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Post by billisonboard on Apr 11, 2020 10:47:32 GMT -5
Though this was a very interesting fact: At the onset of World War II, the U.S. military was the 19th largest force on the planet — smaller than Portugal. link |
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 11, 2020 10:57:34 GMT -5
Good read. Thanks.
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Post by dondub on Apr 11, 2020 11:13:21 GMT -5
Unfortunately the psychopathic warmongers have long been in charge of too much of our tax revenue and too many hearts and minds amongst We the People. I see nothing but a continuation of our ruinous levels of defense spending, the pseudo patriotism of America uber alles, and military interventions, occupations, and bases all over the world.
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Post by deadeyedick on Apr 11, 2020 11:42:30 GMT -5
Unfortunately the psychopathic warmongers have long been in charge of too much of our tax revenue and too many hearts and minds amongst We the People. I see nothing but a continuation of our ruinous levels of defense spending, the pseudo patriotism of America uber alles, and military interventions, occupations, and bases all over the world. There are some who are happy to have US bases. US based have done some good. South Korea for example probably wouldn’t be such a wonderful country without them. |
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 11, 2020 11:52:05 GMT -5
Unfortunately the psychopathic warmongers have long been in charge of too much of our tax revenue and too many hearts and minds amongst We the People. I see nothing but a continuation of our ruinous levels of defense spending, the pseudo patriotism of America uber alles, and military interventions, occupations, and bases all over the world. There are some who are happy to have US bases. US based have done some good. South Korea for example probably wouldn’t be such a wonderful country without them. But is it my responsibility to fund making South Korea a wonderful country? |
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Post by dondub on Apr 11, 2020 12:15:04 GMT -5
Unfortunately the psychopathic warmongers have long been in charge of too much of our tax revenue and too many hearts and minds amongst We the People. I see nothing but a continuation of our ruinous levels of defense spending, the pseudo patriotism of America uber alles, and military interventions, occupations, and bases all over the world. There are some who are happy to have US bases. US based have done some good. South Korea for example probably wouldn’t be such a wonderful country without them. Then you should call your political rep and suggest you Aussie’s take over that ‘responsibility’. Drop a few billion and raise your national debt to precarious levels. Maybe you can go have a fun vacay there. Maybe you have a son you can offer up as patriotic fodder. Do it Dick! |
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Post by deadeyedick on Apr 11, 2020 12:37:08 GMT -5
There are some who are happy to have US bases. US based have done some good. South Korea for example probably wouldn’t be such a wonderful country without them. Then you should call your political rep and suggest you Aussie’s take over that ‘responsibility’. Drop a few billion and raise your national debt to precarious levels. Maybe you can go have a fun vacay there. Maybe you have a son you can offer up as patriotic fodder. Do it Dick! All I know is that the world is better for US stewardship. The rate of conflict is lower since the end of WW2 than any other time in history. The US may not get it right every time, but if they relinquished their bases, someone else will happily fill that void and the world will be poorer for it. There must be answers for renumerating the US for this. |
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 11, 2020 12:49:02 GMT -5
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Post by dondub on Apr 11, 2020 12:49:14 GMT -5
Then you should call your political rep and suggest you Aussie’s take over that ‘responsibility’. Drop a few billion and raise your national debt to precarious levels. Maybe you can go have a fun vacay there. Maybe you have a son you can offer up as patriotic fodder. Do it Dick! All I know is that the world is better for US stewardship. The rate of conflict is lower since the end of WW2 than any other time in history. The US may not get it right every time, but if they relinquished their bases, someone else will happily fill that void and the world will be poorer for it. There must be answers for renumerating the US for this. Or remuneration! Ruminate on that. |
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 11, 2020 12:50:57 GMT -5
While the number of battle-related deaths (in the rate of people killed / 100,000 / year) has decreased, the total number of conflicts is rising. This tells us that, contrary to what we might think as weapon technology advances, violent conflicts are resulting in fewer battle deaths. While, there are more civil conflicts around the globe, these tend to be less catastrophic than wars between major powers. towardsdatascience.com/has-global-violence-declined-a-look-at-the-data-5af708f47fba |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 11, 2020 12:51:36 GMT -5
Then you should call your political rep and suggest you Aussie’s take over that ‘responsibility’. Drop a few billion and raise your national debt to precarious levels. Maybe you can go have a fun vacay there. Maybe you have a son you can offer up as patriotic fodder. Do it Dick! All I know is that the world is better for US stewardship. The rate of conflict is lower since the end of WW2 than any other time in history. The US may not get it right every time, but if they relinquished their bases, someone else will happily fill that void and the world will be poorer for it. There must be answers for renumerating the US for this. Don’t you support trump. He believes in America first, and wants us to pull out and abdicate the responsibility you think we should have. He does not think we get a good deal, don’t you remember? |
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Post by dondub on Apr 11, 2020 12:58:23 GMT -5
I’m sure Australia must be proud of the 521 dead from our intervention in Vietnam’s Civil War after we sold our valuable WW II ally Ho Chi Minh down the river so our psychopathic warmongers could pocket billions fighting Communism. And the 3000+ wounded was just a small price to pay for earnings per share and a chestful of fruit salad for military brass.
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 11, 2020 13:00:27 GMT -5
I’m sure Australia must be proud of the 521 dead from our intervention in Vietnam’s Civil War after we sold our valuable WW II ally Ho Chi Minh down the river so our psychopathic warmongers could pocket billions fighting Communism. And the 3000+ wounded was just a small price to pay for earnings per share and a chestful of fruit salad for military brass. Hey, there's a LOT of money in wars. |
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 11, 2020 13:02:58 GMT -5
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Post by deadeyedick on Apr 11, 2020 13:37:01 GMT -5
All I know is that the world is better for US stewardship. The rate of conflict is lower since the end of WW2 than any other time in history. The US may not get it right every time, but if they relinquished their bases, someone else will happily fill that void and the world will be poorer for it. There must be answers for renumerating the US for this. Don’t you support trump. He believes in America first, and wants us to pull out and abdicate the responsibility you think we should have. He does not think we get a good deal, don’t you remember? There are some bases he has no interest getting out of, for instance those who are strategically important for Israel, and this I support. |
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 11, 2020 13:44:26 GMT -5
Don’t you support trump. He believes in America first, and wants us to pull out and abdicate the responsibility you think we should have. He does not think we get a good deal, don’t you remember? There are some bases he has no interest getting out of, for instance those who are strategically important for Israel, and this I support. Support enough to pay additional taxes to your government for taking them over if the US pulled out? |
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Post by deadeyedick on Apr 11, 2020 14:23:30 GMT -5
There are some bases he has no interest getting out of, for instance those who are strategically important for Israel, and this I support. Support enough to pay additional taxes to your government for taking them over if the US pulled out? You don’t believe the US should support Israel? |
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 11, 2020 14:28:11 GMT -5
Support enough to pay additional taxes to your government for taking them over if the US pulled out? You don’t believe the US should support Israel? Do you believe Australia should support Israel? |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 11, 2020 14:49:17 GMT -5
Support enough to pay additional taxes to your government for taking them over if the US pulled out? You don’t believe the US should support Israel? No many of the issues in the world, and our issues in the Middle East stem from our support of Israel. Israel has a demographic problem if they wish to hold on to the West Bank. The Arab population is growing at a much faster rate than the Jewish population. So, eventually, the Jewish population will be a minority. They then have to choose to be a Jewish state or a democracy. As long as they continue their intransigence, we should re-evaluate or support. We should support them no more or less than any other country, to the extent that it is in our interest. Do you disagree? |
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Post by deadeyedick on Apr 11, 2020 15:39:39 GMT -5
You don’t believe the US should support Israel? Do you believe Australia should support Israel? I believe that the US and Australia should support Israel. Do you believe that they should? |
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Post by deadeyedick on Apr 11, 2020 15:42:42 GMT -5
You don’t believe the US should support Israel? No many of the issues in the world, and our issues in the Middle East stem from our support of Israel. Israel has a demographic problem if they wish to hold on to the West Bank. The Arab population is growing at a much faster rate than the Jewish population. So, eventually, the Jewish population will be a minority. They then have to choose to be a Jewish state or a democracy. As long as they continue their intransigence, we should re-evaluate or support. We should support them no more or less than any other country, to the extent that it is in our interest. Do you disagree? I do disagree. I’m an atheist but I believe that retaining a single Jewish state is better than creating another Muslim majority state. There are already 50+ of them. Don’t you believe in diversity? And science and innovation will suffer. |
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 11, 2020 16:00:39 GMT -5
Do you believe Australia should support Israel? I believe that the US and Australia should support Israel. Do you believe that they should? So if the US were to pull out, would you support Australia paying the full cost? |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 11, 2020 16:00:48 GMT -5
So how do you solve their demographic problem. And if you are so convinced it’s a good idea, take our place in the Mideast
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Post by deadeyedick on Apr 11, 2020 18:38:17 GMT -5
I believe that the US and Australia should support Israel. Do you believe that they should? So if the US were to pull out, would you support Australia paying the full cost? Maybe answer one question of mine first. |
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 11, 2020 19:01:24 GMT -5
So if the US were to pull out, would you support Australia paying the full cost? Maybe answer one question of mine first. Or answer my question which I asked first. |
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