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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 20, 2020 13:43:43 GMT -5
This seems to be Michigan, judging from the Recall Whitmer sign I see in the background. I think it's more about the government infringing on the inalienable right to buy seeds. I see "Live Free Or Die" there, too. only problem is, it is more like "Live Free AND Die".
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 20, 2020 13:46:57 GMT -5
Question for everyone. If you were in charge of opening your state, what are the industries that have the highest reward and the lowest risk, so those should be open first? open up the restaurants to serve food to the poor. back by state funds or bonds.
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Post by lynnerself on Apr 20, 2020 14:07:40 GMT -5
Question for everyone. If you were in charge of opening your state, what are the industries that have the highest reward and the lowest risk, so those should be open first? I'm not in charge. But my governor has said the first open will be non emergency surgeries and other healthcare. I think she also mentioned retail sales for curbside pick up only.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2020 9:44:44 GMT -5
And why would taking a stance on guns control be impossible to pass off ? Gun control advocates use 'safety' as a verbal tool. Liberate from onerous restrictions seems quite reasonable. define. Any law that unduly restricts law abiding citizens, in regards to a constitutional right.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 21, 2020 12:36:52 GMT -5
Any law that unduly restricts law abiding citizens, in regards to a constitutional right. in situations like this, one must weigh their right to unlimited movement against other's rights to avoid infection.
freedom comes with responsibility.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 21, 2020 13:09:24 GMT -5
Any law that unduly restricts law abiding citizens, in regards to a constitutional right. in situations like this, one must weigh their right to unlimited movement against other's rights to avoid infection.
freedom comes with responsibility.
I am going to go back to the start. Come along if you want. President Trump sent out three tweets to "LIBERATE MINNESOTA","LIBERATE MICHIGAN",and "LIBERATE VIRGINIA. ...". He added to the third "and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!" My question dealt with his intent for these vague twwets. Was it to vote in GOP candidates in the next election, protest stay-at-home regulations, or something else? My concern is that his lack of specificity is problematic when he mentions the 2nd Amendment. I have no issue when it comes to electing officials who will support your position on guns. I have an issue with armed rebellion against state governments carrying out their legal role.
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Post by dondub on Apr 21, 2020 13:37:48 GMT -5
From a POTUS that has made the point that the armed people support him such as the police, veterans, and motorcycle gangs. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to read between all those lines.
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Post by deminmaine on Apr 21, 2020 14:21:19 GMT -5
A gathering of covidiots is known as a covfefe.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 21, 2020 14:39:05 GMT -5
A gathering of covidiots is known as a covfefe. Proof that this is all a government plot, and they have been working on this.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2020 10:34:40 GMT -5
Any law that unduly restricts law abiding citizens, in regards to a constitutional right. in situations like this, one must weigh their right to unlimited movement against other's rights to avoid infection.
freedom comes with responsibility.
Of course, I took that as a given. We actually never have true unlimited movement.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2020 10:36:21 GMT -5
in situations like this, one must weigh their right to unlimited movement against other's rights to avoid infection.
freedom comes with responsibility.
I am going to go back to the start. Come along if you want. President Trump sent out three tweets to "LIBERATE MINNESOTA","LIBERATE MICHIGAN",and "LIBERATE VIRGINIA. ...". He added to the third "and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!" My question dealt with his intent for these vague twwets. Was it to vote in GOP candidates in the next election, protest stay-at-home regulations, or something else? My concern is that his lack of specificity is problematic when he mentions the 2nd Amendment. I have no issue when it comes to electing officials who will support your position on guns. I have an issue with armed rebellion against state governments carrying out their legal role. Yes, he's heavily armed with the First Amendment.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 22, 2020 10:43:02 GMT -5
I am going to go back to the start. Come along if you want. President Trump sent out three tweets to "LIBERATE MINNESOTA","LIBERATE MICHIGAN",and "LIBERATE VIRGINIA. ...". He added to the third "and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!" My question dealt with his intent for these vague twwets. Was it to vote in GOP candidates in the next election, protest stay-at-home regulations, or something else? My concern is that his lack of specificity is problematic when he mentions the 2nd Amendment. I have no issue when it comes to electing officials who will support your position on guns. I have an issue with armed rebellion against state governments carrying out their legal role. Yes, he's heavily armed with the First Amendment. As are we all. I think it is great that we can voice our concerns with how others, especially those who have chosen to offer their services to be leaders, exercise their 1st Amendment right.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2020 10:57:35 GMT -5
Yes, he's heavily armed with the First Amendment. As are we all. I think it is great that we can voice our concerns with how others, especially those who have chosen to offer their services to be leaders, exercise their 1st Amendment right. Yes ! He can use the word liberate, like a gun control advocate can say a type of weapon, capacity of weapon is not 'needed'.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 22, 2020 11:28:15 GMT -5
I encourage people to note my Reply #35 as a refocus of the thread on President Trump's tweets and the danger they present.
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Post by seriousthistime on Apr 22, 2020 20:37:30 GMT -5
in situations like this, one must weigh their right to unlimited movement against other's rights to avoid infection.
freedom comes with responsibility.
I am going to go back to the start. Come along if you want. President Trump sent out three tweets to "LIBERATE MINNESOTA","LIBERATE MICHIGAN",and "LIBERATE VIRGINIA. ...". He added to the third "and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!" My question dealt with his intent for these vague twwets. Was it to vote in GOP candidates in the next election, protest stay-at-home regulations, or something else? My concern is that his lack of specificity is problematic when he mentions the 2nd Amendment. I have no issue when it comes to electing officials who will support your position on guns. I have an issue with armed rebellion against state governments carrying out their legal role. I am not sure it's so much Trump's tweets as the behind-the-scenes actions of his puppeteers, among them the Convention of States, funded by Mercer Family Foundation. Where the Koch brothers left off, Robert Mercer stepped up. theweek.com/speedreads/910330/some-antilockdown-protests-are-reportedly-being-organized-by-groups-funded-by-republican-megadonorsRobert Mercer is an upstanding guy. He is known as the guy who launched Trump into the presidency. www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/27/the-reclusive-hedge-fund-tycoon-behind-the-trump-presidencyMercer provided much of the funding for Cambridge Analytica. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_AnalyticaSo what appears on the surface to be grassroots, or even a movement fomented by the Trump tweets, goes way deeper.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 25, 2020 9:19:07 GMT -5
I am going to go back to the start. Come along if you want. President Trump sent out three tweets to "LIBERATE MINNESOTA","LIBERATE MICHIGAN",and "LIBERATE VIRGINIA. ...". He added to the third "and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!" My question dealt with his intent for these vague twwets. Was it to vote in GOP candidates in the next election, protest stay-at-home regulations, or something else? My concern is that his lack of specificity is problematic when he mentions the 2nd Amendment. I have no issue when it comes to electing officials who will support your position on guns. I have an issue with armed rebellion against state governments carrying out their legal role. Yes, he's heavily armed with the First Amendment. the first Amendment is there to protect us against him, strictly speaking.
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Post by Opti on Apr 25, 2020 9:34:20 GMT -5
I am going to go back to the start. Come along if you want. President Trump sent out three tweets to "LIBERATE MINNESOTA","LIBERATE MICHIGAN",and "LIBERATE VIRGINIA. ...". He added to the third "and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!" My question dealt with his intent for these vague twwets. Was it to vote in GOP candidates in the next election, protest stay-at-home regulations, or something else? My concern is that his lack of specificity is problematic when he mentions the 2nd Amendment. I have no issue when it comes to electing officials who will support your position on guns. I have an issue with armed rebellion against state governments carrying out their legal role. I am not sure it's so much Trump's tweets as the behind-the-scenes actions of his puppeteers, among them the Convention of States, funded by Mercer Family Foundation. Where the Koch brothers left off, Robert Mercer stepped up. theweek.com/speedreads/910330/some-antilockdown-protests-are-reportedly-being-organized-by-groups-funded-by-republican-megadonorsRobert Mercer is an upstanding guy. He is known as the guy who launched Trump into the presidency. www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/27/the-reclusive-hedge-fund-tycoon-behind-the-trump-presidencyMercer provided much of the funding for Cambridge Analytica. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_AnalyticaSo what appears on the surface to be grassroots, or even a movement fomented by the Trump tweets, goes way deeper. I agree. The Trump tweets may just be a cover and/or something he is doing because his campaign told him to. Trump and Jared are not as in charge of the re-election campaign as much as they think they are. They are however part of the fake news spreading machine. Creators of a bigger swamp because Mercer and others like him want that.
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Post by Opti on Apr 25, 2020 9:39:09 GMT -5
I encourage people to note my Reply #35 as a refocus of the thread on President Trump's tweets and the danger they present. What do you want us to do about it? His tweeting and other comments have always been a clear and present danger. Steve Bannon wants nothing less than to destroy America's democracy. He's happy to use Trump to do so.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 25, 2020 10:02:52 GMT -5
I encourage people to note my Reply #35 as a refocus of the thread on President Trump's tweets and the danger they present. What do you want us to do about it? His tweeting and other comments have always been a clear and present danger. Steve Bannon wants nothing less than to destroy America's democracy. He's happy to use Trump to do so. I want us vote him out of office in November. To that end, I highlight the continuing incidents which show why that is necessary. I know that for some those posts are unnecessary and for some pointless. And while there is a chance that all who read what is posted here fall into one or the other of those two categories, I operate on the assumption that there is at least one undecided person who doesn't. A favored tactic on the board is to yell "SQUIRREL". The particular post you quoted was to counter that being done in this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2020 10:20:27 GMT -5
I encourage people to note my Reply #35 as a refocus of the thread on President Trump's tweets and the danger they present. I would also like to refocus that his tweets aren't policy, and are equally protected by the first amendment. If you are a firm believer the the government is your nanny, you have a problem.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 25, 2020 10:36:31 GMT -5
I encourage people to note my Reply #35 as a refocus of the thread on President Trump's tweets and the danger they present. I would also like to refocus that his tweets aren't policy, and are equally protected by the first amendment. If you are a firm believer the the government is your nanny, you have a problem. I appreciate you refocusing on his tweets. Of course he had a First Amendment right to say just about anything he wishes. I am glad he says so much. It gives the American voter a wealth of information on which to assess his fitness for the job we hired him to do and are going to decide if we want him to continue to hold.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2020 10:41:57 GMT -5
I would also like to refocus that his tweets aren't policy, and are equally protected by the first amendment. If you are a firm believer the the government is your nanny, you have a problem. I appreciate you refocusing on his tweets. Of course he had a First Amendment right to say just about anything he wishes. I am glad he says so much. It gives the American voter a wealth of information on which to assess his fitness for the job we hired him to do and are going to decide if we want him to continue to hold. I didn't expect him to win the first time, nor the next time. He's responsible for how he portrays himself.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 27, 2020 19:57:11 GMT -5
Yale psychiatrist Bandy Lee: Lockdown protesters resemble “child soldiers” and “urban gangs”Dr. Bandy X. Lee says Trump is "practicing 'total authority' and putting his armed troops in the streets" A Yale psychiatrist has warned that pro-Trump lockdown protesters, who exhibit similar psychology as "child soldiers," could quickly turn into "armed troops in the streets" if the president loses his re-election bid. Dr. Bandy X. Lee, a forensic psychiatrist at the Yale School of Medicine, said the armed protests were a natural evolution of the loyalty President Trump demands from his supporters. Many of these protests have evidently been organized by deep-pocketed groups allied with the president. Lee, the author of the textbook "Violence," has been sounding the alarm about the danger posed by the president for years. She edited "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump" after his election, with a group of fellow mental health professionals. The book's authors recently started a chat series entitled "Is America in an Abusive Relationship With Its President?" Lee has also served as a project group leader for the World Health Organization Violence Prevention Alliance. She told Salon that Trump's recent call to "liberate" Democratic-led stateswas a dog whistle to his core supporters. "Subconsciously, it is a loyalty test for the people," Lee said. "In Africa, where I did some ethnographic work, child soldiers would be recruited and made to kill a family member to demonstrate their allegiance to the government and not to the family. Similarly, in urban gangs in America, one may be challenged to kill a police officer to prove one's willingness to uphold gang rules over societal rules. "When Donald Trump suggests that the virus be taken as a 'hoax', that people gather in churches or that people protest for their own sacrifice, he is actually testing people's loyalty to the 'laws' of his mind over the laws of nature, or even impulse for survival. The more he abuses them, the greater their devotion grows, since the psychological cost of admitting their mistake is ever higher — and so it becomes easier to dig a well of unreality than to see the obvious truth. Complete article here: Yale psychiatrist Bandy Lee: Lockdown protesters resemble “child soldiers” and “urban gangs”
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Post by billisonboard on May 1, 2020 8:33:35 GMT -5
While legal to bring firearms into the Michigan statehouse, what was the point of some of the protesters bringing their firearms to the anti-givernment rally other than to intimidate the governor and members of their state house. ... Perhaps they couldn't think of a logical argument to support their demands so they were using their dicks guns?
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Post by Tennesseer on May 1, 2020 8:34:44 GMT -5
While legal to bring firearms into the Michigan statehouse, what was the point of some of the protesters bringing their firearms to the anti-givernment rally other than to intimidate the governor and members of their state house. ... Perhaps they couldn't think of a logical argument to support their demands so they were using their dicks guns? Fixed.
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Post by thyme4change on May 1, 2020 8:38:25 GMT -5
Was the series of 'liberate {fill in the state}' tweets really a dog whistle, or was it just a whistle?
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Post by Tennesseer on May 12, 2020 9:38:06 GMT -5
Overkill? Anti-lockdown protesters carry weapons into North Carolina sandwich shopThe demonstration took place during the first full day of a phased-in reopening amid the coronavirus pandemic. A group of armed demonstrators protesting North Carolina's stay-at-home order walked the streets of Raleigh, North Carolina, this weekend, weapons slung over their shoulders, and were captured at a restaurant in photographs that went viral. Travis Long, a photojournalist with The News & Observer, said he shot the photos inside a Subway on Fayetteville Street in downtown Raleigh. One photo shows a protester carrying what appears to be an AT4 rocket launcher and two pistols in holsters on his waist. Another shows a protester holding a large weapon over his shoulder as he appears to take a selfie. Two of the demonstrators who appear in the photos are wearing masks. Complete article here: Anti-lockdown protesters carry weapons into North Carolina sandwich shop
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Post by dondub on May 12, 2020 10:02:44 GMT -5
Poor little boys.
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