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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 26, 2021 9:53:34 GMT -5
Scroll through the link to see illegal baby names including Talula Does the Hula From Hawaii These Illegal Baby Names That Have Been Banned Around the WorldIn the United States, almost anything goes when it come to baby names. While parents have to deal with the joy and drama of choosing a baby name, taking into account the most popular baby names along with whether or not the rest of the family will hate it, very few names are actually forbidden. Naming laws are actually set by the state, and some states have more requirements than others. There are some commonalities: In most states, you can't put a numeral in your name, for example, and there are often character limits to how long you can make a name. (In Minnesota, you're limited to"only" 150 characters.) But if you want to name your kid something that'll get them teased for the rest of their life, it's your American right. In other countries, though, that isn't always the case, and there are much stricter naming laws. Some require parents to choose from a pre-approved list of names, or petition the government to add a name to the list. Others have laws protecting kids from the ridicule that would result from parents who choose terrible names for them. Here are more than 50"illegal" names that have been banned or almost-banned — see if you think the governing bodies were right to strike them down, or if you think they were overstepping. Link here: link
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 26, 2021 10:15:18 GMT -5
Reminds me of a former girlfriend telling a story about being in Europe, Switzerland i think, and her being asked what was her actual given name. They were shocked it was officially "Kandy" on her birth certificate.
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Post by Tiny on Feb 26, 2021 12:31:42 GMT -5
I have gone thru phases as I've gotten older (and have had more life experience). If you think about it most people have "multiple" names - the one on their birth certificate, the name their family uses, the name their friends use, and maybe another alias they used at a job/work. Does it really matter what name is your "official" name? you have lots of ways to avoid it. It does suck that you have to sign your name "using your official name" on "official documents" - but then most people just use a "squiggle" of some sort as an "official signature". I went by an "alias" for most of my work life - it was only about 5 or 6 years ago that my actual full name started showing up on stuff (I was like where the hell did that middle initial come from I never use it - I don't sign my name with it - why is it showing up everywhere!!??) I personally like the confusion caused by my alias and my actual name suddenly showing up everywhere a name shows up. Since it's been a year of WFH and my email has my formal name - I'm becoming known more by the formal name - which is ok. I've been answering to that name since I was a kid. The nick name was easier to use when meeting face to face. The confusion is a bit like I'm getting back (albeit at innocent people) for all the times in the distant past when I would introduce myself: "Hi! my name is X, nice to meet you!" only to be greeted in return by "Hi! a random shortening of X! nice to meet you! I'm Y". to which I'd reply "it's X, funny how there are so many shortenings or my name." "yeah, a different random shortening of X, it is weird!" To combat having every new person I met call me a different diminutive of my name - I opted to use the shortening my family used (which isn't all that much like my actual name). That solved the problem - but it made for a bit of weirdness because my friends call me something different - and my family mostly uses the X version of my name. Having struggled with the thing where I tell people my name (which one might assume I would want to be called by since I don't add a "but everyone calls me "my approved shortening of X") - and then they DON"T call me that, I get where people might have issues with their name. I think my biggest "why??" with names is the spellings. I've seen dozens of different spellings of Jacob and Aiden and Jennifer and Catherine (more than just the Katherine version). I suspect the owners of the oddly spelled "common" names are just as frustrated with forever having to spell it - or just going with the flow of an incorrect spelling. I'm pretty much if you tell me your name is Mud I will happily call you Mud and if we have the opportunity to have an informal conversation I might ask you how you got such an interesting name. Oddly, whenever I have met someone with my name (or who goes by a diminutive of it) once we get to the "informal relationship" phase of our interactions I might inquire about their experiences with the name. Most of them have the "formal version" of the name on their birthcertificate - but have always gone by the diminutive since day one of their life. My mom enforced use of the "formal version" of my name from day one. I have vivid childhood memories of her correcting people when they used something else. this could be the source of my difficulties - maybe my mom should have just picked a diminutive as a nickname (and left the formal X name for official documents and such).
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Post by Tiny on Feb 26, 2021 12:58:35 GMT -5
Reminds me of a former girlfriend telling a story about being in Europe, Switzerland i think, and her being asked what was her actual given name. They were shocked it was officially "Kandy" on her birth certificate. The weirdest named person I've worked with was "Skip" He was born in the 60's, so since his age seemed to indicate that "Skip" was a nickname - it did come up over time if he was a Jr. or a "the 3rd" or what his actual legal name was. His legal name was Skip. It was weird because for my generation Skip is the nickname that a Jr. or a III gets... it's not a actual "name". I could see how the newer generations might convert it to a name - as in being named after Grandpa "Skip" instead of carrying on an old fashion Frank or Joseph. That wouldn't be all that weird. I've worked with lots of 80's born adults with names like Austin and Dakota. The diminutive Alex is also popular for female/male. It's the Pat and Chris of 80's names. Again, if you say your name is X, I'm calling you X and I won't make an immediate joke about it or shorten it. I'm 100% sure you had heard it all a thousand times before. I'll be clever and not go there.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 26, 2021 13:39:32 GMT -5
Reminds me of a former girlfriend telling a story about being in Europe, Switzerland i think, and her being asked what was her actual given name. They were shocked it was officially "Kandy" on her birth certificate. The weirdest named person I've worked with was "Skip" He was born in the 60's, so since his age seemed to indicate that "Skip" was a nickname - it did come up over time if he was a Jr. or a "the 3rd" or what his actual legal name was. His legal name was Skip. It was weird because for my generation Skip is the nickname that a Jr. or a III gets... it's not a actual "name". I could see how the newer generations might convert it to a name - as in being named after Grandpa "Skip" instead of carrying on an old fashion Frank or Joseph. That wouldn't be all that weird. I've worked with lots of 80's born adults with names like Austin and Dakota. The diminutive Alex is also popular for female/male. It's the Pat and Chris of 80's names. Again, if you say your name is X, I'm calling you X and I won't make an immediate joke about it or shorten it. I'm 100% sure you had heard it all a thousand times before. I'll be clever and not go there. Weirdest Most unkind i ever heard was in the 90's at a small town high school baseball game. A young boy about 5 was being called by his Mom. Took me a couple of seconds to hear what she was saying correctly: "Kenis, come here Kenis." Can you imagine what middle school must have been like for the poor kid.
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Post by alabamagal on Feb 26, 2021 15:50:11 GMT -5
The weirdest named person I've worked with was "Skip" He was born in the 60's, so since his age seemed to indicate that "Skip" was a nickname - it did come up over time if he was a Jr. or a "the 3rd" or what his actual legal name was. His legal name was Skip. It was weird because for my generation Skip is the nickname that a Jr. or a III gets... it's not a actual "name". I could see how the newer generations might convert it to a name - as in being named after Grandpa "Skip" instead of carrying on an old fashion Frank or Joseph. That wouldn't be all that weird. I've worked with lots of 80's born adults with names like Austin and Dakota. The diminutive Alex is also popular for female/male. It's the Pat and Chris of 80's names. Again, if you say your name is X, I'm calling you X and I won't make an immediate joke about it or shorten it. I'm 100% sure you had heard it all a thousand times before. I'll be clever and not go there. Weirdest Most unkind i ever heard was in the 90's at a small town high school baseball game. A young boy about 5 was being called by his Mom. Took me a couple of seconds to hear what she was saying correctly: "Kenis, come here Kenis." Can you imagine what middle school must have been like for the poor kid. I know a guy named Kennis. Never thought about it, but looks a lot weirder with one N. He goes by Ken. Shocked to see my name on the list! I thought it might be banned in Spanish speaking countries (means beautiful) but according to article it is banned in Saudi Arabia. Guess I’m never going there!
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 26, 2021 16:05:00 GMT -5
Weirdest Most unkind i ever heard was in the 90's at a small town high school baseball game. A young boy about 5 was being called by his Mom. Took me a couple of seconds to hear what she was saying correctly: "Kenis, come here Kenis." Can you imagine what middle school must have been like for the poor kid. I know a guy named Kennis. Never thought about it, but looks a lot weirder with one N. He goes by Ken. Shocked to see my name on the list! I thought it might be banned in Spanish speaking countries (means beautiful) but according to article it is banned in Saudi Arabia. Guess I’m never going there! I only know how she said it and not how it might have been spelled. The pronunciation was likely different with one instead of two n's.
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Post by Tiny on Feb 26, 2021 16:20:07 GMT -5
I get the religious angle for names. It's important to maintain the traditions and it adds in a level of religious obligation and duty (you've got obligations/duties on your Saint's day... along with all the other religious obligations/duties you have all the other days of the year.). If you want to keep people 'religious' and in line - give them lots of religious duties and obligations. When I was a kid you were suppose to be named after a Saint... if there was no Saint with your name then it was bad for you - you didn't have anyone with Celestial power or a way to God's ear that you could suck up to/beseech for mercy if God turned a cold shoulder to your pleas. (Ok, that's not how it worked - but it pretty much sounded like it worked that way.) Imagine the horror generated when in 7th grade Catholic School and two new girls started school with all us properly name good Catholic kids: twins Corrie and Carrie. Kind of threw a wrench in the "write a paper about your name sake Saint" or "we're celebrating X Saint Day - so be sure to say something nice to all the X's in class today - it's their day!" There was quite the hubbub - beyond their 'twin-ness' - we already had a set of twins in the class.
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