1000 In Ga. dumb enough....

[kadee79]

to vote twice in the primary election?   Looks like it....

Georgia's top election official said Tuesday that there were up to 1,000 potential instances of voters casting two ballots -- one by absentee ballot and one in person on election day -- across about 100 counties during the June presidential and statewide primaries and the August runoff elections.

"Let me be clear: It is a felony to double vote in Georgia, and we prosecute. ... A double voter knows exactly what they're doing, diluting the votes of each and every voter ... that follows the law. Those that make the choice to game the system are breaking the law, and as secretary of state, I will not tolerate it," Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a Republican, said, adding that his office will work to prevent this from happening in November, but not detailing exactly how he plans to do that.


Raffensperger said that his office will be turning the suspected cases over to the state attorney general, local district attorneys and also federal prosecuting attorneys, should they want to take on these cases. He called double voting a "serious felony," noting that if convicted, voters who cast two ballots face a minimum sentence of one year in prison, and a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison, plus up to a $100,000 fine.

The secretary asserted that "there's no excuse under the law for double voting," ending his news conference by specifically saying that "intentionality is not an excuse under the law." However, several election experts were skeptical of this many instances of doubling voting, and noted that poll worker data input errors or administrative failures, like wrongly issuing a regular ballot to a voter instead of a provisional one, could lead to this happening.

abcnews.go.com/Politics/georgia-secretary-state-alleges-1000-cases-double-voting/story?id=72877190

[TheHaitian]

But didn’t Trump tell them to do it?
And his AG said he wasn’t sure it was a crime depending on the state

[Cheesy FL-Vol]

I hope they get prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law to teach others that dear leader is full of crap.

[thyme4change]

Later in the article....



Maybe some grandstanding going on?

Also, I would love to see the data on how many duel votes there were. What party they were involved with, and how many were investigated from each party.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Our only case of voter fraud last round was a Trump supporter who was so terrified of the illegal brown hoards coming to steal her vote that she voted in her county then drove 2 hours to the neighboring county to vote again.

So I can tell you which party it'll be if it happens again here in Iowa.

You'd think someone would have caught on their cell phone tons of buses pulling into a middle of nowhere rural county and thousands of brown people they've never seen before flowing out of them to vote.

Those deep state people are good. 

[jerseygirl]

This year, about 20,000 mail in votes disqualified for fraud in an election in Paterson NJ. Also about 80,000 disqualified in
Brooklyn Democratic primary
www.google.com/amp/s/amp.northjersey.com/amp/5233032002

www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/nyregion/nyc-mail-ballots-voting.amp.html

www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/08/05/84000-mail-in-ballots-disqualified-in-nyc-primary-election/amp/

So thinking there will be a big mess in the 2020 election. Not only fraud is cause but big problem might be all the confusion from the large numbers of mail in and absentee ballots anticipated
In NJ, our Democratic Governor decreed every registered voter will be mailed a ballot. If you go to polling station you will get a provisional ballot. Not confident at all this years Presidential election will go smoothly. Remember hanging chads in Florida?

[billisonboard]

Sept 9, 2020 12:50:55 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

This year, about 20,000 mail in votes disqualified for fraud in an election in Paterson NJ. Also about 80,000 disqualified in
Brooklyn Democratic primary
www.google.com/amp/s/amp.northjersey.com/amp/5233032002

www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/nyregion/nyc-mail-ballots-voting.amp.html

www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/08/05/84000-mail-in-ballots-disqualified-in-nyc-primary-election/amp/

So thinking there will be a big mess in the 2020 election. Not only fraud is cause but big problem might be all the confusion from the large numbers of mail in and absentee ballots anticipated
In NJ, our Democratic Governor decreed every registered voter will be mailed a ballot. If you go to polling station you will get a provisional ballot. Not confident at all this years Presidential election will go smoothly. Remember hanging chads in Florida?

Thank you so much for the link so we can fact check. It clearly states something totally different than what you say about the Paterson election.

[jerseygirl]

Sept 9, 2020 13:08:56 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Sept 9, 2020 12:50:55 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

This year, about 20,000 mail in votes disqualified for fraud in an election in Paterson NJ. Also about 80,000 disqualified in
Brooklyn Democratic primary
www.google.com/amp/s/amp.northjersey.com/amp/5233032002

www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/nyregion/nyc-mail-ballots-voting.amp.html

www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/08/05/84000-mail-in-ballots-disqualified-in-nyc-primary-election/amp/

So thinking there will be a big mess in the 2020 election. Not only fraud is cause but big problem might be all the confusion from the large numbers of mail in and absentee ballots anticipated
In NJ, our Democratic Governor decreed every registered voter will be mailed a ballot. If you go to polling station you will get a provisional ballot. Not confident at all this years Presidential election will go smoothly. Remember hanging chads in Florida?

Thank you so much for the link so we can fact check. It clearly states something totally different than what you say about the Paterson election.

My error, meant to say almost 20% of votes not 20,000 votes
But the issue is the same- large numbers of mail in votes disqualified

[billisonboard]

Sept 9, 2020 14:03:31 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Sept 9, 2020 13:08:56 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Thank you so much for the link so we can fact check. It clearly states something totally different than what you say about the Paterson election.

My error, meant to say almost 20% of votes not 20,000 votes
But the issue is the same- large numbers of mail in votes disqualified

That was one. The other was declaring "fraud". Yes, they were disqualified.

[jerseygirl]

Sept 9, 2020 14:09:17 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Sept 9, 2020 14:03:31 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

My error, meant to say almost 20% of votes not 20,000 votes
But the issue is the same- large numbers of mail in votes disqualified

That was one. The other was declaring "fraud". Yes, they were disqualified.

Disqualified for signatures, multiple ballots bundled illegally - fraud or do you have a more precise definition?

[NastyWoman]

Sept 8, 2020 23:32:19 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

But didn’t Trump tell them to do it?
And his AG said he wasn’t sure it was a crime depending on the state

 The spray paint addict told them it was their right to do this to make sure their votes were properly counted.

The really stupid thing though is that these people showed up in person, the supposedly foolproof method to get counted so why mail in their votes in the first place?

[billisonboard]

Sept 9, 2020 14:34:16 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Sept 9, 2020 14:09:17 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

That was one. The other was declaring "fraud". Yes, they were disqualified.

Disqualified for signatures, multiple ballots bundled illegally - fraud or do you have a more precise definition?

I thought disqualified worked well when talking about the whole.

[Opti]

Sept 9, 2020 14:03:31 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Sept 9, 2020 13:08:56 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Thank you so much for the link so we can fact check. It clearly states something totally different than what you say about the Paterson election.

My error, meant to say almost 20% of votes not 20,000 votes
But the issue is the same- large numbers of mail in votes disqualified

The issue is different if this is the Paterson election you've posted about in multiple threads. Voter fraud was committed by several people to influence a local election. They were caught and their illegal votes were thrown out. This is how it should work when things like this pop up.

Now the Brooklyn is a different animal and I didn't see a breakdown of the issues and how they plan to correct them. The post office needs to postmark ballots so that issue is on them. Late ballots, you'd need to track if the post office isn't processing in time versus people who mail them late even knowing they are late. The signature thing they believe was faulty instructions so hopefully they are correcting that. 

[jerseygirl]

I’m bringing these issues up multiple times in hopes that some of the folks here will contact their state or local election boards to set forth criteria to avoid confusion with mail in or absentee ballots in states where this has never been done in such large numbers
Think actual fraud is less of a threat than election boards trying to cope with large numbers that haven’t been experienced
I’d hate to see but think it might be likely that results will confusion and delay and even more stress, Court challenges etc
By dismissing concerns about mail in ballots routinely- because Trump - seems dismissive

[pulmonarymd]

Sept 9, 2020 18:03:06 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

I’m bringing these issues up multiple times in hopes that some of the folks here will contact their state or local election boards to set forth criteria to avoid confusion with mail in or absentee ballots in states where this has never been done in such large numbers
Think actual fraud is less of a threat than election boards trying to cope with large numbers that haven’t been experienced
I’d hate to see but think it might be likely that results will confusion and delay and even more stress, Court challenges etc
By dismissing concerns about mail in ballots routinely- because Trump - seems dismissive

And you don’t think trump is purposely caused no the confusion? Come on now, you are clearly smarter than this.

[jerseygirl]

Sept 9, 2020 18:15:43 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Sept 9, 2020 18:03:06 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

I’m bringing these issues up multiple times in hopes that some of the folks here will contact their state or local election boards to set forth criteria to avoid confusion with mail in or absentee ballots in states where this has never been done in such large numbers
Think actual fraud is less of a threat than election boards trying to cope with large numbers that haven’t been experienced
I’d hate to see but think it might be likely that results will confusion and delay and even more stress, Court challenges etc
By dismissing concerns about mail in ballots routinely- because Trump - seems dismissive

And you don’t think trump is purposely caused no the confusion? Come on now, you are clearly smarter than this.

Look I’m not a Trump supporter nor do I think everything is his fault
I DO see numerous problems waiting around the corner for our country in this election and the country has enough stress and confusion slready . Remember in the 2016 Democratic primary large number of Brooklyn residents were removed from voter rolls? No certainty but likely many would have voted for Bernie.
www.cityandstateny.com/articles/politics/campaigns-elections/new-york-city-purged-voters-2016-it-wasnt-mistake.html
www.google.com/amp/s/justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/one-fifth-all-mail-ballots-disqualified-nyc-primary-signaling-possible%3famp
br]You seem to dismiss anything that might imply any issues with Democrats
Cuomo and nursing homes??
You’re smarter than this

[pulmonarymd]

Sept 9, 2020 18:18:10 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Sept 9, 2020 18:15:43 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

And you don’t think trump is purposely caused no the confusion? Come on now, you are clearly smarter than this.

Look I’m not a Trump supporter nor do I think everything is his fault
I DO see numerous problems waiting around the corner for our country in this election and the country has enough stress and confusion slready . Remember in the 2016 Democratic primary large number of Brooklyn residents were removed from voter rolls? No certainty but likely many would have voted for Bernie.
www.cityandstateny.com/articles/politics/campaigns-elections/new-york-city-purged-voters-2016-it-wasnt-mistake.html
www.google.com/amp/s/justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/one-fifth-all-mail-ballots-disqualified-nyc-primary-signaling-possible%3famp
br]You seem to dismiss anything that might imply any issues with Democrats
Cuomo and nursing homes??
You’re smarter than this

Actually I don’t. But you seem to defend the indefensible when it comes to trump. Cuomo and the nursing homes was an unsolvable problem. Hospitals were overrun and they had no solution to decompress them. Planning was not done. They made a mistake. But again, trump is the president. It is his job to make sure that the nation has the resources to deal with this pandemic. And, from his own words, he knew this was going to be bad, and he chose to downplay it, and not prepare for. His failure is far greater.

You seem to ignore the fact that I was part of discussions on how to deal with this early on. I know what we didn’t know enough about back then, and how we could deal with this. How hindsight is 20/20. The decision to send them back to the nursing home was a mistake, but the result of many factors, the most important one being the overwhelming disaster that was going on. Your refusal to understand that is difficult to understand