Vaccinated

[minnesotapaintlady]

Mar 9, 2021 14:49:14 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Mar 9, 2021 11:43:11 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

I agree. Honestly, I’m done caring about people that refuse to get vaccinated. Once everyone that wants a vaccination has the opportunity to get a vaccination, we absolutely need to get back to normal. We can’t lock down the economy to protect the idiots too dumb to protect themselves.

But the point is that only about 10% of the US is fully vaccinated.  I’m 61, still at risk and don’t see access for either me or TD until late spring.  We are still being careful, and will continue to be, but getting back to normal isn’t likely to happen until this summer....just by the math.

If you figure 10% of the population is vaccinated, that’s about 33 million.  Say 30% refuse to get vaccinated, that’s almost 100 million.  That leaves 200 million to vaccinate.  At 2 million shots/day, you are talking 200 days (to get both shots) or over 6 months.  Less if more of the one shot vaccine gets out, but that’s not the majority of the vaccine available right now.

When you are on this side, it’s not fun...especially when you start seeing the push to open by those who ARE vaccinated.  That’s good.....your risk is less.  Mine is not, through no fault of my own.

We just moved to the next phase today because over 65% of the over 65 population in our state now has at least their first dose.  It's actually going pretty fast I think.  They have walk in clinics going this week and I could probably sneak in as a manufacturing worker in an essential job, but I'm ok with waiting and let more at risk people go first. 

This is our new guidelines. 


65+ and;

Phase 1b Tier 2 populations, including:

Minnesotans with specific underlying health conditions: Sickle cell disease, Down syndrome, those in cancer treatment or immunocompromised from organ transplant, oxygen-dependent chronic lung and heart conditions (COPD & CHF)
Targeted essential workers: Food processing plant workers
Minnesotans with rare conditions or disabilities that put them at higher risk of severe illness
Phase 1b Tier 3 populations, including:

Minnesotans age 45 years and older with one or more underlying medical conditions identified by the CDC
Minnesotans age 16 years and older with two or more underlying medical conditions*
Minnesotans age 50 years and older in multi-generational housing

Essential frontline workers: Agricultural, airport staff, additional child care workers not previously eligible, correctional settings, first responders, food production, food retail, food service, judicial system workers, manufacturing, public health workers, public transit, and U.S. Postal Service workers
Please wear clothing that allows for quickly exposing upper arm without requiring privacy.

[Miss Tequila]

Mar 9, 2021 20:45:35 GMT -5 azucena said:

I'm inclined to wear a mask on flights too. I've caught a cold too often after a business trip.

I've been getting our private elementary school teachers appts at the rate of 2 per day. They have to go 30 to 60 mins away to IL bc they aren't eligible in MO until 3.15. By that time, half of ours will be done. I can schedule them at walgreens or walmart bc those are federal doses so they can't restrict by residence. The appts come open thru the day when the teachers can't be online.

That’s awesome that you are able to do that for the teachers. That must be a huge relief for the teachers!

[azucena]

Yes, it makes me so happy to help, and I'm racking up lots of brownie points LOL. Every day at pick up, I get thanked repeatedly. The principal is thrilled because she wasn't sure how she was going to help them since we aren't part of a school district. I'm online for work all day anyway so just watch FB and vaccinespotter during particularly boring mtgs.

[movingforward]

We are vaccinating quickly in my state. I just looked tonight and 25% have now received at least one dose. Here 65+ can get vaccinated and anyone 16+ with at least one high risk condition. This encompasses a lot of people and is great for just getting shots in arms.

I think by the end of May we will be getting pretty much back to normal. Some people I know seem to be scared to death of getting back to normal. I wonder how many are going to need psychological help in returning to the world.

[Miss Tequila]

Mar 9, 2021 21:23:39 GMT -5 movingforward said:

We are vaccinating quickly in my state. I just looked tonight and 25% have now received at least one dose. Here 65+ can get vaccinated and anyone 16+ with at least one high risk condition. This encompasses a lot of people and is great for just getting shots in arms.

I think by the end of May we will be getting pretty much back to normal. Some people I know seem to be scared to death of getting back to normal. I wonder how many are going to need psychological help in returning to the world.

I’m struggling quite a bit with returning to normal. Even though we are vaccinated, it really is terrifying to me. I’m forcing myself because I know it’s not healthy.

[movingforward]

Mar 9, 2021 21:26:18 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Mar 9, 2021 21:23:39 GMT -5 movingforward said:

We are vaccinating quickly in my state. I just looked tonight and 25% have now received at least one dose. Here 65+ can get vaccinated and anyone 16+ with at least one high risk condition. This encompasses a lot of people and is great for just getting shots in arms.

I think by the end of May we will be getting pretty much back to normal. Some people I know seem to be scared to death of getting back to normal. I wonder how many are going to need psychological help in returning to the world.

I’m struggling quite a bit with returning to normal. Even though we are vaccinated, it really is terrifying to me. I’m forcing myself because I know it’s not healthy.

I think it will have lasting effects for some. It's kind of like those who lived through the great depression...my grandmother still did certain things until the day she died because living through that time had such an effect on her. They weren't necessarily bad habits but just certain things she couldn't seem to shake. My guess is that I will one day be the 80 year old with an oversupply of toilet paper in the garage. I picture a mother and her child walking by one day when my garage door is open, the kid turns to his mother and says "mommy, why does that lady have so much toilet paper in her garage?" Mother replies "oh honey, she lived through the great pandemic of 2020. She can't help herself." Lol!

[Miss Tequila]

Mar 9, 2021 21:48:23 GMT -5 movingforward said:

Mar 9, 2021 21:26:18 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

I’m struggling quite a bit with returning to normal. Even though we are vaccinated, it really is terrifying to me. I’m forcing myself because I know it’s not healthy.

I think it will have lasting effects for some. It's kind of like those who lived through the great depression...my grandmother still did certain things until the day she died because living through that time had such an effect on her. They weren't necessarily bad habits but just certain things she couldn't seem to shake. My guess is that I will one day be the 80 year old with an oversupply of toilet paper in the garage. I picture a mother and her child walking by one day when my garage door is open, the kid turns to his mother and says "mommy, why does that lady have so much toilet paper in her garage?" Mother replies "oh honey, she lived through the great pandemic of 2020. She can't help herself." Lol!

I seriously just lol’d! But it’s so true!

[Ryan]

Mar 9, 2021 21:23:39 GMT -5 movingforward said:

We are vaccinating quickly in my state. I just looked tonight and 25% have now received at least one dose. Here 65+ can get vaccinated and anyone 16+ with at least one high risk condition. This encompasses a lot of people and is great for just getting shots in arms.

I think by the end of May we will be getting pretty much back to normal. Some people I know seem to be scared to death of getting back to normal. I wonder how many are going to need psychological help in returning to the world.

I think it will be hard to go back to pre-COVID times.  5 years ago I never concerned myself with getting sick, the thought literally never entered my head.  In the last couple years, I was a little more careful when the flu was spreading around because being sick is so much worse now that I'm a bit older.  Now, after really not seeing anyone indoors for a year, I don't know how it will be once we aren't wearing masks any more.  I'm assuming the numbers will be so low at that point that at some point it will just be an after thought.

[teen persuasion]

DH got his second Pfizer shot on Friday; other than a sore arm with second shot only, no side effects. He's a teacher, and has been in-person 5 days a week since September.

One coworker got her first shot Saturday for health issues. Yay for her!

The governor announced yesterday that more people are eligible for vaccination. He dropped the age limit from 65 to 60 starting today, and added a vague category of public facing govt/non-profit/etc essential workers. They didn't mention libraries by name, but an advocacy group thinks we could be eligible! So maybe March 17 I become eligible.  Hope so, we've been fully open to patrons and back to regular hours since September.  Looking back, things were much worse this winter (fully open) than over the summer when we were curbside only.

Access is tough, though. Pharmacies can only do the age eligible group, and they are adding teachers to that, finally. Everyone else has to go thru state run sites, which come and go, and have been neglecting rural areas. DH had to go to the big regional medical center in the metro area an hour south of us, coworker went to city further east of us.

[Miss Tequila]

My 72 year old mom with lots of health problems got her second shot yesterday. My in laws got their second shots this past Sunday. None had any side effects. My step father gets his second shot tomorrow.

I’m very excited to host east dinner this year. All but one cousin will be vaccinated (he is young 40s and in good health) so I’m comfortable.

We are baby stepping our way back to normalcy!

[minnesotapaintlady]

Here the rural areas are getting done faster for some reason.  Most of the rural counties are sitting at 20-30% first dose done, but the Twin Cities area is at 16-17%  Probably a lower percentage of the population in the over 65 age group in the metro area now that I think about it.

[azucena]

Mar 9, 2021 21:26:18 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Mar 9, 2021 21:23:39 GMT -5 movingforward said:

We are vaccinating quickly in my state. I just looked tonight and 25% have now received at least one dose. Here 65+ can get vaccinated and anyone 16+ with at least one high risk condition. This encompasses a lot of people and is great for just getting shots in arms.

I think by the end of May we will be getting pretty much back to normal. Some people I know seem to be scared to death of getting back to normal. I wonder how many are going to need psychological help in returning to the world.

I’m struggling quite a bit with returning to normal. Even though we are vaccinated, it really is terrifying to me. I’m forcing myself because I know it’s not healthy.

There's a very real PTSD type reaction that can happen after a severe illness.  DH and I both went through it after his prolonged illness and surgeries.  Me more so than him, likely because I was watching it happen and trying to keep him alive.  It can come up at the weirdest times and even months/years after the trauma.  Understanding that thru therapy has been really helpful for me.  I put in the work to develop much healthier coping skills that likely saved me last year when he had the emergency surgery and got me thru this past isolated winter while being prone to SAD. 

Your situation was likely heightened by being so aware that someone needs to care for your disabled daughter. 

Please IM me if you ever need a listening ear.

[teen persuasion]

Mar 10, 2021 8:29:40 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Here the rural areas are getting done faster for some reason.  Most of the rural counties are sitting at 20-30% first dose done, but the Twin Cities area is at 16-17%  Probably a lower percentage of the population in the over 65 age group in the metro area now that I think about it.

The allotments are in such demand, govt is focusing on population centers, so low population rural areas get short shrift. Then low broadband coverage in rural areas mean urban citizens are more tech savvy and have better internet speed, so scoop up all slots immediately. Most allotments have gone thru the state sites, it took forever for pharmacies to get any shots, so 65+ group are just beginning to get their shares, slowly.

There just isn't enough supply to get everyone in the earliest announced eligible groups done before they expand the eligible list again and again.

Loud outcry got a state site put at a community college in a rural county, for a 3 county area that had been ignored. Unfortunately, they didn't give locals first dibs, and 50% of appointments went to big metro county residents, and 20% to another county outside the targeted counties! All about internet access.

[TheOtherMe]

Mar 9, 2021 21:48:23 GMT -5 movingforward said:

Mar 9, 2021 21:26:18 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

I’m struggling quite a bit with returning to normal. Even though we are vaccinated, it really is terrifying to me. I’m forcing myself because I know it’s not healthy.

I think it will have lasting effects for some. It's kind of like those who lived through the great depression...my grandmother still did certain things until the day she died because living through that time had such an effect on her. They weren't necessarily bad habits but just certain things she couldn't seem to shake. My guess is that I will one day be the 80 year old with an oversupply of toilet paper in the garage. I picture a mother and her child walking by one day when my garage door is open, the kid turns to his mother and says "mommy, why does that lady have so much toilet paper in her garage?" Mother replies "oh honey, she lived through the great pandemic of 2020. She can't help herself." Lol!

I didn't have covid and I'm going to have a hard time going back to "normal" because too many people where I live refused to wear a mask, keep 6 feet apart, etc.  My normal will not be what it was before.

My dad's family had a very difficult life during the depression.  Dad still thought he was living in the depression when he died.  I never knew what is was like to be sent to bed after eating a bowl of boiled water.  My dad and his 11 siblings did.  It affected all of them.  

My mom's father was a carpenter and he traded his skills for any food they could not grow.  Her family of 17 ate well.  They knew money was short, but they were able to eat.

Our governor opened up lists to more people but there isn't enough of the vaccine for all of those people.  Most places still are only vaccinating health care workers, teachers and over 65 because that is all the vaccine they have.

[movingforward]

Mar 9, 2021 23:31:17 GMT -5 Ryan said:

Mar 9, 2021 21:23:39 GMT -5 movingforward said:

We are vaccinating quickly in my state. I just looked tonight and 25% have now received at least one dose. Here 65+ can get vaccinated and anyone 16+ with at least one high risk condition. This encompasses a lot of people and is great for just getting shots in arms.

I think by the end of May we will be getting pretty much back to normal. Some people I know seem to be scared to death of getting back to normal. I wonder how many are going to need psychological help in returning to the world.

I think it will be hard to go back to pre-COVID times.  5 years ago I never concerned myself with getting sick, the thought literally never entered my head.  In the last couple years, I was a little more careful when the flu was spreading around because being sick is so much worse now that I'm a bit older.  Now, after really not seeing anyone indoors for a year, I don't know how it will be once we aren't wearing masks any more.  I'm assuming the numbers will be so low at that point that at some point it will just be an after thought.

I have always been a bit of a germaphobe...anytime someone would cough or sneeze around me I would kind of turn my body the opposite direction. I was like this way before covid. I enjoy getting out and living life though so I never let things like that stop me. Honestly, covid hasn't changed much for me. I have always been big on sanitizing my hands, etc. I plan to get back to doing all the things I did prior to covid. Of course, my state has been open since May so I have been doing indoor dining once a week since summer. Since it is over a 100 degrees here in the summer I went to the gym 4 days a week. I have even flown a couple of times during the pandemic. Honestly, I'm not sure how I would have done had I lived in one of the states that remained shutdown for several months. It would have made me highly depressed. I know it isn't a highly popular opinion on this board but I never agreed with fully shutting down past 30-45 days to give businesses time to get PPE in place. 50% on indoor dinning and retail always seemed very reasonable to me. Obviously, we need to stop large scale events until most are vaccinated (or we can at least require you be vaccinated to attend).

[Deleted]

Mar 10, 2021 10:04:58 GMT -5 movingforward said:

I plan to get back to doing all the things I did prior to covid. Of course, my state has been open since May so I have been doing indoor dining once a week since summer. Since it is over a 100 degrees here in the summer I went to the gym 4 days a week. I have even flown a couple of times during the pandemic. Honestly, I'm not sure how I would have done had I lived in one of the states that remained shutdown for several months. It would have made me highly depressed. I know it isn't a highly popular opinion on this board but I never agreed with fully shutting down past 30-45 days to give businesses time to get PPE in place. 50% on indoor dinning and retail always seemed very reasonable to me. Obviously, we need to stop large scale events until most are vaccinated (or we can at least require you be vaccinated to attend).

I know what you mean- no matter what you do there are people who will either tell you you're living your life in fear and people who will tell you you're being reckless. I feel slightly guilty when people tell me they haven't hugged their grandchildren in over a year. I see mine every 2 months or so (3-hour road trip) and take the girls out for haircuts. I've done road trips to SC because Dad is in LTC there and have had small family gatherings there with my siblings. I haven't had groceries or meals delivered. OTOH, I cut down the number of grocery trips, mask diligently indoors in public places (even in areas not required by law) and have no idea when I'll feel comfortable with large-scale indoor events such as concerts and movies even after I'm vaccinated.

[mollyanna58]

I signed up in the vaccine registry today.  I should be eligible in the next phase, which opens Monday.

[haapai]

Mar 10, 2021 8:29:40 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Here the rural areas are getting done faster for some reason.  Most of the rural counties are sitting at 20-30% first dose done, but the Twin Cities area is at 16-17%  Probably a lower percentage of the population in the over 65 age group in the metro area now that I think about it.

That's what the national map shows too.  The most rural states with the biggest logistical challenges seem to be doing the best. 

It sorta makes sense to me after living in a small town for a while.  In many small towns, the potential vaccination sites are few and fairly obvious and everyone wants the credit for getting things going and everyone knows who to contact to get things done.  The people that deliver meals on wheels may also be school bus drivers and they know the custodian and principal of the high school.  They probably also know both pharmacists, both doctors, and every nurse, PA, and dentist in town.  Things can come together fairly quickly and few people get missed. 

[stillmovingforward]

Plus in a small town it's easier to find someone who can answer for vaccine questions. Everyone knows my DD1 is almost done with medical school. Everywhere she goes, people ask her about the vaccine and covid. They trust her because they watched her grow up. There are a lot of people who will get the vaccine now because she explained it to them and they trust her but not the news. It takes her forever to run errands!

[wvugurl26]

In WV there's one state list to sign up for. The local health departments schedule from that list. I suspect other smaller more rural states may have the same.

Other bigger states seem to have many lists and it's a hassle and difficult to chase down appointments.

My brother is eligible in MD due to his job. He's just going to try and get a leftover from a no show. Then they'll schedule the second dose.

I have personally noticed some of the not getting it crowd in DH's family coming around. My family believes in all vaccines.

[azucena]

Mar 10, 2021 10:54:21 GMT -5 mollyanna58 said:

I signed up in the vaccine registry today.  I should be eligible in the next phase, which opens Monday.

Molly - watch this website for your state.  There may already be appts available for 3/15.  If you look in a more rural area, you'll likely see more openings.

www.vaccinespotter.org/

[Deleted]

Mar 10, 2021 11:31:36 GMT -5 wvugurl26 said:

In WV there's one state list to sign up for. The local health departments schedule from that list. I suspect other smaller more rural states may have the same.

Other bigger states seem to have many lists and it's a hassle and difficult to chase down appointments.

A single list would be great!  I signed up on 7 lists in MO starting January 4.  There was a state list that specifically said it didn't co-ordinate with other lists- including my County list!  i found the site I used through a post on NextDoor and returned the favor by posting the vaccinespotter link.

[Ryan]

Mar 10, 2021 10:04:58 GMT -5 movingforward said:

Mar 9, 2021 23:31:17 GMT -5 Ryan said:

I think it will be hard to go back to pre-COVID times.  5 years ago I never concerned myself with getting sick, the thought literally never entered my head.  In the last couple years, I was a little more careful when the flu was spreading around because being sick is so much worse now that I'm a bit older.  Now, after really not seeing anyone indoors for a year, I don't know how it will be once we aren't wearing masks any more.  I'm assuming the numbers will be so low at that point that at some point it will just be an after thought.

I have always been a bit of a germaphobe...anytime someone would cough or sneeze around me I would kind of turn my body the opposite direction. I was like this way before covid. I enjoy getting out and living life though so I never let things like that stop me. Honestly, covid hasn't changed much for me. I have always been big on sanitizing my hands, etc. I plan to get back to doing all the things I did prior to covid. Of course, my state has been open since May so I have been doing indoor dining once a week since summer. Since it is over a 100 degrees here in the summer I went to the gym 4 days a week. I have even flown a couple of times during the pandemic. Honestly, I'm not sure how I would have done had I lived in one of the states that remained shutdown for several months. It would have made me highly depressed. I know it isn't a highly popular opinion on this board but I never agreed with fully shutting down past 30-45 days to give businesses time to get PPE in place. 50% on indoor dinning and retail always seemed very reasonable to me. Obviously, we need to stop large scale events until most are vaccinated (or we can at least require you be vaccinated to attend).

I think if you would've told me that I would've stayed pretty locked down for a year based on the COVID statistics for people my age, there is no way I would've believed you.  My state was locked down until around May, so indoor dining was out.  When summer came, we just did outdoor dining to scratch that itch.  Once school started back up, the numbers immediately kept going up and no dining experience really convinced me that it was worth it to put myself at risk.  I think that was the problem for me, I just kept looking at certain situations (friend's house, plane, indoor dining) and I just kept thinking that one event is not worth it.  Add it all up, you have a year of quarantine.  

The turning point for me was when my wife got COVID and you really see how many people are potentially impacted by your potential carelessness.  We fortunately did not have a big list to call, but still it wasn't fun.  Once the vaccine was on the horizon, I just kept telling myself I was going to stay put until it's a done deal.

THe long covid is really the thing that I don't want to deal with.  Even though 95% of the people are fine, I still know some random people that can't exercise after 3-4 months.

[stillmovingforward]

IDK, once i got in the groove, it was really easy to keep with the restrictions in our state (which are serious and still in place). But i had/have a daily reminder of how bad it is with the medical student coming and going from the hospital and clinics.

[movingforward]

Mar 10, 2021 14:54:03 GMT -5 Ryan said:

Mar 10, 2021 10:04:58 GMT -5 movingforward said:

I have always been a bit of a germaphobe...anytime someone would cough or sneeze around me I would kind of turn my body the opposite direction. I was like this way before covid. I enjoy getting out and living life though so I never let things like that stop me. Honestly, covid hasn't changed much for me. I have always been big on sanitizing my hands, etc. I plan to get back to doing all the things I did prior to covid. Of course, my state has been open since May so I have been doing indoor dining once a week since summer. Since it is over a 100 degrees here in the summer I went to the gym 4 days a week. I have even flown a couple of times during the pandemic. Honestly, I'm not sure how I would have done had I lived in one of the states that remained shutdown for several months. It would have made me highly depressed. I know it isn't a highly popular opinion on this board but I never agreed with fully shutting down past 30-45 days to give businesses time to get PPE in place. 50% on indoor dinning and retail always seemed very reasonable to me. Obviously, we need to stop large scale events until most are vaccinated (or we can at least require you be vaccinated to attend).

I think if you would've told me that I would've stayed pretty locked down for a year based on the COVID statistics for people my age, there is no way I would've believed you.  My state was locked down until around May, so indoor dining was out.  When summer came, we just did outdoor dining to scratch that itch.  Once school started back up, the numbers immediately kept going up and no dining experience really convinced me that it was worth it to put myself at risk.  I think that was the problem for me, I just kept looking at certain situations (friend's house, plane, indoor dining) and I just kept thinking that one event is not worth it.  Add it all up, you have a year of quarantine.  

The turning point for me was when my wife got COVID and you really see how many people are potentially impacted by your potential carelessness.  We fortunately did not have a big list to call, but still it wasn't fun.  Once the vaccine was on the horizon, I just kept telling myself I was going to stay put until it's a done deal.

THe long covid is really the thing that I don't want to deal with.  Even though 95% of the people are fine, I still know some random people that can't exercise after 3-4 months.

Yeah, the long hauler effects are not something I would want to deal with. I feel like the risk of eating with one other person in a restaurant that is only 50% full is pretty low. When we go eat on Saturday there is never anyone even remotely close to us (especially when you go eat dinner at 5PM). Now that I am fully vaccinated I feel extremely comfortable. My entire team at work has now been vaccinated and we just got back from a lunch outing for someone's birthday. It was really nice as we haven't had a staff lunch in a year. I really enjoyed the interaction. Tomorrow we are actually doing an in-person staff meeting. I'm SO tired of zoom! We will still be keeping flexibility in the office, with a combo of working in the office and at home (probably 2-3 days in the office each week depending on what is going on).

[TheOtherMe]

Seeing the long hauler effects and living alone convinced me to err way on the side of caution.  

This state never had a serious lockdown which is why we have had so many deaths per capita.  We never had a state mask mandate.  There was some shutdowns early on, but the state is basically open now.

You won't find me with a bunch of maskless people in a restaurant at 100% capacity.

I know too many people who have died or have gotten seriously ill and I have my own pre-existing conditions.

I feel nervous about getting the 2nd vaccine tomorrow.  I'm not sure if I'm nervous or excited beyond my dreams.  

[wvugurl26]

My grandma got her first vaccine today. She is 90. Second dose on 4/7.

I'm so relieved. She wants to go out more. I've been telling her after shot.

[movingforward]

Just talked to a friend I used to work with. She and her husband received the J&J vaccine yesterday. This is the first of anyone I know to get the J&J vaccine. She said she is feeling a little puny today but not bad. She and her husband are extremely outgoing and frequently went to bars prior to covid. My guess is they are going to be great test subjects for j&j in a couple of weeks.

[Deleted]

A cautionary tale from my area, with a really clear explanation of what the vaccines can and can't do. www.click2houston.com/news/local/2021/03/10/17-brenham-nursing-home-residents-contract-covid-19-after-getting-shots/ 

[haapai]

Mar 10, 2021 20:18:26 GMT -5 @donethat said:

A cautionary tale from my area, with a really clear explanation of what the vaccines can and can't do. www.click2houston.com/news/local/2021/03/10/17-brenham-nursing-home-residents-contract-covid-19-after-getting-shots/ 

FWIW, clicking on the link above does not get me to a useful place.  This does not mean that you are a bad or ignorant person.  It just means that I cannot get to the place that you think that I can get to effortlessly. 

I kinda want to get to that place and check it out.  I'm willing to hold hands with you and try to figure out how to get there or figure out together why neither of us can get there.