Vaccinated

[Miss Tequila]

Mar 3, 2021 18:26:31 GMT -5 Opti said:

Mar 3, 2021 18:09:47 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

He and my youngest never got Covid. They weren’t tested but neither had any symptoms.

My fever breaks when the medicine kicks in and then comes back.

The problem with saying it is only people that have had Covid that get side effects is that’s not what I’m seeing play out with people I know in real life. My 32 year old niece never had Covid and she went through the same thing. Her mom had minimal side effects. A few friends that never had it had some serious side effects, and then others had none. It’s not always the ones that had Covid that get the serious side effects.

I do worry about people getting this vaccine year after year if these side effects are the risk. As I said in a previous post, I will get the vaccine because I know what it’s like to have severe Covid. Someone that didn’t have it or only had mild Covid, would probably be less likely to have my thoughts.

So ... I said the reaction to the vaccine is generally stronger if you have had Covid.  Since your husband wasn't tested it is possible he had asymptomatic Covid. Reactions vary. I know one coworker that had three days of side effects and more people had chills after the second shot than the first. 

Given about 10% of the population has had a vaccine shot in the US we are still learning. Which is why I posted "generally" not "always" or some other modifier. Since I work in healthcare, people who have complained to me about side effects have followed it up with, its still better than Covid. Meaning at least there, people are OK with the tradeoff.

I said in my original post that I will take the side effects over severe Covid. People like me aren’t the ones I’m worried about. I have a genuine concern that people aren’t going to subject themselves to this each year if they didn’t go through what I went through.

I heard that the side effects could be brutal but until I experienced them, I didn’t understand how bad they were. Again...still better than getting Covid!

[Miss Tequila]

Mar 3, 2021 18:23:47 GMT -5 susana1954 said:

Actually, I read that getting sick with the second shot was a GOOD sign.  It means that your body is seriously building antibodies.

I had almost no reaction with the first shot.  The soreness in my arm was gone in about 30 minutes, a lot faster than any other vaccination I have ever had.  Ironically, I would have felt better if I had had a reaction.  I've had procedures, etc. before that work for 80% of those having it.  Guess who is always in that 20% it doesn't?  I also read that the vaccine is less effective for people who are overweight.  That wasn't reassuring either!

All I can do, though, is pray that it works. 

I hope your experience is just like your sisters.

[jerseygirl]

Actual Covid disease is so variable from asymptotic to severe, seems vaccine reactions likewise variable

[TheOtherMe]

I was out of it for about 24 hours after the 1st vaccine.  We shall see what happens on March 11.

[raeoflyte]

My in-laws are already complaining that we better not have to get this every year. They get a flu and pneumonia shot every year. I don't understand why they think this is any different except that theyre drinking the crazies kool-aid.

[jerseygirl]

After first vaccine yesterday sore top of arm and a little tired very mild headache this morning
Cold now and blankets weren’t enough - but glass of wine solved that!!

[Miss Tequila]

Mar 3, 2021 18:50:27 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

My in-laws are already complaining that we better not have to get this every year. They get a flu and pneumonia shot every year. I don't understand why they think this is any different except that theyre drinking the crazies kool-aid.

I think that is part of what has me worried. I get the flu shot almost every year and I’ve never had anything but a sore arm. We need to get vaccinated and most likely every year. How many people are going to do it if the side effects are so unpleasant? This isn’t me saying people shouldn’t get it. This is me worrying that people won’t do it

[NastyWoman]

I got my second shot today as well as a real time lesson in correlation is not causation.

For my first shot I had a sore arm, a slight headache and I was dizzy. Today (it has been just a few hours) slight headache, sore arm and the dizziness again. However, the dizziness disappeared after I realized I was just dehydrated (both times) because I went to one of those mass vaccination sites and I have a decades long fear of having to go to the bathroom when in line. That fear is even worse now of course, so I just didn't drink - result dizziness. Enough liquids took care of that problem.

I will report later on the real side effects if any.

ETA: this time it only took 35 minutes to get my shot and that included the 30 minute observation time as they had separated those who came for the second dose from those who came for the first. The latter group did have to deal with waiting in line though it did not look bad.

[Ryan]

Mar 3, 2021 18:56:06 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Mar 3, 2021 18:50:27 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

My in-laws are already complaining that we better not have to get this every year. They get a flu and pneumonia shot every year. I don't understand why they think this is any different except that theyre drinking the crazies kool-aid.

I think that is part of what has me worried. I get the flu shot almost every year and I’ve never had anything but a sore arm. We need to get vaccinated and most likely every year. How many people are going to do it if the side effects are so unpleasant? This isn’t me saying people shouldn’t get it. This is me worrying that people won’t do it

Out of my informal survey of people that have gotten the shot, most people's side effects are minimal.  I'd say 45% had no side effects outside of a sore arm, 45% had fatigue, and 10% felt pretty lousy for a day.  My wife was rundown with COVID, but the 1st COVID shot literally left her feeling so tired, nauseous, and sick that she was legitimately questioning why she even got the vaccine....not during the illness but even days afterwards.  She said that she knew getting it was the right thing, but it did have her questioning herself because the sickness was worse than actually being sick.  Luckily, she is really the only person that I know that had a reaction like that.

[alabamagal]

At my workplace we had access to vaccine in the healthcare provider category, so most people at work got 1st shot in Jan and 2nd shot 2weeks ago. There is a lot of talk about side effects (sore arms, fatigue, etc), but the talk is more like “battle scars” or “I survived the vaccine ”. Not really complaints. I understand that some people may take that as scaring some people off, but I don’t think most who had the shot are trying to that.

[Opti]

I'm not that worried about yearly shots in the future yet because we haven't even made it through round 1. From NBC's tracker the amount of vaccine per state per 100K population varies significantly. Alaska has vaccinated 14% of its population fully but it also has 23,272 doses per 100K of population. Puts in perspective to me why NJ is only at 8.4% as their doses per 100K population is 16,857. Georgia is even lower at 12,334 which makes their 7.3% fully vaccinated rate seem reasonable.


www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/map-covid-19-vaccination-tracker-across-u-s-n1252085

[Miss Tequila]

After about 36 hours, my side effects suddenly went away. I’m ok with a day and a half of feeling horrible to help protect me against Covid. That was much worse!

My 70 year old BIL had his shot the same day as me and had nothing beyond a sore arm. My niece’s 33 year old boyfriend was down for 3 days. He was super sick in the fall but tested negative for Covid. Now we are thinking it was a false positive. Niece also got pretty sick from the shot but they live together. Maybe we had a lot more asymptotic cases in my family than we thought.

[thyme4change]

Mar 3, 2021 18:56:06 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Mar 3, 2021 18:50:27 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

My in-laws are already complaining that we better not have to get this every year. They get a flu and pneumonia shot every year. I don't understand why they think this is any different except that theyre drinking the crazies kool-aid.

I think that is part of what has me worried. I get the flu shot almost every year and I’ve never had anything but a sore arm. We need to get vaccinated and most likely every year. How many people are going to do it if the side effects are so unpleasant? This isn’t me saying people shouldn’t get it. This is me worrying that people won’t do it

By nature, they will have to reformulate the vaccine every year - just as they do with the flu. Maybe future iterations of the vaccine will be more advanced and have lighter side effects.

[Opti]

Up to 50% of people who had COVID-19 in Iceland were asymptomatic after health officials did broad lab testing of the population there.


Nearly 40% of children ages 6 to 13 tested positive for COVID-19, but were asymptomatic, according to just published research from the Duke University BRAVE Kids study. While the children had no symptoms of COVID-19, they had the same viral load of SARS-CoV-2 in their nasal areas, meaning that asymptomatic children had the same capacity to spread the virus compared to others who had symptoms of COVID-19.

www.uchealth.org/today/the-truth-about-asymptomatic-spread-of-covid-19/

Articles vary significantly on what they think are asymptomatic cases. 

[Miss Tequila]

Mar 4, 2021 10:53:44 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Mar 3, 2021 18:56:06 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

I think that is part of what has me worried. I get the flu shot almost every year and I’ve never had anything but a sore arm. We need to get vaccinated and most likely every year. How many people are going to do it if the side effects are so unpleasant? This isn’t me saying people shouldn’t get it. This is me worrying that people won’t do it

By nature, they will have to reformulate the vaccine every year - just as they do with the flu. Maybe future iterations of the vaccine will be more advanced and have lighter side effects.

I hope so! I’ve never had side effects like that from a vaccine. I’ve had the flu 3 times in my life and still never had a reaction to the flu vaccine. While I will always get the Covid vaccine, I fear that if a lot of people get bad side effects, the people will to get it in the future will drop.

[azucena]

Mar 4, 2021 11:47:10 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Mar 4, 2021 10:53:44 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

By nature, they will have to reformulate the vaccine every year - just as they do with the flu. Maybe future iterations of the vaccine will be more advanced and have lighter side effects.

I hope so! I’ve never had side effects like that from a vaccine. I’ve had the flu 3 times in my life and still never had a reaction to the flu vaccine. While I will always get the Covid vaccine, I fear that if a lot of people get bad side effects, the people will to get it in the future will drop.

Anecdotal but my husband was tiring of our precautions as I'm the risk averse one by a long shot.  Anyway, he slept from 12:30 in the afternoon to 9 am after his second dose because he was so wiped out and also had chills.  He said if that was anything like covid, he was happy to be vaccinated.  Even with that reaction, he'll choose to do it annually if needed.

[pulmonarymd]

The side effects from this vaccine may be related to how effective the mRNA vaccines are, far better than the flu vaccine. It will be interesting to see what the side effects of an influenza vaccine made from the mRNA technology and if it is more effective than the current ones

[justme]

24 hours later and I just have a really sore arm after my first dose of Moderna. I might have been a little more tired than normal yesterday. 

[Miss Tequila]

Mar 4, 2021 13:09:42 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

The side effects from this vaccine may be related to how effective the mRNA vaccines are, far better than the flu vaccine. It will be interesting to see what the side effects of an influenza vaccine made from the mRNA technology and if it is more effective than the current ones

Interesting. I have had the flu three times and twice it was after I had the flu shot.

[thyme4change]

Studies are showing that people with asymptomatic cases are still getting lung damage. They **think** it will be temporary.

If even mild cases are causing permanent lung impairment, people may put up with a difficult vaccine annually. Especially people with other respiratory problems.

[debthaven]

Here (France) they are now officially saying that people who have had Covid should only get one shot. 

The ophthalmologist who vaccinated me last Sunday emailed DH to say that he received the vaccine and DH is confirmed for Sunday morning. SUCH a relief!!!

The French government has finally decided to open the mass vaccination centers on weekends. Such brilliant planning, having vaccination centers open on weekends during a pandemic!!! In 10 days pharmacists here will be able to vaccinate too. 

Sunday can't come soon enough! I've been looking for a new ophthalmo, so at least he'll get a new patient out of it! (And I'm sure I'm not the only one!)  

[lynnerself]

Got my vaccine 3 hours ago. I have a headache, but I had a little before hand and had a 1/2 bottle of wine with lunch. Also suffer from migraines. So not sure of cause.

I took migraine meds, even tho I am avoiding NSAID for 24 hours.

[debthaven]

I was told to take paracetemol but not iboprufen. 

[countrygirl2]

DD has a sore arm, gave her an ibuprofen today. She hasn't said much more. She has eaten ok and I think is fine.

Dinner, hubs a steak and baked potato, DD had Subway, half for lunch, half for dinner. I just ate some kippers with crackers. I don't know what else I want.  Had half a egg mcmuffin with no cheese and coffee this morning then the kippers, wasn't hungry today. Maybe a can of soup or something later.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Mar 4, 2021 17:16:12 GMT -5 debthaven said:

I was told to take paracetemol but not iboprufen. 

Yep.  Ibuprofen dampens the inflammatory response you need (and want) in order to make antibody.  

[lynnerself]

I can't find any exact data on sumatriptan or hydrocodone and the vaccine (my migraine meds), but in general everything says to keep talking any normal meds.

[debthaven]

The Walk of the Penguin Mich thanks for explaining. I had a really bad case of lumbago last week. I couldn't remember which I was allowed to take, so I took neither. 

[TheOtherMe]

My doctor's office finally sent me a link to sign up--in the next small town over.  I can't figure out how to do just shot #2, so I will keep my Walgreen's appointment next Thursday,.

[debthaven]

Miss Tequila I'm so sorry! I have been wanting to thank you for sharing that the same thing happened to you! I definitely have "foot in mouth" disease LOL.

I've had a couple more friends mention that "they'd do anything to get vaccinated early!" But I learned my lesson and I just kept my mouth shut.

Sometimes (with reasonable people, like my boss) I answer "it's worth checking the list of comorbidities, because you never know. Even if only one spouse is eligible, having one spouse vaccinated still helps protect you both."

However I no longer say that to my "close" friends. After that incident with K I decided it's not rocket science to look up who is entitled to be vaccinated now. If you're truly motivated to be vaccinated ASAP, you can FGI. Otherwise, you can wait.

[Miss Tequila]

Mar 4, 2021 19:20:55 GMT -5 debthaven said:

Miss Tequila I'm so sorry! I have been wanting to thank you for sharing that the same thing happened to you! I definitely have "foot in mouth" disease LOL.

I've had a couple more friends mention that "they'd do anything to get vaccinated early!" But I learned my lesson and I just kept my mouth shut.

Sometimes (with reasonable people, like my boss) I answer "it's worth checking the list of comorbidities, because you never know. Even if only one spouse is eligible, having one spouse vaccinated still helps protect you both."

However I no longer say that to my "close" friends. After that incident with K I decided that it's not rocket science to look up who in our age group is entitled to be vaccinated. If you're really that motivated to be vaccinated ASAP, you can FGI. Otherwise, just wait for your age group.

Lol! You are so welcome. I guess I’m not someone in denial of my weight so I guess I don’t expect someone else to be. I sure learned my lesson. I was just trying to be helpful!