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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2020 13:42:08 GMT -5
It was shortly after the inauguration--you remember that one; it was the biggest inauguration in the history of mankind  I don't even remember what the Tweet was about. I've been hoping that he will be unpresidented on Tuesday. Just watching stores in NYC being boarded up in anticipation of bad new for him and thought that, geez, even during all the flap about the hanging chads and Bush v Gore, Bush and Gore were at least civilized. After SCOTUS decided in Bush's favor, Gore graciously conceded to Bush and accepted defeat. Bush was equally as gracious toward Gore. Dems weren't happy, Repubs were jubilant, but there weren't threats of bodily harm, no fear of rioting or any kind of civil unrest. Make America Decent Again. |
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Post by teen persuasion on Nov 1, 2020 13:46:57 GMT -5
I feel like we've BEEN unpresidented for a while now.
But, yeah, let's make it official for Trump.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2020 13:49:08 GMT -5
I feel like we've BEEN unpresidented for a while now. But, yeah, let's make it official for Trump. Actually, we've been non-presidented! I keep hearing about his leadership and/or the leadership of the repubs. That's not leadership; it's lack of leadership. |
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Post by teen persuasion on Nov 1, 2020 13:55:59 GMT -5
I feel like we've BEEN unpresidented for a while now. But, yeah, let's make it official for Trump. Actually, we've been non-presidented! I keep hearing about his leadership and/or the leadership of the repubs. That's not leadership; it's lack of leadership. Honestly, it's not just non-leadership, it's anti-leadership. He and "his" party are actively breaking things down and rolling progress back. |
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Post by Anne_in_VA on Nov 1, 2020 17:34:45 GMT -5
Yesterday I was listening to two people who are staunch republicans discuss Trump vs Biden and all they could do was say how great Trump was and about all the awards he won for inclusivity and working for non-white causes as well as for people with disabilities while trash talking Biden the whole time. I bit my tongue to keep from asking about Trumps racism, mockery of the military and people with disabilities since I knew that wouldn’t change their minds. I pretended to be watching my grandkids play instead.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 1, 2020 17:50:29 GMT -5
It was shortly after the inauguration--you remember that one; it was the biggest inauguration in the history of mankind I don't even remember what the Tweet was about. I've been hoping that he will be unpresidented on Tuesday. Just watching stores in NYC being boarded up in anticipation of bad new for him and thought that, geez, even during all the flap about the hanging chads and Bush v Gore, Bush and Gore were at least civilized. After SCOTUS decided in Bush's favor, Gore graciously conceded to Bush and accepted defeat. Bush was equally as gracious toward Gore. Dems weren't happy, Repubs were jubilant, but there weren't threats of bodily harm, no fear of rioting or any kind of civil unrest. Make America Decent Again. November 01, 2020 Trump plans to declare victory if he takes election night lead: AxiosPresident Trump has told those in his orbit he intends to prematurely declare victory on election night if early returns are favorable to him despite uncounted ballots that could lead to a loss, Axios reported Sunday. The president has discussed the plan in detail with confidants, the publication reported. Complete article here: Trump plans to declare victory if he takes election night lead: Axios |
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Post by mary2029 on Nov 1, 2020 19:42:37 GMT -5
It was shortly after the inauguration--you remember that one; it was the biggest inauguration in the history of mankind I don't even remember what the Tweet was about. I've been hoping that he will be unpresidented on Tuesday. Just watching stores in NYC being boarded up in anticipation of bad new for him and thought that, geez, even during all the flap about the hanging chads and Bush v Gore, Bush and Gore were at least civilized. After SCOTUS decided in Bush's favor, Gore graciously conceded to Bush and accepted defeat. Bush was equally as gracious toward Gore. Dems weren't happy, Repubs were jubilant, but there weren't threats of bodily harm, no fear of rioting or any kind of civil unrest. Make America Decent Again. November 01, 2020 Trump plans to declare victory if he takes election night lead: AxiosPresident Trump has told those in his orbit he intends to prematurely declare victory on election night if early returns are favorable to him despite uncounted ballots that could lead to a loss, Axios reported Sunday. The president has discussed the plan in detail with confidants, the publication reported. Complete article here: Trump plans to declare victory if he takes election night lead: AxiosThat is a big IF. States that are undecided / haven't counted their votes yet will not grant him their electoral votes; I doubt if even Fox will grant him PA, OH or NC unless he is clearly ahead. Just because he says he can declare victory, doesn't make it legit. He said that we were rounding the curve for COVID too. Does not surprise me in the least. He's stated multiple times that he doesn't believe in the peaceful transition of power. Thankfully, he gave the government plenty of warning that he was going to contest this. If it takes the 2 months to do it, then all the better... his followers would be standing back and standing by is better than rioting. |
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 1, 2020 20:38:03 GMT -5
Yesterday I was listening to t wo people who are staunch republicans discuss Trump vs Biden and all they could do was say how great Trump was and about all the awards he won for inclusivity and working for non-white causes as well as for people with disabilities while trash talking Biden the whole time. I bit my tongue to keep from asking about Trumps racism, mockery of the military and people with disabilities since I knew that wouldn’t change their minds. I pretended to be watching my grandkids play instead. The awards he makes up? He claimed he got Michigan's Man of the Year Award. He didn't. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2020 20:41:49 GMT -5
weltschmerz The awards he makes up? He claimed he got Michigan's Man of the Year Award. He didn't. And there was a very good reason why he didn't: Michigan doesn't have a Man of the Year Award!
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 1, 2020 20:45:30 GMT -5
Yesterday I was listening to two people who are staunch republicans discuss Trump vs Biden and all they could do was say how great Trump was and about all the awards he won for inclusivity and working for non-white causes as well as for people with disabilities while trash talking Biden the whole time. I bit my tongue to keep from asking about Trumps racism, mockery of the military and people with disabilities since I knew that wouldn’t change their minds. I pretended to be watching my grandkids play instead. The mental health community will be studying trump supporters' mind sets for years to come. They will hopefully determine why trump supporters fell for all his lies and gross misinformation over the years. |
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Post by Anne_in_VA on Nov 1, 2020 21:00:57 GMT -5
Yesterday I was listening to two people who are staunch republicans discuss Trump vs Biden and all they could do was say how great Trump was and about all the awards he won for inclusivity and working for non-white causes as well as for people with disabilities while trash talking Biden the whole time. I bit my tongue to keep from asking about Trumps racism, mockery of the military and people with disabilities since I knew that wouldn’t change their minds. I pretended to be watching my grandkids play instead. The mental health community will be studying trump supporters' mind sets for years to come. They will hopefully determine why trump supporters fell for all his lies and gross misinformation over the years. Even my DH believes in him! We don’t discuss politics this year! He refuses to believe all the “lies” about him and no one will be able to convince him any different. |
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Post by TheOtherMe on Nov 2, 2020 7:59:58 GMT -5
I'm seeing more and more of my cousins posting Trump 2020 on FB.
When I thought about them, 90% of them have never lived more than 10 miles from where they were born. They have never been around people who are not just like them. Yes, they have been on vacations but that doesn't teach diversity.
Rural Iowans and total racists. And they are my "family" by blood.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 2, 2020 8:39:06 GMT -5
November 01, 2020 Trump plans to declare victory if he takes election night lead: AxiosPresident Trump has told those in his orbit he intends to prematurely declare victory on election night if early returns are favorable to him despite uncounted ballots that could lead to a loss, Axios reported Sunday. The president has discussed the plan in detail with confidants, the publication reported. Complete article here: Trump plans to declare victory if he takes election night lead: AxiosThat is a big IF. States that are undecided / haven't counted their votes yet will not grant him their electoral votes; I doubt if even Fox will grant him PA, OH or NC unless he is clearly ahead. Just because he says he can declare victory, doesn't make it legit. He said that we were rounding the curve for COVID too. Does not surprise me in the least. He's stated multiple times that he doesn't believe in the peaceful transition of power. Thankfully, he gave the government plenty of warning that he was going to contest this. If it takes the 2 months to do it, then all the better... his followers would be standing back and standing by is better than rioting. I agree that his declaration will mean nothing until the states finish their tallies. After a lifetime of panicking over imagined worst case scenarios of what will happen in the near future, I am really hoping the potential scenarios we are all preparing for are not going to happen and we all look silly for having thought they would. I'm hoping our collective anxiety (on both sides) is overblown. We shall see. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 2, 2020 9:14:17 GMT -5
I'm seeing more and more of my cousins posting Trump 2020 on FB. When I thought about them, 90% of them have never lived more than 10 miles from where they were born. They have never been around people who are not just like them. Yes, they have been on vacations but that doesn't teach diversity. Rural Iowans and total racists. And they are my "family" by blood. At the bottom of each of my posts: "Fascism is cured by reading, and racism is cured by traveling.”— Miguel de Unamuno |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2020 9:18:39 GMT -5
Tennesseer The mental health community will be studying trump supporters' mind sets for years to come. They will hopefully determine why trump supporters fell for all his lies and gross misinformation over the years.That's easy. I'm not part of the mental health community and don't play one on TV, but their reason they fell for it is the same as the reason why the Nazis fell for Hitler.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 2, 2020 9:40:47 GMT -5
Tennesseer The mental health community will be studying trump supporters' mind sets for years to come. They will hopefully determine why trump supporters fell for all his lies and gross misinformation over the years.That's easy. I'm not part of the mental health community and don't play one on TV, but their reason they fell for it is the same as the reason why the Nazis fell for Hitler. True. So no need to study again. Just republish the same books written about Nazi Germany but change the dates, country name, city and towns names mentioned and switch the name Hitler to Trump and be done with it. |
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 2, 2020 12:10:49 GMT -5
Tennesseer The mental health community will be studying trump supporters' mind sets for years to come. They will hopefully determine why trump supporters fell for all his lies and gross misinformation over the years.That's easy. I'm not part of the mental health community and don't play one on TV, but their reason they fell for it is the same as the reason why the Nazis fell for Hitler. Not necessarily. There were far worse economic conditions when Hitler took power. Worldwide depression, food shortages and an unemployment rate of 30%. Families were literally starving. Some joined Hitler for a change, some joined seeing it as a necessity to get a loaf of bread for their kids. I don't think our country's economic situation is great, but I don't think the circumstances are as dire. You might be low paid, but there is work for you. You might not be able to afford all the food you want, but there is plenty of food and assistance programs (both government and private) to get you some food. There are definitely people falling through the cracks, and maybe those people have a good reason to jump off the "business as usual" train. But what about all the people whose economic situation is fine, and relatively unchanged from the last 2 Presidents? Why do they think this is working for them? |
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Post by TheOtherMe on Nov 2, 2020 12:22:10 GMT -5
I'm seeing more and more of my cousins posting Trump 2020 on FB. When I thought about them, 90% of them have never lived more than 10 miles from where they were born. They have never been around people who are not just like them. Yes, they have been on vacations but that doesn't teach diversity. Rural Iowans and total racists. And they are my "family" by blood. At the bottom of each of my posts: "Fascism is cured by reading, and racism is cured by traveling.”— Miguel de Unamuno I would like to put that on FB with no comment. Is that okay with you? I also know they won't know it's about them. |
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Post by gs11rmb on Nov 2, 2020 12:35:17 GMT -5
I agree that his declaration will mean nothing until the states finish their tallies. After a lifetime of panicking over imagined worst case scenarios of what will happen in the near future, I am really hoping the potential scenarios we are all preparing for are not going to happen and we all look silly for having thought they would. I'm hoping our collective anxiety (on both sides) is overblown. We shall see. I work in downtown Atlanta and my organization was damaged during the George Floyd riots in April. We're erecting barriers and plywood coverings over windows in anticipation. Georgia has been categorized as 'in play' so there's fears that regardless of the outcome there will be trouble. I hope they are wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2020 14:20:22 GMT -5
thyme4change But what about all the people whose economic situation is fine, and relatively unchanged from the last 2 Presidents? Why do they think this is working for them?Probably because they don't understand the difference between the economy and the stock market!
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 2, 2020 14:27:27 GMT -5
thyme4change But what about all the people whose economic situation is fine, and relatively unchanged from the last 2 Presidents? Why do they think this is working for them?Probably because they don't understand the difference between the economy and the stock market! Or, they are just racist. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 2, 2020 16:27:48 GMT -5
At the bottom of each of my posts: "Fascism is cured by reading, and racism is cured by traveling.”— Miguel de Unamuno I would like to put that on FB with no comment. Is that okay with you? I also know they won't know it's about them. ABSOLUTELY. FINE TO POST ON FB. GO! (Besides, I'm not Miguel de Unamuno.  ) |
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 2, 2020 16:41:51 GMT -5
I agree that his declaration will mean nothing until the states finish their tallies. After a lifetime of panicking over imagined worst case scenarios of what will happen in the near future, I am really hoping the potential scenarios we are all preparing for are not going to happen and we all look silly for having thought they would. I'm hoping our collective anxiety (on both sides) is overblown. We shall see. I work in downtown Atlanta and my organization was damaged during the George Floyd riots in April. We're erecting barriers and plywood coverings over windows in anticipation. Georgia has been categorized as 'in play' so there's fears that regardless of the outcome there will be trouble. I hope they are wrong. I stopped by my local PetSmart today to pickup a couple things and they were boarding up their storefront windows. I asked the sales clerk if maybe someone had driven into the building hence the plywood. But she said no, in case there is trouble with election results. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 2, 2020 16:43:41 GMT -5
thyme4change But what about all the people whose economic situation is fine, and relatively unchanged from the last 2 Presidents? Why do they think this is working for them?Probably because they don't understand the difference between the economy and the stock market! Like trump! Trump said as the stock market rises the national debt falls. |
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thyme4change But what about all the people whose economic situation is fine, and relatively unchanged from the last 2 Presidents? Why do they think this is working for them?Probably because they don't understand the difference between the economy and the stock market! Like trump! Trump said as the stock market rises the national debt falls. OMG! I missed that one. As the market rises, the national debt falls? And people listen to that and believe it? Whoa! |
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The mental health community will be studying trump supporters' mind sets for years to come. They will hopefully determine why trump supporters fell for all his lies and gross misinformation over the years. Even my DH believes in him! We don’t discuss politics this year! He refuses to believe all the “lies” about him and no one will be able to convince him any different. I was just telling DBF yesterday that it’s horrible how Trump had divided the United States of America. The states aren’t united, there’s such deep divisions among us citizens, that it’s even divided families. And so many people on both sides are so fed up over certain things, and what we believe is just plain right and wrong, that I don’t even see a middle ground. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 2, 2020 20:10:37 GMT -5
Springsteen quotes poem on radio show: 'We are rudderless and joyless' under TrumpThere’s no art in this White House.By Elayne Griffin Baker There’s no literature, no poetry, no music. There are no pets in this White House, no loyal man’s best friend, no Socks the family cat, no kids’ science fairs. No time when the president takes off his blue suit red tie uniform and becomes human, except when he puts on his white shirt and khaki pants uniform and hides from the American people to play golf. There are no images of the First Family enjoying themselves together in a moment of relaxation. No Obamas on the beach in Hawaii moments, or Bushes fishing in Kennebunkport. No Reagans on horseback, no Kennedys playing touch football on the Cape. Where’d that country go? Where did all the fun, the joy and the expression of love and happiness go? We used to be the country that did the Ice Bucket Challenge and raised millions for charity. We used to have a President that calmed and soothed the nation instead dividing it, and a First Lady who planted a garden instead of ripping one out. We are rudderless and joyless. We have lost the cultural aspects of society that make America great. We have lost our mojo, our fun, our happiness, our cheering on of others. The shared experience of humanity that makes it all worth it. The challenges and the triumphs that we shared and celebrated. The unique can-do spirit that America has always been known for. We are lost. We have lost so much in so short a time.
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