Juneteenth in Tulsa? Seriously?

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Jun 12, 2020 9:03:35 GMT -5 Lizard Queen said:

Jun 12, 2020 8:55:43 GMT -5 swamp said:

depends on the fart load.  

Exactly! Viral load=>fart load.

ETA:. I thought of a slogan for this, too:

Be a smart feller, don't be a fart smeller
😆

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Jun 12, 2020 8:56:37 GMT -5 swamp said:

At first I thought that some of this stuff was just coincidence and that the Trump team was just really obtuse. 

Now I'm pretty sure they pull this crap intentionally. 

Trump wants race riots and a race war. It gives him an excuse to kill brown people and dominate them with his powerful military. 

Hitler was his hero and mentor. Fact.

[swamp]

Jun 12, 2020 13:55:19 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

Jun 12, 2020 8:56:37 GMT -5 swamp said:

At first I thought that some of this stuff was just coincidence and that the Trump team was just really obtuse. 

Now I'm pretty sure they pull this crap intentionally. 

Trump wants race riots and a race war. It gives him an excuse to kill brown people and dominate them with his powerful military. 

Hitler was his hero and mentor. Fact.

I think trump is a complete ass, and he probably does hero worship hitler.  However, is he really able to plan that far in advance to create a race war?   I think Trump only cares about trump, screw everyone else. 

Or you could be right.  I dunno.   Whatever it is, the guy just ain't right. 

And I also wonder how he handles the cognitive dissonance of having a jewish wife/child and hero worshiping hitler. 

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Jun 12, 2020 14:01:11 GMT -5 swamp said:

Jun 12, 2020 13:55:19 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

Trump wants race riots and a race war. It gives him an excuse to kill brown people and dominate them with his powerful military. 

Hitler was his hero and mentor. Fact.

I think trump is a complete ass, and he probably does hero worship hitler.  However, is he really able to plan that far in advance to create a race war?   I think Trump only cares about trump, screw everyone else. 

Or you could be right.  I dunno.   Whatever it is, the guy just ain't right. 

And I also wonder how he handles the cognitive dissonance of having a jewish wife/child and hero worshiping hitler. 

Same way my grandmother handles being a racist but has a black best friend I suppose. 

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Jun 12, 2020 14:01:11 GMT -5 swamp said:

Jun 12, 2020 13:55:19 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

Trump wants race riots and a race war. It gives him an excuse to kill brown people and dominate them with his powerful military. 

Hitler was his hero and mentor. Fact.

I think trump is a complete ass, and he probably does hero worship hitler.  However, is he really able to plan that far in advance to create a race war?   I think Trump only cares about trump, screw everyone else. 

Or you could be right.  I dunno.   Whatever it is, the guy just ain't right. 

And I also wonder how he handles the cognitive dissonance of having a jewish wife/child and hero worshiping hitler. 

I think he does want a race war, or at the very least, he wouldn’t mind if it happened. He’s done too many things to fan the flames and increase hostility. It seems like he thinks this is all a game, and he doesn’t seem to have a problem playing with people’s lives. How he handled the pandemic is undeniable proof to that.

Melania is just his wife, we know what he thinks about women. I don’t get the impression they have a loving relationship, I’d be honestly surprised to learn that they do.

[Tennesseer]

I don't think trump wants to start an actual race war.  But I do believe all his work to divide the country over the years is a plan to possibly remain in power during a national emergency if he loses the election in November.  In trump's warped mind, f people of color are targeted just for being people of color they are simply collateral damage.

[Opti]

Jun 12, 2020 14:01:11 GMT -5 swamp said:

Jun 12, 2020 13:55:19 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

Trump wants race riots and a race war. It gives him an excuse to kill brown people and dominate them with his powerful military. 

Hitler was his hero and mentor. Fact.

I think trump is a complete ass, and he probably does hero worship hitler.  However, is he really able to plan that far in advance to create a race war?   I think Trump only cares about trump, screw everyone else. 

Or you could be right.  I dunno.   Whatever it is, the guy just ain't right. 

And I also wonder how he handles the cognitive dissonance of having a jewish wife/child and hero worshiping hitler. 

I don't know about the religions of his former wives, but Melania identifies as Catholic. His beloved daughter converted in order to marry Jared. I doubt he sees her as really Jewish.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

I don't think Trump is smart enough to orchestrate a race war.

He's like a toddler who found a way to get a reaction so now he's going to keep doing it.

Which would explain why he constantly flies flops on subjects.

He has no evil hidden agenda. I read a meme once that says Trump plays checkers Putin plays chess. Sums it up


Trump may dream big but he's not savy enough to create an actual coup. HE's a reality TV star trying to milk his fame The real.danger to democracy are the people pulling his strings like McConnell.

[billisonboard]

Jun 12, 2020 18:29:57 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

I don't think Trump is smart enough to orchestrate a race war.

He's like a toddler who found a way to get a reaction so now he's going to keep doing it.

Which would explain why he constantly flies flops on subjects.

He has no evil hidden agenda. I read a meme once that says Trump plays checkers Putin plays chess. Sums it up


Trump may dream big but he's not savy enough to create an actual coup. HE's a reality TV star trying to milk his fame The real.danger to democracy are the people pulling his strings like McConnell.

I think it is more

President Trump, the official said, is not playing “the sort of three-dimensional chess people ascribe to decisions like this. More often than not he’s just eating the pieces.” link

[Tennesseer]

Jun 12, 2020 19:00:03 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jun 12, 2020 18:29:57 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

I don't think Trump is smart enough to orchestrate a race war.

He's like a toddler who found a way to get a reaction so now he's going to keep doing it.

Which would explain why he constantly flies flops on subjects.

He has no evil hidden agenda. I read a meme once that says Trump plays checkers Putin plays chess. Sums it up


Trump may dream big but he's not savy enough to create an actual coup. HE's a reality TV star trying to milk his fame The real.danger to democracy are the people pulling his strings like McConnell.

I think it is more

President Trump, the official said, is not playing “the sort of three-dimensional chess people ascribe to decisions like this. More often than not he’s just eating the pieces.” link

Good article. Thanks.

[Cheesy FL-Vol]

Jun 12, 2020 18:29:57 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

I don't think Trump is smart enough to orchestrate a race war.

He's like a toddler who found a way to get a reaction so now he's going to keep doing it.

Which would explain why he constantly flies flops on subjects.

He has no evil hidden agenda. I read a meme once that says Trump plays checkers Putin plays chess. Sums it up


Trump may dream big but he's not savy enough to create an actual coup. HE's a reality TV star trying to milk his fame The real.danger to democracy are the people pulling his strings like McConnell.

Or Miller. That one is evil.

[swamp]

Jun 12, 2020 16:21:37 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

Jun 12, 2020 14:01:11 GMT -5 swamp said:

I think trump is a complete ass, and he probably does hero worship hitler.  However, is he really able to plan that far in advance to create a race war?   I think Trump only cares about trump, screw everyone else. 

Or you could be right.  I dunno.   Whatever it is, the guy just ain't right. 

And I also wonder how he handles the cognitive dissonance of having a jewish wife/child and hero worshiping hitler. 

I think he does want a race war, or at the very least, he wouldn’t mind if it happened. He’s done too many things to fan the flames and increase hostility. It seems like he thinks this is all a game, and he doesn’t seem to have a problem playing with people’s lives. How he handled the pandemic is undeniable proof to that.

Melania is just his wife, we know what he thinks about women. I don’t get the impression they have a loving relationship, I’d be honestly surprised to learn that they do.

I was referring to ivanka as his wife/child. 

[TheOtherMe]

If my dad ever looked at me the way he looks at Ivanka, I would have run so fast and never seen him again.

[Tennesseer]

Too late.  The horse left the barn a while ago.

Trump moves his Tulsa rally from Juneteenth to June 20 'out of respect'

In a rare reversal, President Donald Trump announced he's moving his first rally since March from June 19 to June 20 in Tulsa, Oklahoma, so as not to coincide with the Juneteenth holiday.

"Many of my African American friends and supporters have reached out to suggest that we consider changing the date out of respect for this Holiday, and in observance of this important occasion and all that it represents," Trump tweeted Friday night. "I have therefore decided to move our rally to Saturday, June 20th, in order to honor their requests."

Juneteenth is a day commemorating the end of slavery. For many black Americans, it is celebrated as an Independence Day.

Article here:  link

[ken a.k.a OMK]

Rare for trump. He doesn't listen to reason. I'm sure they convinced him it was bad for his campaign. That's all he cares about.....himself.

[Tennesseer]

Jun 13, 2020 7:58:03 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

Rare for trump. He doesn't listen to reason. I'm sure they convinced him it was bad for his campaign. That's all he cares about.....himself.

One thing for sure, trump did not write the tweet announcement. Too adult a statement.

[billisonboard]

"Many of my African American friends and supporters have reached out to suggest that we consider changing the date out of respect for this Holiday, and in observance of this important occasion and all that it represents," Trump tweeted Friday night. They have convinced me that I am so out of touch with this moment în our national history that I will not be able avoid saying things which will reflect poorly on me. "I have therefore decided to move our rally to Saturday, June 20th, in order to honor their requests."

[mary2029]

I looked at the Real Donald Trump twitter account as well as the POTUS twitter account and could bot find this tweet.
Since I don't belong to Twitter, are there some posts hidden from me? Is there another account that Trump uses?

ETA... nevermind, he has tweeted 30 times since then with tweets by others that are not in chronological orde. Sorry about the misdirection.

[thyme4change]

Jun 12, 2020 14:01:11 GMT -5 swamp said:

Jun 12, 2020 13:55:19 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

Trump wants race riots and a race war. It gives him an excuse to kill brown people and dominate them with his powerful military. 

Hitler was his hero and mentor. Fact.

I think trump is a complete ass, and he probably does hero worship hitler.  However, is he really able to plan that far in advance to create a race war?   I think Trump only cares about trump, screw everyone else. 

Or you could be right.  I dunno.   Whatever it is, the guy just ain't right. 

And I also wonder how he handles the cognitive dissonance of having a jewish wife/child and hero worshiping hitler. 

Maybe he admires Hitler's methods, commitment and "successes" in reaching his goals - but just wants to apply it to a different group of people.

[dannylion]

Jun 13, 2020 9:27:49 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

"Many of my African American friends and supporters have reached out to suggest that we consider changing the date out of respect for this Holiday, and in observance of this important occasion and all that it represents," Trump tweeted Friday night. They have convinced me that I am so out of touch with this moment în our national history that I will not be able avoid saying things which will reflect poorly on me. "I have therefore decided to move our rally to Saturday, June 20th, in order to honor their requests."

It is virtually certain that he is still going to say things that will reflect poorly on him.  Now he's just going to say them on a different day.  

[Opti]

Just one day different. Still a success for him, its not like he moved it to June 26th or even a different month.

[thyme4change]

To be fair...racism has been around for so long, and the KKK and other racists groups were/are so violent, is there a date that isn't the anniversary of some horrendous act?



www.businessinsider.com/trump-to-accept-nomination-in-florida-on-race-massacres-anniversary-2020-6

[kadee79]

Jun 12, 2020 16:21:37 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

Jun 12, 2020 14:01:11 GMT -5 swamp said:

Melania is just his wife, we know what he thinks about women. I don’t get the impression they have a loving relationship, I’d be honestly surprised to learn that they do.

Melania was taking questions some place & someone asked her, "Would you still be with DT if he wasn't rich?"...to which she replied.."Would he still be with me if I wasn't beautiful?"
Those may not be exact quotes, but darn close.  A heck of a reason for a relationship as far as I'm concerned.

[pulmonarymd]

Jun 13, 2020 14:20:38 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

Jun 12, 2020 16:21:37 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

Melania is just his wife, we know what he thinks about women. I don’t get the impression they have a loving relationship, I’d be honestly surprised to learn that they do.

Melania was taking questions some place & someone asked her, "Would you still be with DT if he wasn't rich?"...to which she replied.."Would he still be with me if I wasn't beautiful?"
Those may not be exact quotes, but darn close.  A heck of a reason for a relationship as far as I'm concerned.

Hasn't that always been the transaction that rich men and beautiful women have engaged in, she is just more blatant about it than most.

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Jun 12, 2020 20:41:05 GMT -5 swamp said:

Jun 12, 2020 16:21:37 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

I think he does want a race war, or at the very least, he wouldn’t mind if it happened. He’s done too many things to fan the flames and increase hostility. It seems like he thinks this is all a game, and he doesn’t seem to have a problem playing with people’s lives. How he handled the pandemic is undeniable proof to that.

Melania is just his wife, we know what he thinks about women. I don’t get the impression they have a loving relationship, I’d be honestly surprised to learn that they do.

I was referring to ivanka as his wife/child. 

Oops. My bad.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Jun 13, 2020 14:23:08 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Jun 13, 2020 14:20:38 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

Melania was taking questions some place & someone asked her, "Would you still be with DT if he wasn't rich?"...to which she replied.."Would he still be with me if I wasn't beautiful?"
Those may not be exact quotes, but darn close.  A heck of a reason for a relationship as far as I'm concerned.

Hasn't that always been the transaction that rich men and beautiful women have engaged in, she is just more blatant about it than most.

For all the crap people give her I was reading that she renegotiated her prenup before she moved to the White House.

She's a trophy wife but she's a smart trophy wife. She knows what the deal is.

I am betting they divorce after this.

[pulmonarymd]

Jun 13, 2020 18:54:03 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Jun 13, 2020 14:23:08 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Hasn't that always been the transaction that rich men and beautiful women have engaged in, she is just more blatant about it than most.

For all the crap people give her I was reading that she renegotiated her prenup before she moved to the White House.

She's a trophy wife but she's a smart trophy wife. She knows what the deal is.

I am betting they divorce after this.

She will have earned every dollar she gets

[billisonboard]

Jun 13, 2020 11:30:05 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Jun 12, 2020 14:01:11 GMT -5 swamp said:

I think trump is a complete ass, and he probably does hero worship hitler.  However, is he really able to plan that far in advance to create a race war?   I think Trump only cares about trump, screw everyone else. 

Or you could be right.  I dunno.   Whatever it is, the guy just ain't right. 

And I also wonder how he handles the cognitive dissonance of having a jewish wife/child and hero worshiping hitler. 

Maybe he admires Hitler's methods, commitment and "successes" in reaching his goals - but just wants to apply it to a different group of people.

I once took a grad class entitled "Educational Classics". We read a book each week and then took a turn leading a discussion. They were works like Plato's Republic and The Prince by Machiavelli. We also read Mein Kampf. I remember one student saying how horrified she was when she realized how much she agreed with what it was saying in regards to a strong sense of nationalism.

[oped]

It should be required reading for that reason. As should Marx, for similar reasons. My anarchist friends always get pissy when I tell them how much their worldview resembles Marx.