Trump Claims He Was 'Running Military' Alone. Twitter Critics Go Defcon 1
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Post by happyhoix on May 10, 2022 8:58:31 GMT -5
I think Trump was running the military in the same way my husband believes he mops the floor.
A vague but limited awareness of the concept, but someone else is actually doing the work.
At least DH has the good grace to admit he sucks at mopping the floor.
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Post by busymom on May 10, 2022 10:26:41 GMT -5
Remember, you're talking about a former president who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. At everything. Including things in which he has no experience. It must be nice to live in an imaginary kingdom.
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Post by Opti on May 10, 2022 10:30:41 GMT -5
It's weird he thinks people will believe that. I wonder what he thinks he did to run the military or whether it is one of his usual lies made to puff himself up.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 10, 2022 10:37:57 GMT -5
It's weird he thinks people will believe that. I wonder what he thinks he did to run the military or whether it is one of his usual lies made to puff himself up. trump knows many of his followers will believe it which is why he makes claims such as running the military all by himself.
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Post by happyhoix on May 10, 2022 11:05:01 GMT -5
I read a little about Espers book on Trump, where he described the meeting where Trump ranted at them (can’t remember about what). Esper said it was incredibly painful.
He also complained our battle ships were ugly compared to Russian ships. (No gold plating I’m guessing).
Trump is lucky a military person didn’t accidentally on purpose push him overboard.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 10, 2022 12:13:48 GMT -5
Esper says Trump wanted to reactivate McChrystal, McRaven to court martial them over criticism
Former Defense Secretary Mark Esper says in a new memoir released Tuesday that former President Trump wanted to reactivate a retired Navy admiral and a former general so he could court martial them over their criticism of him. Esper, Trump and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mark Milley attended a meeting in May 2020 regarding former Navy Admiral William H. McRaven and former Gen. Stan McChrystal — and Trump’s frustrations with them, according to Esper’s “A Sacred Oath: Memoirs of a Secretary of Defense During Extraordinary Times,” which was obtained reported by Talking Points Memo. Esper wrote that “the president told Milley and me that he ‘want[ed] to call them back to active duty and court-martial them’ for what they said,” “Mark Milley and I were sitting in front of the president trying to talk him out of recalling McChrystal to active duty,” he added. “So disloyal,” Trump allegedly complained. He backed off from his threats, Esper wrote, following a promise from Milley “that he would personally call the officers and ask them to dial it back.” Esper noted that right-wing news outlets had been reporting at the time that the Democratic Party was being advised by McChrystal on fighting Trump’s reelection through the use of artificial intelligence technology, which the former Defense secretary said “spun up the president.” Rest of article here: Esper says Trump wanted to reactivate McChrystal, McRaven to court martial them over criticism
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Post by djAdvocate on May 10, 2022 12:54:05 GMT -5
It's weird he thinks people will believe that. I wonder what he thinks he did to run the military or whether it is one of his usual lies made to puff himself up. trump knows many of his followers will believe it which is why he makes claims such as running the military all by himself. what Tenn said. they will believe it because he said it.
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Post by tbop77 on May 11, 2022 5:31:09 GMT -5
Ol' Bone Spurs was in charge, eh? Trump Claims He Was 'Running Military' Alone. Twitter Critics Go Defcon 1In a jaw-dropping statement, Donald Trump insisted he “had to run the military” when he was president because Defense Secretary Mark Esper was so “weak.” Trump made the claim in response to an explosive “60 Minutes” interview with Esper, who recounted that he and other military officials had to repeatedly “swat down” Trump’s “dangerous” ideas every few weeks when he was in the White House. Esper said the former president suggested secretly firing missiles into Mexico to destroy drug labs and wanted military troops to shoot racial justice protesters who took to the streets after the police killing of George Floyd. The former defense secretary also shared that he and other officials helped prevent “really bad things, dangerous things” in the Trump administration “that could have taken the country in a dark direction.” In a statement that “60 Minutes” shared on Twitter on Sunday, Trump denied a number of Esper’s claims but notably declined to comment on the plan to hit Mexico with missiles. “Mark Esper was weak and totally ineffective, and because of it, I had to run the military,” the Trump statement reads. Critics immediately pointed out that Trump had never even served in the military, claiming a medical deferment for “bone spurs” that his former attorney Michael Cohen said were fake. As president, Trump also tried to defund the military and sought to undermine NATO. He once told radio host Howard Stern that his own “personal Vietnam” was avoiding sexually transmitted diseases while sleeping with various women. Stern quipped that Trump had characterized “vaginas” as “potential landmines.” Rest of article here: Trump Claims He Was 'Running Military' Alone. Twitter Critics Go Defcon 1 I love to start my day with a laugh. I thought he only hired the best!
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Post by Opti on May 11, 2022 12:08:40 GMT -5
trump knows many of his followers will believe it which is why he makes claims such as running the military all by himself. what Tenn said. they will believe it because he said it. I just find it surprising that anyone can believe any President is running the military. Maybe if they were a former high up general? Trump true believers make the ridiculous Obama phone peeps look like pikers.
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Post by thyme4change on May 11, 2022 15:21:11 GMT -5
Ol' Bone Spurs was in charge, eh? Trump Claims He Was 'Running Military' Alone. Twitter Critics Go Defcon 1In a jaw-dropping statement, Donald Trump insisted he “had to run the military” when he was president because Defense Secretary Mark Esper was so “weak.” What a jackass.
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Post by tallguy on May 11, 2022 15:39:20 GMT -5
trump knows many of his followers will believe it which is why he makes claims such as running the military all by himself. what Tenn said. they will believe it because he said it. One has to give Trump "believers" an incredible benefit of the doubt just to think they are merely mind-numbingly gullible and stupid rather than vile, un-American, undemocratic, racist, and white nationalist/supremacist. For whatever reason they hang on every word from the biggest liar and likely dumbest person ever in office, who cares about them only to the limit he can exploit them for his own purposes. Unbelievable.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 11, 2022 15:50:49 GMT -5
i can't help thinking of this when reading the title of the thread:
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Post by Opti on May 11, 2022 18:12:44 GMT -5
Tenn, the above might make a great thread even if no one replies to it.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 11, 2022 19:09:02 GMT -5
Tenn, the above might make a great thread even if no one replies to it.
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