Now Police Shooting Children

[weltschmerz]

A 13-year-old boy with autism was shot by police after his mother called for help managing a 'mental breakdown'


A 13-year-old boy was seriously injured after being shot by a police officer in Salt Lake City on Friday night, according to his mother.



Golda Barton said that her son Linden Cameron, who has Asperger syndrome, experienced a "mental breakdown" earlier in the day. It had been her first day back at work in nearly a year, and Linden was having trouble coping, she confirmed to CNN in an email.

www.cnn.com/2020/09/08/us/salt-lake-city-police-shoot-boy-autism-trnd/index.html

[thyme4change]

All lives matter, even white kids.

[Opti]

Perceived mentally ill people get killed at a rate greater than blacks and native Americans. When it comes to shootings, its 6 to 1 in the last article I read on this. 

[thyme4change]

Sept 10, 2020 9:06:46 GMT -5 Opti said:

Perceived mentally ill people get killed at a rate greater than blacks and native Americans. When it comes to shootings, its 6 to 1 in the last article I read on this. 

If that isn't an argument for a different approach, I don't know what is.

[Opti]

Policing protocols really need to change. I was horrified by this and also the naked man with a spit hood on his head while its snowing outside. 

[Cheesy FL-Vol]

Sept 10, 2020 10:54:43 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Sept 10, 2020 9:06:46 GMT -5 Opti said:

Perceived mentally ill people get killed at a rate greater than blacks and native Americans. When it comes to shootings, its 6 to 1 in the last article I read on this. 

If that isn't an argument for a different approach, I don't know what is.

I seem to recall reading somewhere from time to time that deaf people have been shot as well. They couldn't hear police directive, maybe their back was to police so they weren't picking up on visual cues.

[jerseygirl]

Terrible that a child was killed, would be better if alternative to police were available. Schools usually have counselors but even then seem to see police called to schools. Maybe if there can be better procedures in place before?? So sad
So many sad deaths in the news now. Looked up information about police associated deaths and found statistics collected by FBI (link)
over the past 4 years
About 25% victims with mental problems (link) , to me these seem the saddest. Even though police get some training dealing with people with mental problems isn’t their expertise. Think in some bigger cities social service person sent with police. Huge problem is mentally compromised person (drug induced sometimes) with a weapon. Horrible for families since they know person has problems but the family often has no good resources to care for person. Mental hospital often will keep person for short time then back to family - or streets , even worse. So upsetting for all

www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/four-years-in-a-row-police-nationwide-fatally-shoot-nearly-1000-people/2019/02/07/0cb3b098-020f-11e9-9122-82e98f91ee6f_story.html%3foutputType=amp

[weltschmerz]

...and that's why "defunding the police" and allocating more money for mental health and crisis intervention teams is a good idea.

globalnews.ca/news/7024773/defunding-police-funding-mental-health/

[thyme4change]

Sept 10, 2020 11:30:53 GMT -5 Cheesy FL-Vol said:

Sept 10, 2020 10:54:43 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

If that isn't an argument for a different approach, I don't know what is.

I seem to recall reading somewhere from time to time that deaf people have been shot as well. They couldn't hear police directive, maybe their back was to police so they weren't picking up on visual cues.

I have heard that too.

I'm so sick of this "judged by 12" shit. That should apply to everyone.

[billisonboard]

Sept 10, 2020 11:36:42 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Terrible that a child was killed, would be better if alternative to police were available. Schools usually have counselors but even then seem to see police called to schools. Maybe if there can be better procedures in place before?? So sad
So many sad deaths in the news now. Looked up information about police associated deaths and found statistics collected by FBI (link)
over the past 4 years
About 25% victims with mental problems (link) , to me these seem the saddest. Even though police get some training dealing with people with mental problems isn’t their expertise. Think in some bigger cities social service person sent with police. Huge problem is mentally compromised person (drug induced sometimes) with a weapon. Horrible for families since they know person has problems but the family often has no good resources to care for person. Mental hospital often will keep person for short time then back to family - or streets , even worse. So upsetting for all

www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/four-years-in-a-row-police-nationwide-fatally-shoot-nearly-1000-people/2019/02/07/0cb3b098-020f-11e9-9122-82e98f91ee6f_story.html%3foutputType=amp

Re bolded comment. I have personal experience with one case of this happening. I was teaching a small group of middle school students with learning disabilities. One day, I had one disrupting the learning of others. I asked him to leave the classroom. He refused and upped the disruptive behavior. I had an aide take the class to a different room to remove his audience and called in an administrator. After the necessary defiant outburst, the kid did agree to go to the administrator's office. The paperwork was done for suspension and a guardian was contacted. Permission was given to have the student walk home (small town). Student refused to leave the school. He was informed that legally he was trespassing and the police could be called. He still refused to go. So the police were called. The officer patiently explained the administrator was correct. He indicated he would arrest, handcuff and physically remove him if that was what the boy wanted. The kid decided that wouldn't be necessary and left on his own. 

A fun part of it was the administrator was like 70, had attended that school as a kid, came straight back and started teaching there after college. There were grandparents of current students who had him as a teacher. Everyone worshipped him. But this particular kid was new to town, having been sent there because of problems he was having in the big city. "Ed" spent the whole time with this sense of disbelief a student wasn't just doing what he said to do.