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Rejecting the January 6 Attack in Christ's Name | Opinion
When far-right extremists stormed the U.S. Capitol one year ago, some did so with wooden crosses and flags proclaiming "Jesus is my Savior, Trump is my President." The faux-spiritual, far-right messages that undergirded the failed insurrection are powerful examples of "Christian nationalism," the belief that America is an exclusively Christian nation and that one cannot be a good American without being a conservative Christian. To truly understand what happened last January 6, we first have to understand white Christian nationalism. And to stop another January 6, Christians have to stop the harmful white nationalism spread in our name. Let's be clear: Christian nationalism is neither Christian nor patriotic. This toxic worldview, on such clear display at the January 6 attack, is a blasphemous and seditionist ideology that is deeply tied to white supremacy and completely abandons the Gospel's values of love, truth, dignity, and justice. The good news is that most American Christians reject white Christian nationalism. I direct an organization called Faithful America, the largest online community of Christians putting our faith into action for social justice. Together with Faith in Public Life Action, we're mobilizing people of faith to reject Christian nationalism, call for accountability, and pass critical reforms to protect our democracy. Nearly 10,000 people of faith are demanding the House select committee investigating January 6 to take Attorney General Merrick Garland up on his promise Wednesday to hold those responsible for last year's violence accountable. In our open letter, we're urging the committee to make criminal referrals for insurrection leaders and to endorse pro-democracy bills like the Freedom to Vote Act and the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act. The bad news is that, despite its minority status, Christian nationalism remains a powerful extremist movement—one encouraged by today's Republican politicians and poised to cause even more damage to the nation and the church if not contained. During his time in office, Donald Trump relied on white supremacy and Christian nationalism to solidify his base. Countless far-right elected officials then abandoned both the Constitution and the Bible when they joined him in mainstreaming deadly religious rhetoric to spread the Big Lie about the 2020 election and try to overturn its results. Even a year later, most of them still refuse to acknowledge the truth: President Joe Biden won a free and fair election. And in that year, many of those same politicians—including U.S. Representatives Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, Madison Cawthorn, and Paul Gosar, all with the tacit support of Republican House Leader Kevin McCarthy—have also bragged about their Christian faith while simultaneously encouraging more violence, supporting efforts to restrict voting rights, and spreading deadly misinformation about democracy, COVID-19, and climate change. That misinformation is no accident. By linking this all-out attack on truth to voters' deeply-held religious beliefs, these lawmakers have set themselves up as holy prophets, and left their supporters with no one else to trust. This is not Christianity; it's an authoritarian cult, one that worships power rather than God. Complete article here: Rejecting the January 6 Attack in Christ's Name | Opinion
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 6, 2022 14:16:50 GMT -5
You know there is a word we call people of other religions when they seek to impose their minority will on an entire nation. What is it Republicans are always screaming about and trying to ban people from coming over to our country because they fear they will make us a religious state?
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 7, 2022 19:06:25 GMT -5
You know there is a word we call people of other religions when they seek to impose their minority will on an entire nation. What is it Republicans are always screaming about and trying to ban people from coming over to our country because they fear they will make us a religious state? What word would that be?
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Snippets from the article. How historians view Trump – and how Trump sees himself
There's at least one thing that Donald Trump's critics and supporters can agree on about his presidency, according to Jeffrey Engel, director of the Center for Presidential History at Southern Methodist University: "He came in to be a disrupter, and of all of his accomplishments, I think it's very easy to say that he accomplished that one." Engel is one of a group of historians from leading universities around the country who convened via Zoom last March. Their mission: assessing one of the most unusual presidencies in American history. During the call, Timothy Naftali of New York University remarked, "His concept of a national interest was identical with his concept of his own interest." Daniel C. Kurtzer, of Princeton University's School of Public and International Affairs, said, "Trump inherited a mess. It was not that he created a mess; the Middle East was in very bad shape. Julian Zelizer of Princeton assembled the panel, which will soon publish a book of essays on Mr. Trump's time in office – a presidency he described as "one of the most unstable, unconventional. "One thing that historians who've lived through the moment have, that historians 200 years from now won't have, is a sense of what it felt like to live in the moment," Zelizer told correspondent Rita Braver. Braver spoke with four of the historians on the panel, who all agree that history's judgement of President Trump is likely to focus on two major events: his response to the coronavirus pandemic (one he said was "going to disappear … one day, it's like a miracle it will disappear"), and his role in the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol (at which he told the assembled crowd, "We fight like hell, and if you don't fight like hell, you're not gonna have a country anymore"). Braver asked Merlin Chowkwanyuan, a historian at Columbia University's School of Public Health, "How did Donald Trump do with answering the challenge of COVID?" "Overall, I think Donald Trump not only didn't do bad, he did pretty terribly," Chowkwanyuan replied. "There were many opportunities where he could have taken decisive federal action, and [he] passed them up." Braver asked Hemmer, "If you had to give him a grade, what would it be?" "I don't think that a presidency that ends without a peaceful transfer of power can be considered anything other than a failure, because of Donald Trump's culpability in that moment," she replied. But Mr. Trump still has strong influence in the Republican Party, while teasing a possible White House run in 2024. Nevertheless, the historians "Sunday Morning" spoke to, along with those in a recent C-Span survey, predict that in the long run, Donald J. Trump will be relegated to the bottom tier of American presidents. As Jeffrey Engel said, "Donald Trump has a unique distinction – it's the only president who refused to honor democracy. Stop and think about that sentence: It makes my mouth say, How can you say these words? And yet, I don't think they're wrong." Complete article here: How historians view Trump – and how Trump sees himself
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Post by dondub on Jan 12, 2022 21:48:27 GMT -5
After his last two speeches I’d expect a rise. Hey VB....what did you think of that failed coup?
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Post by Opti on Jan 12, 2022 21:49:39 GMT -5
After his last two speeches I’d expect a rise. Hey VB....what did you think of that failed coup? Work on any fake election docs?
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Post by dondub on Jan 12, 2022 21:56:38 GMT -5
The two main issues were the economy and Covid. The economy has boomed under Biden. Best stock market gains ever, wages rising, record job growth, 6+% GDP growth. Jobs available all over. I have seen burger flipper positions at $15-19 up here.
COVID...sigh. If all the Death Cult idiots would have vaccinated last year, like us normal people, things would be vastly different. I wonder how many of the un vaxxed weighed in on that.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 12, 2022 22:27:38 GMT -5
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Post by tbop77 on Jan 13, 2022 7:38:26 GMT -5
He's been through it before when Obama was handed a shit show in 2008. Second verse, same as the first, all Republicans can do is obstruct and complain. They need to just go ahead and make that their platform for the midterms. Bet Trump is glad his coup didn't work!
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 13, 2022 15:14:39 GMT -5
Biden's overall approval rating is 10 points higher than that. why he rates so low economically is only puzzling if you pay attention to reality. clearly many don't.
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Post by Opti on Jan 13, 2022 17:02:43 GMT -5
Biden's overall approval rating is 10 points higher than that. why he rates so low economically is only puzzling if you pay attention to reality. clearly many don't. I think it is the price increases and shortages. The local dollar store went from $1 to $1.50 on most of the items which is excessive. One of the dollar store chains went to $1.25, which is more reasonable, but still hurts if you have been banking on the $1 price point. At $1.50, most of what I bought is no longer compelling. I can get better frozen veggies on sale for less at the grocery store, and only the tater tots I like would still be a buy as Walmart changed theirs to something I do not like. So going forward it will be rare that I buy anything at that dollar store. Grocery stores and manufacturers have pared what they are offering due to supply chain issues and for some that's hard to take since it is no longer 2020. With Omicron and winter, it doesn't surprise me. I think things will be better in the spring.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 13, 2022 17:27:37 GMT -5
Biden's overall approval rating is 10 points higher than that. why he rates so low economically is only puzzling if you pay attention to reality. clearly many don't. I think it is the price increases and shortages. The local dollar store went from $1 to $1.50 on most of the items which is excessive. One of the dollar store chains went to $1.25, which is more reasonable, but still hurts if you have been banking on the $1 price point. At $1.50, most of what I bought is no longer compelling. I can get better frozen veggies on sale for less at the grocery store, and only the tater tots I like would still be a buy as Walmart changed theirs to something I do not like. So going forward it will be rare that I buy anything at that dollar store. Grocery stores and manufacturers have pared what they are offering due to supply chain issues and for some that's hard to take since it is no longer 2020. With Omicron and winter, it doesn't surprise me. I think things will be better in the spring. inflation has rarely been good for presidents. however, the shortages were worse under Trump, whether people CHOOSE to remember that or not.
there is also quite a good chance that inflation is transitory. not 100% by any means, but this seems circumstantial to me. the circumstances are:
1) CPI was +1.4% last year, well below historical norms. 2) inflation in general has been quite low for quite some time.
If we assume average for the last 40 years, CPI would be +7% in the last two years. It is going to be maybe 8-9% over two years, which yes, is higher than normal, but not really anything too extreme.
will people be bummed about it? sure. they should ask for a raise. not kidding. labor is in short supply. ask for a raise.
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 13, 2022 22:52:45 GMT -5
I think it is the price increases and shortages. The local dollar store went from $1 to $1.50 on most of the items which is excessive. One of the dollar store chains went to $1.25, which is more reasonable, but still hurts if you have been banking on the $1 price point. At $1.50, most of what I bought is no longer compelling. I can get better frozen veggies on sale for less at the grocery store, and only the tater tots I like would still be a buy as Walmart changed theirs to something I do not like. So going forward it will be rare that I buy anything at that dollar store. Grocery stores and manufacturers have pared what they are offering due to supply chain issues and for some that's hard to take since it is no longer 2020. With Omicron and winter, it doesn't surprise me. I think things will be better in the spring. inflation has rarely been good for presidents. however, the shortages were worse under Trump, whether people CHOOSE to remember that or not.
there is also quite a good chance that inflation is transitory. not 100% by any means, but this seems circumstantial to me. the circumstances are:
1) CPI was +1.4% last year, well below historical norms. 2) inflation in general has been quite low for quite some time.
If we assume average for the last 40 years, CPI would be +7% in the last two years. It is going to be maybe 8-9% over two years, which yes, is higher than normal, but not really anything too extreme.
will people be bummed about it? sure. they should ask for a raise. not kidding. labor is in short supply. ask for a raise.
I am seriously too emotional to even try and discuss your talking points to answer your response. I find it impossible to believe you believe what you write. Biden's 33% number comes in second only to Richard Nixon, not Jimmy carter, not even Trump Stacey Abrams stiffed Biden in Atlanta claiming she had a scheduling conflict with the President's speech. Really? And America does not know what was actually happening. Right. She gave him the middle finger. Even the liberal media is changing their overwhelmingly positive remarks on Biden and Harris and testing different names to run in 2024. You know they are damn worried when they suggest a Biden Cheney ticket. There was another ticket with Romney as VP.......on the democratic ticket On top of that there is talk of Hillary coming out from under her rock and replacing Biden on the ticket. And no, I am not making this up, and you know it. Then we have VP Harris who just when you think she cannot say something awful in her next interview based on simple odds, and yet she does it every time. Her response on mask availability for the public yesterday was atrocious, and has Americans really worried about this duet. Then again maybe the democrats are just setting a trap for Republicans and hope the Pubs do not bother coming out to vote in 2022 and 2024 because it is a Republican lock to win. Don't worry Republicans will show up.
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inflation has rarely been good for presidents. however, the shortages were worse under Trump, whether people CHOOSE to remember that or not.
there is also quite a good chance that inflation is transitory. not 100% by any means, but this seems circumstantial to me. the circumstances are:
1) CPI was +1.4% last year, well below historical norms. 2) inflation in general has been quite low for quite some time.
If we assume average for the last 40 years, CPI would be +7% in the last two years. It is going to be maybe 8-9% over two years, which yes, is higher than normal, but not really anything too extreme.
will people be bummed about it? sure. they should ask for a raise. not kidding. labor is in short supply. ask for a raise.
I am seriously too emotional to even try and discuss your talking points to answer your response.I find it impossible to believe you believe what you write. Biden's 33% number comes in second only to Richard Nixon, not Jimmy carter, not even Trump Stacey Abrams stiffed Biden in Atlanta claiming she had a scheduling conflict with the President's speech. Really? And America does not know what was actually happening. Right. She gave him the middle finger. Even the liberal media is changing their overwhelmingly positive remarks on Biden and Harris and testing different names to run in 2024. You know they are damn worried when they suggest a Biden Cheney ticket. There was another ticket with Romney as VP.......on the democratic ticket On top of that there is talk of Hillary coming out from under her rock and replacing Biden on the ticket. And no, I am not making this up, and you know it. Then we have VP Harris who just when you think she cannot say something awful in her next interview based on simple odds, and yet she does it every time. Her response on mask availability for the public yesterday was atrocious, and has Americans really worried about this duet. Then again maybe the democrats are just setting a trap for Republicans and hope the Pubs do not bother coming out to vote in 2022 and 2024 because it is a Republican lock to win. Don't worry Republicans will show up. Here's box of tissues for you. They are anti-viral.
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Post by dondub on Jan 13, 2022 23:49:39 GMT -5
Anyone that thinks, right now, that Biden will be running in 2024, is not thinking clearly. I did see a poll somewhere today that had Biden at 42%.
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Post by tallguy on Jan 14, 2022 0:37:23 GMT -5
Polls are generally showing Biden's approval rating in the low- to mid-forties. Digging into this particular one shows that his support among young voters is very low, presumably because he is not a progressive and is not pushing progressive aims such as eliminating all student loan debt. One would think that conservatives would appreciate that.
And while VB may not be making up the idea that Hillary will run in 2024, the fact is that conservatives ARE making it up, presumably to create a new bogeyman to motivate their own voters. Anybody who actually believes that Hillary is going to run has their head far up their own nether regions. One would think that would be unappealing, but apparently they have become used to it.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 14, 2022 2:34:12 GMT -5
I am seriously too emotional to even try and discuss your talking points to answer your response.I find it impossible to believe you believe what you write. Biden's 33% number comes in second only to Richard Nixon, not Jimmy carter, not even Trump suggest you get a grip. Biden is at 42% projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/
every president in US history since WW2 has polled WORSE than this at some point during their presidency with only TWO exceptions: Ike and JFK.
in addition, here are FIVE presidents since WW2 that have polled below 40%:
Truman, Johnson, GHWB, Clinton and Reagan.
in other words, Trump beat those five. does ANYONE here think that Trump was a better president than ANY on that list?
conclusion: public approval is MEANINGLESS in terms of the quality of a president. it does, however, impact politics.
and our politics right now are potentially fatal. so, yes, keep your tissues out and weep for our* nation, VB.
*soon to be YOUR nation. I want nothing to do with it.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 14, 2022 2:41:22 GMT -5
PS- VB, you are not even remotely close on the worst polling.
the following presidents all polled below 30% AVERAGE at some point during their presidency:
Truman 22% Nixon 24% Carter 29% GHWB 28% W 25%
arguably, one on that list is the 2nd worst president since Harding. the worst president since the Civil War Era didn't make that list.
Neither did Biden.
save your breathless emotionalism for the midterms.
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inflation has rarely been good for presidents. however, the shortages were worse under Trump, whether people CHOOSE to remember that or not.
there is also quite a good chance that inflation is transitory. not 100% by any means, but this seems circumstantial to me. the circumstances are:
1) CPI was +1.4% last year, well below historical norms. 2) inflation in general has been quite low for quite some time.
If we assume average for the last 40 years, CPI would be +7% in the last two years. It is going to be maybe 8-9% over two years, which yes, is higher than normal, but not really anything too extreme.
will people be bummed about it? sure. they should ask for a raise. not kidding. labor is in short supply. ask for a raise.
I am seriously too emotional to even try and discuss your talking points to answer your response. I find it impossible to believe you believe what you write. Biden's 33% number comes in second only to Richard Nixon, not Jimmy carter, not even Trump Stacey Abrams stiffed Biden in Atlanta claiming she had a scheduling conflict with the President's speech. Really? And America does not know what was actually happening. Right. She gave him the middle finger. Even the liberal media is changing their overwhelmingly positive remarks on Biden and Harris and testing different names to run in 2024. You know they are damn worried when they suggest a Biden Cheney ticket. There was another ticket with Romney as VP.......on the democratic ticket On top of that there is talk of Hillary coming out from under her rock and replacing Biden on the ticket. And no, I am not making this up, and you know it. Then we have VP Harris who just when you think she cannot say something awful in her next interview based on simple odds, and yet she does it every time. Her response on mask availability for the public yesterday was atrocious, and has Americans really worried about this duet.Then again maybe the democrats are just setting a trap for Republicans and hope the Pubs do not bother coming out to vote in 2022 and 2024 because it is a Republican lock to win. Don't worry Republicans will show up. LOL, says the person who voted for a man for President that suggested injecting bleach. Are you having memory difficulties? Trump said something stupid everyday....and still does!
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Post by Opti on Jan 14, 2022 8:07:38 GMT -5
inflation has rarely been good for presidents. however, the shortages were worse under Trump, whether people CHOOSE to remember that or not.
there is also quite a good chance that inflation is transitory. not 100% by any means, but this seems circumstantial to me. the circumstances are:
1) CPI was +1.4% last year, well below historical norms. 2) inflation in general has been quite low for quite some time.
If we assume average for the last 40 years, CPI would be +7% in the last two years. It is going to be maybe 8-9% over two years, which yes, is higher than normal, but not really anything too extreme.
will people be bummed about it? sure. they should ask for a raise. not kidding. labor is in short supply. ask for a raise.
I am seriously too emotional to even try and discuss your talking points to answer your response. I find it impossible to believe you believe what you write. Biden's 33% number comes in second only to Richard Nixon, not Jimmy carter, not even Trump Stacey Abrams stiffed Biden in Atlanta claiming she had a scheduling conflict with the President's speech. Really? And America does not know what was actually happening. Right. She gave him the middle finger. Even the liberal media is changing their overwhelmingly positive remarks on Biden and Harris and testing different names to run in 2024. You know they are damn worried when they suggest a Biden Cheney ticket. There was another ticket with Romney as VP.......on the democratic ticket On top of that there is talk of Hillary coming out from under her rock and replacing Biden on the ticket. And no, I am not making this up, and you know it. Then we have VP Harris who just when you think she cannot say something awful in her next interview based on simple odds, and yet she does it every time. Her response on mask availability for the public yesterday was atrocious, and has Americans really worried about this duet. Then again maybe the democrats are just setting a trap for Republicans and hope the Pubs do not bother coming out to vote in 2022 and 2024 because it is a Republican lock to win. Don't worry Republicans will show up. We are in a capitalistic nation during a pandemic. It is no surprise to me things are the way they are. As the pandemic eases, things will change. That will happen before the 2024 election, although possibly not before the 2022 elections. I think 2023 will look significantly different than now. Liberal media or any media playing around with presidential picks is merely mental masturbation or people in search of clicks instead of actual stories. Its about as useful as Q conspiracy theories. I don't care if you are making it up or not, the DNC helps decide on the ultimate ticket, not the media. So, if you want to hang your hat on gossipy peeps, I guess have at it. I won't. Harris, I haven't been following, and she's yet to be a big new story on MSN. She's got stuff to learn, no surprise there. Trump said awful things every time he spoke, so I'm kind of wondering why it is such a big deal for you from her?
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 14, 2022 9:52:57 GMT -5
Polls are generally showing Biden's approval rating in the low- to mid-forties. Digging into this particular one shows that his support among young voters is very low, presumably because he is not a progressive and is not pushing progressive aims such as eliminating all student loan debt. One would think that conservatives would appreciate that. And while VB may not be making up the idea that Hillary will run in 2024, the fact is that conservatives ARE making it up, presumably to create a new bogeyman to motivate their own voters. Anybody who actually believes that Hillary is going to run has their head far up their own nether regions. One would think that would be unappealing, but apparently they have become used to it. psst. It was not a conservative site that brought it up. Conservatives are not making it up. They do not want her to run because they know the moms who avoided her in 2016 will actually vote for her if it gets Biden out of the Presidency
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 14, 2022 10:06:03 GMT -5
I do feel bad this forum is so up the democrat's ass they cannot see daylight anymore let alone what is happening with Biden and Harris. I tried to just hold Biden's poll numbers to Presidents people actually remember living with. Truman during and after WW II and lots of stuff other than just screwing with Americans was going on at the time, unliike today's President, and was before my grade school years and I was not into politics at that point. Many here were born after Nixon so I thought that might have been a stretch, but at least he was still in current history books due to Impeachment procedures. On the flip side, I think there are some conservatives who would accept Pelosi as the President if it gets these two out of D.C. iT WOULD BE a THREEFER. Pelosi out of the Congress, and someone from the squad elected to the Speaker position and the Republicans would rule the next twenty years after that. Count me in! And for dj to deny inflation was mild last year speaks volumes.
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Post by Opti on Jan 14, 2022 10:18:38 GMT -5
I do feel bad this forum is so up the democrat's ass they cannot see daylight anymore let alone what is happening with Biden and Harris. I tried to just hold Biden's poll numbers to Presidents people actually remember living with. Truman during and after WW II and lots of stuff other than just screwing with Americans was going on at the time, unliike today's President, and was before my grade school years and I was not into politics at that point. Many here were born after Nixon so I thought that might have been a stretch, but at least he was still in current history books due to Impeachment procedures. On the flip side, I think there are some conservatives who would accept Pelosi as the President if it gets these two out of D.C. iT WOULD BE a THREEFER. Pelosi out of the Congress, and someone from the squad elected to the Speaker position and the Republicans would rule the next twenty years after that. Count me in! And for dj to deny inflation was mild last year speaks volumes. Seeing it and finding it important are two different things. If this was the end of 2023, I'd be concerned, but it is not. I don't see why conservatives worry so much about Biden. Harris is part black and a woman, so I get that, but Biden? Trump gets obsessed and makes up the squad and you all think they are way more powerful than they actually are. None of them have the chops or support to become speaker. Interesting fantasy, but as likely as Pizza gate.
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Tennesseer
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 14, 2022 11:12:28 GMT -5
I do feel bad this forum is so up the democrat's ass they cannot see daylight anymore let alone what is happening with Biden and Harris. I tried to just hold Biden's poll numbers to Presidents people actually remember living with. Truman during and after WW II and lots of stuff other than just screwing with Americans was going on at the time, unliike today's President, and was before my grade school years and I was not into politics at that point. Many here were born after Nixon so I thought that might have been a stretch, but at least he was still in current history books due to Impeachment procedures. On the flip side, I think there are some conservatives who would accept Pelosi as the President if it gets these two out of D.C. iT WOULD BE a THREEFER. Pelosi out of the Congress, and someone from the squad elected to the Speaker position and the Republicans would rule the next twenty years after that. Count me in! And for dj to deny inflation was mild last year speaks volumes. You.
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Post by tbop77 on Jan 14, 2022 11:42:46 GMT -5
I do feel bad this forum is so up the democrat's ass they cannot see daylight anymore let alone what is happening with Biden and Harris. I tried to just hold Biden's poll numbers to Presidents people actually remember living with. Truman during and after WW II and lots of stuff other than just screwing with Americans was going on at the time, unliike today's President, and was before my grade school years and I was not into politics at that point. Many here were born after Nixon so I thought that might have been a stretch, but at least he was still in current history books due to Impeachment procedures. On the flip side, I think there are some conservatives who would accept Pelosi as the President if it gets these two out of D.C. iT WOULD BE a THREEFER. Pelosi out of the Congress, and someone from the squad elected to the Speaker position and the Republicans would rule the next twenty years after that. Count me in! And for dj to deny inflation was mild last year speaks volumes. I do feel bad that conservatives have their head so far up Trump's ass they cannot see daylight anymore, let alone what happened Jan 6th. I'm sure you would have been happy if his plan had worked and even happier if a civil war had been started. Your scenario sound like something straight out of your right wing fake new report.
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