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Post by billisonboard on Apr 9, 2022 12:03:38 GMT -5
Something that is equally (more?) scary to me is if Trump gains the Republican nomination but then loses the general election again. That is what bothers me most reading what Value Buy posts.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 9, 2022 17:47:31 GMT -5
Something that is equally (more?) scary to me is if Trump gains the Republican nomination but then loses the general election again. That is what bothers me most reading what Value Buy posts. that is what i was trying to imply in my post. he is absolutely going to claim he won, no matter what. no matter how bad he loses. so, when he does that, he will attempt another coup. and this one is FAR more likely to succeed. last one was just a trial balloon.
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Post by dondub on Apr 9, 2022 18:36:06 GMT -5
he was not terribly successful in his coup last time. he has nearly half of congress behind him this time. it is clear that he will not allow democratic governance going forward. he will not respect the two term limit. who should they? he feels he is "owed" another term, in addition to the next one that he doesn't win. in other words, we become an authoritarian state, like many other authoritarian states throughout history, and with similar fates: horrendous. once the constitution is destroyed, what puts it back into place? I really wish Value Buy will respond to my question. Fat chance. He’s ‘hiding’.
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Post by tbop77 on Apr 10, 2022 7:24:55 GMT -5
this country is doomed if Trump gets elected. if ANY OTHER REPUBLICAN gets elected, i am more optimistic. I am hoping Trump does not run. Four more years of democratic hysteria will doom our Republic/Democracy. Please do explain. I'd love to hear what exactly you mean.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 10, 2022 8:50:28 GMT -5
Ubu Roi. i am telling you.
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Post by Opti on Apr 10, 2022 11:26:28 GMT -5
I guess they love the way he lies and misuses God.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 10, 2022 11:49:04 GMT -5
I guess they love the way he lies and misuses God. Ukraine war is testing evangelicals’ love of Putin as a conservative heroIn February 2022, evangelical leader Franklin Graham called on his followers to pray for Vladimir Putin. His tweet acknowledged that it might seem a "strange request" given that Russia was clearly about to invade Ukraine. But Graham asked that believers "pray that God would work in his heart so that war could be avoided at all cost." The backlash was fast and direct. Graham had not solicited prayers for Ukraine, some observers commented. And he had rarely called on believers to pray for President Joe Biden. A significant subset of the U.S. evangelical community, particularly white conservatives, has been developing a political and emotional alliance with Russia for almost 20 years. Those American believers, including prominent figures such as Graham and Jay Sekulow of the American Center for Law and Justice, see Russia, Putin and the Russian Orthodox Church as protectors of the faith, standing against attacks on "traditional" and "family" values. At the center is Russia's spate of anti-LGBTQ laws, which have become a model for some anti-trans and anti-gay legislation in the U.S. Now, with Russia bombing churches and destroying cities in Ukraine, the most Protestant of the former Soviet Republics, American evangelical communities are divided. Most oppose Russia's actions, especially because there is a strong evangelical church in Ukraine that is receiving attention and prayers from a range of evangelical leaders. Nonetheless, a small group of the most conservative American evangelicals cannot quite break up with their long-term ally. The enthusiasm for Russia is embodied by Graham, who in 2015 famously visited Moscow, where he had a warm meeting with Putin. On that trip, Putin reportedly explained that his mother had kept her Christian faith even under Communist rule. Graham in turn praised Putin for his support of Orthodox Christianity, contrasting Russia's "positive changes" with the rise of "atheistic secularism" in the U.S. But it was not always so. Once upon a time, American evangelicals saw the Soviet Union and other communist countries as the world's greatest threat to their faith. They carried out dramatic and illegal activities, smuggling Bibles and other Christian literature across borders. And yet, today, Russia, still a country with low church attendance and little government tolerance for Protestant evangelism, has become a symbol of the conservative values that some American evangelicals proclaim. Complete article here: Ukraine war is testing evangelicals’ love of Putin as a conservative hero
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 8, 2022 9:19:34 GMT -5
What Fox does best compared to CNN and MSNBC is not play the race card 24/7 or still push Russian collusion hysteria, as members here tend to play that game also. America is watching and listening. Fox also doesn't cover live news as it happens. Fox News Chooses Tucker Carlson Over Jan. 6 Hearing, Drawing Backlash(Bloomberg) -- Fox News won’t show continuous live coverage of Thursday’s first televised hearing into the deadly attack on the US Capitol, putting the conservative news outlet at odds with its competitors. Fox News said on Monday it will cover the hearings that begin at 8 p.m. New York time “as news warrants” on its flagship news channel. Fox News will offer special coverage beginning at 11 p.m., after its regular schedule of primetime shows by hosts Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham. Live coverage will be relegated to other platforms like the Fox News website, Fox News Audio and Fox Business Network. Rival networks plan to interrupt their primetime lineups for the hearings. CBS and ABC will air the proceedings live, according to network representatives. NBC will offer live coverage on its cable news channel, MSNBC, and its streaming service, Peacock, and special coverage on its network channel. Fox News’ decision has drawn criticism online, including from lawmakers. US Representative Adam Kinzinger, one of two Republicans on the House select committee investigating the attack, tweeted last night that Fox News employees who want to maintain credibility as journalists should “speak out, or quit. Enough is enough.” Members of rival media networks as well as prominent Democrats, including Hillary Clinton and Representative Steve Cohen of Tennessee, also criticized Fox. A Fox News Media spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment. Fox News Chooses Tucker Carlson Over Jan. 6 Hearing, Drawing Backlash
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Post by happyhoix on Jun 8, 2022 13:15:24 GMT -5
What Fox does best compared to CNN and MSNBC is not play the race card 24/7 or still push Russian collusion hysteria, as members here tend to play that game also. America is watching and listening. Fox also doesn't cover live news as it happens. Fox News Chooses Tucker Carlson Over Jan. 6 Hearing, Drawing Backlash(Bloomberg) -- Fox News won’t show continuous live coverage of Thursday’s first televised hearing into the deadly attack on the US Capitol, putting the conservative news outlet at odds with its competitors. Fox News said on Monday it will cover the hearings that begin at 8 p.m. New York time “as news warrants” on its flagship news channel. Fox News will offer special coverage beginning at 11 p.m., after its regular schedule of primetime shows by hosts Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham. Live coverage will be relegated to other platforms like the Fox News website, Fox News Audio and Fox Business Network. Rival networks plan to interrupt their primetime lineups for the hearings. CBS and ABC will air the proceedings live, according to network representatives. NBC will offer live coverage on its cable news channel, MSNBC, and its streaming service, Peacock, and special coverage on its network channel. Fox News’ decision has drawn criticism online, including from lawmakers. US Representative Adam Kinzinger, one of two Republicans on the House select committee investigating the attack, tweeted last night that Fox News employees who want to maintain credibility as journalists should “speak out, or quit. Enough is enough.” Members of rival media networks as well as prominent Democrats, including Hillary Clinton and Representative Steve Cohen of Tennessee, also criticized Fox. A Fox News Media spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment. Fox News Chooses Tucker Carlson Over Jan. 6 Hearing, Drawing BacklashI read a Salon article about this today. Remember after the 2020 election when Fox briefly played at being a real news channel and reported that Trump lost, and Trump had a screaming melt down and told his minions to only watch NewsMax ? Well, they did, and for a few days, News Max had more viewers than Fox did. Fox executives had melt downs and decided to let loose the far right hysterics like Tucker Carlson, and also to make sure they only spouted the MAGA line. Consequently people who only watch Fox, like my MIL, have no idea the Jan 6 committee exists, and they certainly won’t hear a peep about it tomorrow on the fair and balanced network, except maybe if one of the MAGA parrots squawk about a witch hunt.
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Post by Tiny on Jun 8, 2022 14:08:31 GMT -5
Wait, are you all assuming that Tucker Carlson won't be talking about the Jan. 6th Hearing Fox is not showing coverage of? Isn't this a prime opportunity to spread more anger and fear about the Democrats/Biden/how America is in dire trouble! The people watching his show will ONLY HAVE HIS WORD to take... he is spouting their first line of 'news'....
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 13, 2022 12:21:19 GMT -5
EVEN IF FOX WAS RIGHT, this is still NEWS. they should cover it, even if they think it is "fake".
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Post by happyhoix on Jun 21, 2022 18:13:31 GMT -5
I agree, VB, Fox is CRUSHING it with the sixty eight year old white conservative male viewers.
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 21, 2022 18:38:06 GMT -5
With an audience given the option of all those organizations, it would actually be more difficult for any one to individually beat Fox Cable's 3 million Jan. 6 Committee Hearing, ABC, 5.22 million. Jan. 6 Committee Hearing (9-10 p.m.),MSNBC, 4.42 million. Jan. 6 Committee Hearing (8-9 p.m.), MSNBC, 4.19 million. Jan. 6 Committee Hearing, NBC, 3.696 million. Jan. 6 Committee Hearing, CBS, 3.49 million link But look how many individually do beat them.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 21, 2022 18:55:09 GMT -5
it is a shame they are using cable to broadcast this. such an antiquated system.
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Post by happyhoix on Jun 21, 2022 20:35:42 GMT -5
I noticed, once again, most of the people testifying were Republicans. Who voted for Trump. Much easier to shrug off whacko dems and their witch hunts.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 21, 2022 21:53:31 GMT -5
this thing should be a miniseries. it is sinister good in terms of how it is being orchestrated. sinister good.
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Post by tbop77 on Jun 22, 2022 5:38:44 GMT -5
I'm less worried about Fox News than I am thrilled that the American public is finding out how rotten to the core the Republican party is. Really, how can they cover this? Peloski outplayed them by not letting loudmouths on the committee whose only goal was to disrupt their findings. They can't claim partisanship when all the people that are testifying are...Republicans. Oh, but still they try: "One of the things that stands out to me, John, just in terms of the political landscape here, is that A., there is no opposition questioning," MacCallum said. "And I think that most of these people would hold up quite well under it, probably, but I think that it would lend a little bit more credibility to it to have someone in that room saying, 'Yes, but what about this? What about that?' But we're not getting that in this current environment." www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-news-host-says-january-6-committee-testimony-is-not-not-truthful-and-could-be-used-in-campaign-ads/ar-AAYIm9R?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b69db7dd48b1496eae6e44c2d32de3b0
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Post by tbop77 on Jun 22, 2022 6:27:16 GMT -5
I noticed, once again, most of the people testifying were Republicans. Who voted for Trump. Much easier to shrug off whacko dems and their witch hunts. Did Fox News report on the few that stood up and didn't let Trump and his thugs shit on the constitution only to have their lives threatened? And he calls himself the LAW AND ORDER PRESIDENT. Should be ABOVE THE LAW AND ORDER PRESIDENT.
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Post by happyhoix on Jun 22, 2022 6:58:08 GMT -5
I'm less worried about Fox News than I am thrilled that the American public is finding out how rotten to the core the Republican party is. Really, how can they cover this? Peloski outplayed them by not letting loudmouths on the committee whose only goal was to disrupt their findings. They can't claim partisanship when all the people that are testifying are...Republicans. Oh, but still they try: "One of the things that stands out to me, John, just in terms of the political landscape here, is that A., there is no opposition questioning," MacCallum said. "And I think that most of these people would hold up quite well under it, probably, but I think that it would lend a little bit more credibility to it to have someone in that room saying, 'Yes, but what about this? What about that?' But we're not getting that in this current environment." www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-news-host-says-january-6-committee-testimony-is-not-not-truthful-and-could-be-used-in-campaign-ads/ar-AAYIm9R?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b69db7dd48b1496eae6e44c2d32de3b0Well whose fault is it there are only Rhinos on the committee? They tried to create a 50/50 committee and Trump wouldn’t let any of his GOP minions participate. Now he wants to bitch about there not being any of his minions on the committee. He only has himself to blame, but he won’t. He’ll find a fall guy.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 22, 2022 7:17:39 GMT -5
He already has, McCarthy is going under the bus
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 29, 2022 9:25:16 GMT -5
Again, how many people are watching. Ratings don’t really mayter, how many people watching is far more important
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Post by tbop77 on Jun 29, 2022 9:27:59 GMT -5
I will agree with Trump on one thing, we do not have a country anymore. If Fox is top-rated as proclaimed and they are not even reporting on the J6 hearing, people really don't care anymore.
Just eat the crap Fox feeds you and don't worry about democracy.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 29, 2022 9:43:40 GMT -5
Again, how many people are watching. Ratings don’t really mayter, how many people watching is far more important they have roughly 2M viewers. that is down 10% from their peak in 2009. therefore, they have lost 10% of their audience in the last (13) years. they will probably keep their audience until they all die. like the rotary phone. and the slide rule.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 29, 2022 9:49:38 GMT -5
Again, how many people are watching. Ratings don’t really mayter, how many people watching is far more important they have roughly 2M viewers. that is down 10% from their peak in 2009. therefore, they have lost 10% of their audience in the last (13) years. they will probably keep their audience until they all die. like the rotary phone. and the slide rule. So he continues to harp on this topic despite the fact that these "highly rated" programs have an audience of <1% of the population? Seems like a rounding error. He doesn't seem to understand math very well.
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