Fox cable television ratings

[pulmonarymd]

Nov 17, 2021 7:23:46 GMT -5 Cheesy FL-Vol said:

Nov 17, 2021 7:00:52 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

It’s different. He is a white male conservative.

Is he? He is half cuban I believe. Does that fit the conservative "purity" standards?

<sarcasm...lots and lots of sarcasm>

As TG said, he hates the right people. Plus, he can pass for white. He ain't a dark skin Cuban

[Opti]

I'm going to put this story here, as its a quest for ratings from Fox. They love pretend secrets. Of course any President would love to force their VP to resign just so he can have other people pick a new one for him. <Major sarcasm> 


www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-news-starts-fueling-speculation-that-kamala-harris-could-be-replaced-as-vice-president/ar-AAQMWaN?ocid=msedgntp

A Fox News segment Tuesday night heavily suggested that Kamala Harris could be replaced as vice president of the United States, based on “whispers” on the Hill and a message one of their correspondents received from “someone who knows Capitol Hill very well.”

Jesse Watters told viewers that Fox News correspondent Chad Pergram “has been hearing whispers suggesting there could be some new high-profile confirmation hearings on the horizon in the House of Representatives.”



“Why is this a big deal?” Watters continued. “Because the House does not confirm normal nominees, but it does confirm vice presidential nominees. Does this have something to do with Kamala Harris?”

Older article on Harris vs Pence favorability ratings.

www.newsweek.com/how-kamala-harris-approval-rating-stacks-mike-pences-6-months-vice-presidency-1612167

[Opti]

Nov 17, 2021 9:27:31 GMT -5 Opti said:

I'm going to put this story here, as its a quest for ratings from Fox. They love pretend secrets. Of course any President would love to force their VP to resign just so he can have other people pick a new one for him. <Major sarcasm> 


www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-news-starts-fueling-speculation-that-kamala-harris-could-be-replaced-as-vice-president/ar-AAQMWaN?ocid=msedgntp

A Fox News segment Tuesday night heavily suggested that Kamala Harris could be replaced as vice president of the United States, based on “whispers” on the Hill and a message one of their correspondents received from “someone who knows Capitol Hill very well.”

Jesse Watters told viewers that Fox News correspondent Chad Pergram “has been hearing whispers suggesting there could be some new high-profile confirmation hearings on the horizon in the House of Representatives.”



“Why is this a big deal?” Watters continued. “Because the House does not confirm normal nominees, but it does confirm vice presidential nominees. Does this have something to do with Kamala Harris?”

Older article on Harris vs Pence favorability ratings.

www.newsweek.com/how-kamala-harris-approval-rating-stacks-mike-pences-6-months-vice-presidency-1612167

I just remembered. This is probably a troll piece for people who want Trump to become President through the VP method. Part of the fantasy involves Biden stepping down in favor of Trump. Its weird that Hillary Clinton didn't become President this way I guess. Pence steps down, Hillary get elected as VP then Trump steps down.

[Tennesseer]

Fox irresponsible indeed.

Two Fox contributors quit, citing 'irresponsible' voices

Two writers who have been paid contributors to Fox News Channel have resigned, citing Tucker Carlson's “Patriot Purge” documentary on last January's U.S. Capitol insurrection as a last straw for them.

Jonah Goldberg and Stephen Hayes, who put out a Substack newsletter on conservative news called The Dispatch, had both worked for Fox since 2009.

The voices of the responsible are being drowned out by the irresponsible,” they wrote on their site. They did not immediately return messages from the Associated Press on Monday.

Fox had no comment on their criticisms. Carlson told The New York Times that their departure was great news. “Our viewers will be grateful,” he said.

“Patriot Purge” is a three-part documentary released last month on the Fox Nation streaming service. In it, Carlson argues that Jan. 6 is being used as a pretext for persecution of conservative Americans, and compared it to how falsehoods were used in the lead-up to the Iraq War.

Goldberg and Hayes called the documentary a collection of incoherent conspiracy-mongering, which is “riddled with factual inaccuracies, half-truths, deceptive imagery and damning omissions.”

They said it was the most egregious example of a long-term trend of opinion hosts amplifying the false claims and bizarre narratives of former President Donald Trump, while Fox's news side reports the truth.

“If a person with such a platform shares such misinformation loud enough and long enough, there are Americans who will believe — and act upon — it,” they wrote. “This isn't theoretical. This is what actually happened on January 6, 2021.”

The two writers haven't been on most of Fox's opinion shows lately. Their most recent appearances have largely been confined to being panelists on Bret Baier's news show or Chris Wallace's Sunday show.

Article here: Two Fox contributors quit, citing 'irresponsible' voices

[happyhoix]

Tucker Carlson is an idiot.

He’s feeding into the white self pity - mirrors the fake war on Christmas saga that gets trotted out this time of year.

And their angst about critical race theory.

[dondub]

Nov 23, 2021 13:58:19 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Tucker Carlson is an idiot.

He’s feeding into the white self pity - mirrors the fake war on Christmas saga that gets trotted out this time of year.

And their angst about critical race theory.

He gives weasels a bad name.

[Tennesseer]

How anti-Trump conservatives have fled Fox News

Former Fox News contributors Jonah Goldberg and Stephen Hayes decided to leave the network last week. The two have long been concerned over former President Donald Trump falsely claiming the 2020 election was stolen. The publication of Tucker Carlson's falsehood-filled "Patriot Purge" on Fox Nation, about January 6, was the last straw.

The Goldberg/Hayes saga is a manifestation of a larger trend. The audience of right-wing media such as Fox News, Newsmax and One America News Network wants little to do with resisting Trump, even if that means they are resisting the truth. Republicans who don't get news from these networks are far more unfavorable to the former President.

We can see this well in a CNN/SSRS poll conducted in August and September. In the poll, I isolated Republicans and independents who leaned Republican who preferred to get their television or digital news only from Fox News, Newsmax or One America News Network.

Almost uniformly (88% to 11%), Republican voters who like getting their news from those conservative media outlets believe President Joe Biden did not legitimately get enough votes to win the presidency. In other words, almost all of the Republicans in the conservative media audience think a glaring falsehood is true.

A majority of Republican voters (57%) who follow digital or cable news and didn't list Fox News, Newsmax or OANN (e.g. The New York Times or said they didn't have a favorite) as their primary source also falsely believe Biden didn't win the election legitimately. This level, though, is far smaller than among those who like getting their news from conservative media. Additionally, a significantly larger share of these Republicans (42%) believe the truth that Biden legitimately received enough votes to win the presidency.

The difference between these two audiences, however, isn't merely about views on the 2020 election. It's how important those views are to their identity as Republicans.

Republican voters who prefer to get their news from Fox, Newsmax or OANN are three times as likely (57% to 18%) to indicate that thinking Trump won in 2020 is very important to what being a Republican means to them.

That is, even if a majority of Republicans, regardless of where they like to get their news, have untrue beliefs about 2020, those views are much more deeply held among those who prefer those conservative news outlets.

Complete article here: How anti-Trump conservatives have fled Fox News

[djAdvocate]

it's pretty much the ministry of propaganda for the neo-fascist US at this point.

[thyme4change]

I wish we all had to go back to watching CBS, NBC or ABC news - 30 minutes each night - everyone. Then, we can also go to whatever biased whack-a-doo source, but just have everyone hear the same message every day.

I was recently asked what is a reasonable news source, since I don't believe Fox is reliable. I answered that if they think the 3 networks are far leftist propaganda, then we will never find even a centimeter of common ground. It isn’t like I'm suggesting Mother Jones. Reuters always seems to hit the middle. I wonder what conservatives think about them.

[Tennesseer]

[thyme4change]

Nov 29, 2021 19:46:49 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

If I can't convince someone NBC is neutral, I sure as hell am not going to convince them that PBS is.

[azucena]

Can anyone find an updated version?  This one is dated 2018 and I'm just curious about the comparison.  Want to show it to DD13 as we've talked about news bias quite a bit the past couple of years.

Also really curious about why anyone would name their media 'Wonkette' LOL - see far left bottom.

[thyme4change]

Nov 30, 2021 9:03:36 GMT -5 azucena said:

Can anyone find an updated version?  This one is dated 2018 and I'm just curious about the comparison.  Want to show it to DD13 as we've talked about news bias quite a bit the past couple of years.

Also really curious about why anyone would name their media 'Wonkette' LOL - see far left bottom.

I do agree with the conservatives that CNN is far more to the left than that chart ranks it. I am not sure if they take to sum total of the network, or just the news programs. Because Fox news isn't as radical as that fucker Carlson. And CNN news isn't as obvious as Don Lemon.

[Tennesseer]

Nov 30, 2021 9:03:36 GMT -5 azucena said:

Can anyone find an updated version?  This one is dated 2018 and I'm just curious about the comparison.  Want to show it to DD13 as we've talked about news bias quite a bit the past couple of years.

Also really curious about why anyone would name their media 'Wonkette' LOL - see far left bottom.

2021 Chart.



An easier view of 2021 chart.



Link to all: How Reliable is Your News Source? Understanding Media Bias 2021

[djAdvocate]

when people criticize AP, they lose all credibility.
to NOT recognize AP as centrist is the clearest indication of your OWN bias.

edit: I think that it is interesting that FOX now charts as hyperpartisan.  only a few years back they were considered "center right".

[thyme4change]

Dec 1, 2021 0:26:41 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

when people criticize AP, they lose all credibility.
to NOT recognize AP as centrist is the clearest indication of your OWN bias.

edit: I think that it is interesting that FOX now charts as hyperpartisan.  only a few years back they were considered "center right".

I am surprised Newsmax is only R-leaning and Fox is full R. I thought Newsmax was more extreme, but only by rumor and reputation. I don’t have an independent opinion.

I'm glad they put CNN in the far left. Progressives have to stop saying it is a reasonable news source. They copied Fox news anger-driven programming and just flipped the narrative.

[Tennesseer]

Dec 1, 2021 12:16:31 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Dec 1, 2021 0:26:41 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

when people criticize AP, they lose all credibility.
to NOT recognize AP as centrist is the clearest indication of your OWN bias.

edit: I think that it is interesting that FOX now charts as hyperpartisan.  only a few years back they were considered "center right".

I am surprised Newsmax is only R-leaning and Fox is full R. I thought Newsmax was more extreme, but only by rumor and reputation. I don’t have an independent opinion.

I'm glad they put CNN in the far left. Progressives have to stop saying it is a reasonable news source. They copied Fox news anger-driven programming and just flipped the narrative.

Newsmax is in two columns in the second new chart: News (Leans Right)and Opinion (Right)

[Value Buy]

Speaking of the far left, CNN and MSNBC check their viewership numbers.
They are becoming totally irrelevent.
Cuomo who was fired this week had the highest rating for CNN in the evening and had lost 80% of his audiience since the first of the year.

[Opti]

Don't care about viewership numbers of CNN, MSNBC, Fox cable, etc. Don't have it, don't watch it, not important to me. Both CNN and MSNBC might be read more online than watched.

[tbop77]

Maybe their ratings are good since they have some pretty good actors (liars)  They are texting Meadows to call off Trump's mob and then go on their shows that night blaming the riot on BLM and Antifa.  Nothing on Fox this morning about the texts they were sending Meadows during the riot.  They are framing it to their audience as another attempt to get Trump.  


“Mark, the president needs to tell people in the Capitol to go home,” Ms. Ingraham wrote. “This is hurting all of us. He is destroying his legacy.”

Mr. Kilmeade echoed that concern, texting Mr. Meadows: “Please, get him on TV. Destroying everything you have accomplished.”



Sean Hannity texted: “Can he make a statement? Ask people to leave the Capitol.”

www.nytimes.com/2021/12/13/business/media/fox-news-trump-jan-6-meadows.html


Apparently, Trump was enjoying his mob attacking the Capitol so much, he wouldn't even respond to Don JR:


“We need an Oval Office address. He has to lead now. It has gone too far and gotten out of hand,” Trump Jr. texted

thehill.com/homenews/house/585659-meadows-texts-show-hannity-don-jr-wanted-trump-to-stop-jan-6-riot

[Tennesseer]

The hypocrisy of Fox News channel personalities is right in texts and on tapes.   Why is  Fox not terminating these liars and hypocrites?   

Of course the above is a rhetorical question because we all know why:  ratings and the income from advertisers. 

Fox stays silent about new texts that expose Hannity and Ingraham's Jan. 6 hypocrisy

[Opti]

This is more of a Fox news thing, but still sad. I understand Chris Wallace wanting to leave, but it really hurts Fox news as an entity.

www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/stephen-colbert-and-seth-meyers-marvel-at-team-trump-s-coup-powerpoint-chris-wallace-s-succession/ar-AARNh6D?ocid=msedgntp
"These details are just further proof that the right win has completely gone bonkers nutso," Colbert said. "It's gotten so bad that yesterday, Chris Wallace announced he's leaving Fox News. It's the end of an era, but luckily Fox has already filled the time slot with Flaming Christmas Tree." Still, with Wallace's departure "goes Fox News' last shed of credibility — now they have to change their slogan from 'Fair and Balanced' to 'Horse Paste and Guns! Argle Bargle! Argle Bargle!'" he joked. "So, what's next for Chris? Wallace will be joining CNN+" as "part of their 'Lose-a-Chris, Get-a-Chris' program."

[Tennesseer]

Fox News needs to shut down.  That or fire just about everyone and rehire new oeople5 with integrity.

Fox News’s shaky veneer collapses

Two things happened in the past 48 hours that badly eroded any ability for Fox News to credibly claim that its approach to its coverage is objective.

The first was the sudden announcement on Sunday that longtime host Chris Wallace was decamping for a position with CNN. Wallace had long been a target of conservatives, including on the network itself. His weekly program hosted both Democrats and Republicans, with members of each party facing equivalently skeptical questioning. Even those unwilling to cede that point can simply compare his show to the network’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” hosted by Maria Bartiromo. Wallace’s approach was to interrogate legislators about consequential news stories. Bartiromo tends to spend more time amplifying right-wing propaganda.

As significant as that resignation was, the news for the network soon got worse. During a hearing on Monday evening held by the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 pro-Trump riot, Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) revealed text messages that the committee had received from Mark Meadows, who at the time of the riot was President Donald Trump’s chief of staff. The messages included appeals from several Fox News hosts, including Sean Hannity and Brian Kilmeade, the latter of whom warned Meadows that the rioters were “destroying everything you have accomplished.”

The most telling message, though, came from Fox News host Laura Ingraham.

“The president needs to tell people in the Capitol to go home,” she wrote. “This is hurting all of us.”

That’s a strange formulation, coming from an ostensible member of the media. Hannity had long been explicit in his support for Trump. But, with that message, Ingraham was equating the damage being done to Trump by the violence of his supporters with damage being done to a broader group of Trump allies, herself included. Her concern was not what was being done to America but to them, the Trumpists of which she was a part.

As if intentionally reinforcing that point, Ingraham’s program on the evening of Jan. 6 worked to downplay the blame that might be attributed to Trump. She claimed that the rioters were “not all Trump supporters” and elevated a quickly debunked claim about the presence of antifa. She claimed that the rioters amounted to about “three dozen people,” a figure that, as of writing, constitutes less than 5 percent of the number of people who have so far been arrested for their roles in the violence.

Complete article here:  Fox News’s shaky veneer collapses

[tbop77]

Nah, they will just keep on framing this as an attempt to smear Trump.  The cult of Trump will eat it up.  


“I am an honest, straightforward person. I say the same thing in private that I say to all of you. Liz Cheney knows this. She doesn’t seem to care. She’s interested in one thing and one thing only — smearing Donald Trump and purging him from the party,” Hannity said.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-news-hosts-blast-house-committee-for-releasing-their-jan-6-text-messages-to-meadows/ar-AARPg5d?ocid=msedgntp

Sorry folks, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out Trump was sitting there watching the whole thing unravel and did nothing to call of his mob.   

[Opti]

Hannity said Tuesday that a message asking whether Trump could "make a statement asking people to leave the Capitol" was "one of" the texts he sent to Meadows. But he focused his criticism on what he described as the committee’s partisan work, and he said the release of his texts was an invasion of privacy.


“I am an honest, straightforward person. I say the same thing in private that I say to all of you.

Hannity of course is being dishonest and a liar. If he had said that text on air (same thing public as private), releasing the text would mean nothing. The fact that it means something to him, shows his deception.


Ingraham said on her show Tuesday night that the committee and media reports have misrepresented her actions on Jan. 6.

“The entire Jan. 6 campaign has become one of revenge and defamation, of false characterization and false equivalencies,” she said.

Ingraham also directed her ire toward Cheney, saying the release of the texts “ignores the facts of that day.”


She's worse. I guess she's worried we won't ignore the fact she was worried about herself and standing in the news, not the country?

[Tennesseer]

Dec 15, 2021 7:23:52 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Nah, they will just keep on framing this as an attempt to smear Trump.  The cult of Trump will eat it up.  


“I am an honest, straightforward person. I say the same thing in private that I say to all of you. Liz Cheney knows this. She doesn’t seem to care. She’s interested in one thing and one thing only — smearing Donald Trump and purging him from the party,” Hannity said.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-news-hosts-blast-house-committee-for-releasing-their-jan-6-text-messages-to-meadows/ar-AARPg5d?ocid=msedgntp

Sorry folks, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out Trump was sitting there watching the whole thing unravel and did nothing to call of his mob.   

(t)rumpelstiltskin dancing while watching the Capitol insurrection on TV.

[djAdvocate]

Dec 8, 2021 10:39:12 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Speaking of the far left, CNN and MSNBC check their viewership numbers.
They are becoming totally irrelevent.
Cuomo who was fired this week had the highest rating for CNN in the evening and had lost 80% of his audiience since the first of the year.

cable news? yes.

in the future, people will be puzzled as to why we ever allowed ourselves to be enslaved to networks, who fed us bullshit at a time and place of THEIR choosing.

it is truly the slide rule of news media. it is why News Corp has risen a mere 20% in the last EIGHT YEARS, or about 2% per year (less than the rate of inflation).

[djAdvocate]

I asked a question on another board:

Wallace was a journalist, not an opinion hack.
We all know that people like Hannity despise journalists.
does FOX News have ANY Journalists left?

I am actually SERIOUS about that question. I can't think of any.

[djAdvocate]

Dec 15, 2021 7:23:52 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Nah, they will just keep on framing this as an attempt to smear Trump.  The cult of Trump will eat it up.  


“I am an honest, straightforward person. I say the same thing in private that I say to all of you. Liz Cheney knows this. She doesn’t seem to care. She’s interested in one thing and one thing only — smearing Donald Trump and purging him from the party,” Hannity said.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-news-hosts-blast-house-committee-for-releasing-their-jan-6-text-messages-to-meadows/ar-AARPg5d?ocid=msedgntp

Sorry folks, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out Trump was sitting there watching the whole thing unravel and did nothing to call of his mob.   

it's not a smear if it is true.  bitch.

[tbop77]

In Thursday's ruling, Davis wrote that "Fox possessed countervailing evidence of election fraud from the Department of Justice, election experts, and Dominion at the time it had been making its statements."



Davis wrote that in seeking to dismiss the lawsuit, Fox News contended that many of its hosts debunked election lies.



"Yet, certain Fox personnel (e.g., Mr. Dobbs) continued to push the fraud claims," Davis wrote, appearing to reference former Fox Business host Lou Dobbs. "The nearby presence of dissenting colleagues thus further suggests Fox, through personnel like Mr. Dobbs, was knowing or reckless in reporting the claims."



In his rejection, Davis wrote that the court found that it is "reasonably conceivable that Dominion has a claim for defamation per se."


www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/delaware-judge-rejects-fox-news-request-to-throw-out-dominions-defamation-lawsuit-regarding-2020-election/ar-AARTPLy?ocid=uxbndlbing

What you say?  Fox spreading fake news?   Guess all that lying for ratings might catch up with them!