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Post by Tennesseer on May 11, 2022 10:12:54 GMT -5
By zinnia seeds and scatter them all over the place. I like zinnias. They're great for a cutting garden. I really like the big, showy ones you can see from the street. Gotta keep the neighbors wishing they could grow flowers like mine lol. My peony bush has doubled in size in just a few days. Lots of buds, finally. I planted it 4 years ago, so it's taken a while. I've got another I planted last year, but it's still a tiny little thing. I don't expect to see any flowers this year on that one. My little crabapple in front along with my hostas are really starting to grow, too. I like looking out the window at them I assume by crabapple you mean a small tree. Careful about trimming it. If you do, expect small shoots coming out from its roots. It 'thinks' it ìs dying so it sends out shoots. How do I know this? Having problems with my one remaining crabapple and one I had cut down due to rotting of its trunk. Pain in the ass ornamental tree.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 16:57:07 GMT -5
It is currently 91degrees outside. My handy dandy moisture meter told me today that my tomatoes needed water, my little lemon tree didn’t. I’ve come to believe the moisture meter was one of my smarter purchases lately. Without it, I probably would’ve just watered everything again today, just because it’s so hot outside. That would’ve been bad for my little lemon tree, because the soil in its container is still somewhere between moist and wet from when I watered it Monday, even though the top of the soil looks mostly dry. It’s in a fairly large, white plastic pot. Plastic, so it won’t be so heavy, since I’ll have to move it inside during winter and back outside during spring. So of course, it holds moisture better in a plastic container, vs my tomatoes that are in fabric grow bags. My biggest tomato plant (the mistreated one) looks like it’s trying to escape its cage. I just tucked the longest branches back inside the cage. Am I supposed to do something else too? I cut off the lower leaves on all of them Monday, trying to keep the lowest leaves from being too close to the soil, and then today, one of them had leaves again almost touching the soil. Maybe I just missed those Monday. Since Mister cut the grass yesterday, maybe Newbie and I will venture out in the back yard to get a good look at my tiger lilies.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 17:34:51 GMT -5
Newbie did escort me across the yard to look at the tiger lilies. I meant to take pictures (I like being able to see what I started with as things grow), but I left my phone on the deck. There are 5. They look healthy as far as I can tell. They are green and it doesn’t look like anything has been nibbling on them. I’m really glad Mister didn’t mow them down yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 17:43:47 GMT -5
It is currently 91degrees outside. My handy dandy moisture meter told me today that my tomatoes needed water, my little lemon tree didn’t. I’ve come to believe the moisture meter was one of my smarter purchases lately. Without it, I probably would’ve just watered everything again today, just because it’s so hot outside. That would’ve been bad for my little lemon tree, because the soil in its container is still somewhere between moist and wet from when I watered it Monday, even though the top of the soil looks mostly dry. It’s in a fairly large, white plastic pot. Plastic, so it won’t be so heavy, since I’ll have to move it inside during winter and back outside during spring. So of course, it holds moisture better in a plastic container, vs my tomatoes that are in fabric grow bags. My biggest tomato plant (the mistreated one) looks like it’s trying to escape its cage. I just tucked the longest branches back inside the cage. Am I supposed to do something else too? I cut off the lower leaves on all of them Monday, trying to keep the lowest leaves from being too close to the soil, and then today, one of them had leaves again almost touching the soil. Maybe I just missed those Monday. Since Mister cut the grass yesterday, maybe Newbie and I will venture out in the back yard to get a good look at my tiger lilies. Nope, other than fertilize regularly because tomatoes are considered "heavy feeders". Yes, the moisture meter probably was a smart investment because there are so many variables like size of pot, type of pot, how much sun, type of plant, blah, blah.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 18:09:40 GMT -5
It is currently 91degrees outside. My handy dandy moisture meter told me today that my tomatoes needed water, my little lemon tree didn’t. I’ve come to believe the moisture meter was one of my smarter purchases lately. Without it, I probably would’ve just watered everything again today, just because it’s so hot outside. That would’ve been bad for my little lemon tree, because the soil in its container is still somewhere between moist and wet from when I watered it Monday, even though the top of the soil looks mostly dry. It’s in a fairly large, white plastic pot. Plastic, so it won’t be so heavy, since I’ll have to move it inside during winter and back outside during spring. So of course, it holds moisture better in a plastic container, vs my tomatoes that are in fabric grow bags. My biggest tomato plant (the mistreated one) looks like it’s trying to escape its cage. I just tucked the longest branches back inside the cage. Am I supposed to do something else too? I cut off the lower leaves on all of them Monday, trying to keep the lowest leaves from being too close to the soil, and then today, one of them had leaves again almost touching the soil. Maybe I just missed those Monday. Since Mister cut the grass yesterday, maybe Newbie and I will venture out in the back yard to get a good look at my tiger lilies. Nope, other than fertilize regularly because tomatoes are considered "heavy feeders". Yes, the moisture meter probably was a smart investment because there are so many variables like size of pot, type of pot, how much sun, type of plant, blah, blah. Since you mention fertilizer…. I started a post yesterday and deleted it instead of posting it, asking about fertilizer. I bought Dr. Earth Organic and Natural fertilizer for tomatoes and vegetables. It is 4-6-3. The bag says to apply it to established plants every 2 months during the growing season. The part of me that wants to take good care of my plants, which I acknowledge is also the part of me that tends to kill my plants, wants to at least give the one with the teeny tiny tomato some more fertilizer. I really, really wish I could talk to my Grandmother, I seriously doubt she did all this extra stuff with her gardens. She had more time than money, she planted stuff, she tended to it without all the stuff easily available for me to buy these days, and her gardens grew. I don’t want to be tiresome with all my questions here. I ask you all stuff that I can’t call my Grandmother and ask her.
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Post by cooper88 on May 11, 2022 18:40:19 GMT -5
I grow my tomatoes in containers and I lightly fertilize every Friday when I water. I use Fox Farm liquid fertilizer. I think what you have may be dry and I would follow label directions unless you start to see a nutrient deficiency.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 19:05:32 GMT -5
Nope, other than fertilize regularly because tomatoes are considered "heavy feeders". Yes, the moisture meter probably was a smart investment because there are so many variables like size of pot, type of pot, how much sun, type of plant, blah, blah. Since you mention fertilizer…. I started a post yesterday and deleted it instead of posting it, asking about fertilizer. I bought Dr. Earth Organic and Natural fertilizer for tomatoes and vegetables. It is 4-6-3. The bag says to apply it to established plants every 2 months during the growing season. The part of me that wants to take good care of my plants, which I acknowledge is also the part of me that tends to kill my plants, wants to at least give the one with the teeny tiny tomato some more fertilizer. I really, really wish I could talk to my Grandmother, I seriously doubt she did all this extra stuff with her gardens. She had more time than money, she planted stuff, she tended to it without all the stuff easily available for me to buy these days, and her gardens grew. I don’t want to be tiresome with all my questions here. I ask you all stuff that I can’t call my Grandmother and ask her. I would go with the package recommendation about every 2 months. More is not always better, and you want to support them producing more tomatoes, not just leaves. This is part of the fun of gardening, figuring how to outsmart Mother Nature (we never can!) while dodging climate change. Your grandmother lived in a time and place with a different climate, probably better soil and fewer pests. I think mine did too, although I never knew her. We're doing our best to carry on that legacy and produce a few little things to eat before our critters do.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 19:49:19 GMT -5
Since you mention fertilizer…. I started a post yesterday and deleted it instead of posting it, asking about fertilizer. I bought Dr. Earth Organic and Natural fertilizer for tomatoes and vegetables. It is 4-6-3. The bag says to apply it to established plants every 2 months during the growing season. The part of me that wants to take good care of my plants, which I acknowledge is also the part of me that tends to kill my plants, wants to at least give the one with the teeny tiny tomato some more fertilizer. I really, really wish I could talk to my Grandmother, I seriously doubt she did all this extra stuff with her gardens. She had more time than money, she planted stuff, she tended to it without all the stuff easily available for me to buy these days, and her gardens grew. I don’t want to be tiresome with all my questions here. I ask you all stuff that I can’t call my Grandmother and ask her. I would go with the package recommendation about every 2 months. More is not always better, and you want to support them producing more tomatoes, not just leaves. This is part of the fun of gardening, figuring how to outsmart Mother Nature (we never can!) while dodging climate change. Your grandmother lived in a time and place with a different climate, probably better soil and fewer pests. I think mine did too, although I never knew her. We're doing our best to carry on that legacy and produce a few little things to eat before our critters do. You are right about how we try to outsmart Mother Nature, but we can’t because she is a real force to be reckoned with! I don’t remember exactly when my Grandmother stopped growing vegetables, I just remember that the last time she grew a garden, she got very, very upset because somebody stole all her tomatoes, and she didn’t grow any vegetables after that. That had to be the late ‘90’s or early 2000’s. At the time, I understood how upset she was that someone had stolen from her, I can’t stand a thief myself. But I’m just now realizing that at least a little of why she was so upset was probably because of all the time and work she put into her vegetable gardens. She grew up in “the country”, in Mississippi, in a time when working in the fields was more important than going to school. So she didn’t go to school after 4th grade. But what she did know, that I didn’t appreciate while I was growing up, was how to feed a family with scraps or harvests from her vegetable gardens, and she knew what to do when her husband would go to the country and slaughter a hog and bring it home. Mister better NOT bring a slaughtered hog home and expect me to know what to do with it. He better not bring it home in the first place, because I know from memories at my Grandma’s house, that the first problem is it STINKS. I could tell as soon as I walked in my Grandmother’s house that her husband had slaughtered a hog. And if I ignored the smell and walked in the kitchen, I’ll never forget how I might see a hog’s head looking at me in a bucket. My Grandmother made souse from the snout, and guess who got to turn the handle on the grinder (or whatever it’s called) to make souse. Me. I’ve not eaten souse since I was a young child. Like before I saw how it’s made. I STILL have issues with ground meat and thick cuts of meat because of those memories. I don’t even like thick hamburgers. I don’t know how I ended up talking about all that, but I’m done now.
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Post by cooper88 on May 11, 2022 19:49:20 GMT -5
soupandstew Very true! Also, I think in the past a lot of heirloom varieties were grown and just behaved differently than the hybrids predominately grown today.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 11, 2022 20:01:41 GMT -5
I would go with the package recommendation about every 2 months. More is not always better, and you want to support them producing more tomatoes, not just leaves. This is part of the fun of gardening, figuring how to outsmart Mother Nature (we never can!) while dodging climate change. Your grandmother lived in a time and place with a different climate, probably better soil and fewer pests. I think mine did too, although I never knew her. We're doing our best to carry on that legacy and produce a few little things to eat before our critters do. You are right about how we try to outsmart Mother Nature, but we can’t because she is a real force to be reckoned with! I don’t remember exactly when my Grandmother stopped growing vegetables, I just remember that the last time she grew a garden, she got very, very upset because somebody stole all her tomatoes, and she didn’t grow any vegetables after that. In Massachusetts, my paternal grandparents had a vegetable garden in their back yard. During the summer when we would visit them, they encouraged us to find a ripe tomato and eat it right off the vine out of hand. The grandparent's property backed up to a wet, wooded area. In late spring, we kids would go into the woods looking for lady slipper orchids. Not hard to find. We kids were told to not pick them as they were a protected plant species. They sure were pretty.
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Post by CCL on May 11, 2022 20:01:52 GMT -5
Pink you're always welcome to ask questions. Don't be timid. That's one of the things about gardeners. They like to talk about their gardens, successes and failures, share their knowledge and sometimes their plants.
If my tomatoes ever start falling over or onto the ground on me I will usually tie the stems together loosely with plastic cable ties. When they get really tall, I add a stake and tie them loosely to that.
The only problem I've ever experienced with tomatoes is blossom end rot. I'll add a bit of lime to the soil which takes care of it.
When it gets hot, 85+ or so, I water my vegetables every day. After a while you'll get a feel for what works best in your climate.
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Post by finnime on May 12, 2022 4:38:42 GMT -5
You are right about how we try to outsmart Mother Nature, but we can’t because she is a real force to be reckoned with! I don’t remember exactly when my Grandmother stopped growing vegetables, I just remember that the last time she grew a garden, she got very, very upset because somebody stole all her tomatoes, and she didn’t grow any vegetables after that. In Massachusetts, my paternal grandparents had a vegetable garden in their back yard. During the summer when we would visit them, they encouraged us to find a ripe tomato and eat it right off the vine out of hand. The grandparent's property backed up to a wet, wooded area. In late spring, we kids would go into the woods looking for lady slipper orchids. Not hard to find. We kids were told to not pick them as they were a protected plant species. They sure were pretty. Oh, I remember lady's slippers! And jack-in-the-pulpits! In Massachusetts, in the woods when I was a girl.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 12, 2022 17:42:34 GMT -5
Stupid weather my plants had no chance to acclimate.
I think the fuchias will live if I water them constantly even a day they droop.
The Walmart pansies died on me. I think I can salvage two of them. We'll see if they live I'm going to move them. Plant something a little more sun tolerant in that pot instead.
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The one I got from Hyvee that was half dead is going crazy go figure.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 12, 2022 17:48:12 GMT -5
Stupid phone.
Anyhow the pansy that is thriving is in a different box but within inches of the others so no difference in sun so IDK.
One purple petunia is doing awesome. My black petunia not so much. Same planter same sun, same soil.
Everything in the yard is doing great including the rose bush. I tried again after finding one at Alidi. This one is much happier in the front yard and so far no bunnies have discovered it.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 12, 2022 17:48:44 GMT -5
Stupid weather my plants had no chance to acclimate. I think the fuchias will live if I water them constantly even a day they droop. The Walmart pansies died on me. I think I can salvage two of them. We'll see if they live I'm going to move them. Plant something a little more sun tolerant in that pot instead. 0 The one I got from Hyvee that was half dead is going crazy go figure. . NMD-Where in the country do you live? Here in the Memphis area, pansies are planted in the fall and pulled up in the spring. They cannot survive our summer heat. Today, it hit 97 degrees a hew record high temp for the month of May.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 12, 2022 18:07:22 GMT -5
Stupid weather my plants had no chance to acclimate. I think the fuchias will live if I water them constantly even a day they droop. The Walmart pansies died on me. I think I can salvage two of them. We'll see if they live I'm going to move them. Plant something a little more sun tolerant in that pot instead. 0 The one I got from Hyvee that was half dead is going crazy go figure. . NMD-Where in the country do you live? Here in the Memphis area, pansies are planted in the fall and pulled up in the spring. They cannot survive our summer heat. Today, it hit 97 degrees a hew record high temp for the month of May. Midwest. Southwest Iowa. They did really well last year but did not survive winter. I think it got too hot too fast this year.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 12, 2022 18:08:16 GMT -5
Here's a gardening challenge: a jabuticaba tree. The edible berries grow out from the bark. Commercially grown in Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Peru and Bolivia. The berries can be eaten fresh and used to make jams, jellies, juice and wine.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2022 18:39:16 GMT -5
Stupid phone. Anyhow the pansy that is thriving is in a different box but within inches of the others so no difference in sun so IDK. One purple petunia is doing awesome. My black petunia not so much. Same planter same sun, same soil. Everything in the yard is doing great including the rose bush. I tried again after finding one at Alidi. This one is much happier in the front yard and so far no bunnies have discovered it. Here in Houston, pansies are a winter plant, maybe December through February or March if we are lucky. The seasons are shifting so fast and hard I can't keep up any more. The tomatoes are going to die because we are already in the mid-90's for days on end and they won't set fruit over 90 degrees.
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Post by cooper88 on May 12, 2022 18:56:10 GMT -5
I'm trying a tomato that's supposed to do well in the heat, but of course I can't find the seed packet now to say what it is. Anyone ever tried something like that and had any luck? We're going to be over 100 for five or six days in a row starting tomorrow. My tomatoes are in shade, so that does help somewhat.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2022 19:39:02 GMT -5
My teeny tiny tomato is already a little bigger than when I first spotted it a couple days ago. I sent DD a closeup picture of the plant that day and asked if she and my Grandbabies could see the tomato. She didn’t see it until the kids showed her where it was. She was looking for a red tomato lol. It’s funny to me that the babies saw it, even though it’s green. And tiny. It was in the 90’s yesterday and today, but is supposed to “only” be in the 80’s tomorrow. I’ll be sad if it gets too hot again and stays hot, and messes up my tomatoes.
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Since you mention fertilizer…. I started a post yesterday and deleted it instead of posting it, asking about fertilizer. I bought Dr. Earth Organic and Natural fertilizer for tomatoes and vegetables. It is 4-6-3. The bag says to apply it to established plants every 2 months during the growing season. The part of me that wants to take good care of my plants, which I acknowledge is also the part of me that tends to kill my plants, wants to at least give the one with the teeny tiny tomato some more fertilizer. I really, really wish I could talk to my Grandmother, I seriously doubt she did all this extra stuff with her gardens. She had more time than money, she planted stuff, she tended to it without all the stuff easily available for me to buy these days, and her gardens grew. I don’t want to be tiresome with all my questions here. I ask you all stuff that I can’t call my Grandmother and ask her. I would go with the package recommendation about every 2 months. More is not always better, and you want to support them producing more tomatoes, not just leaves. This is part of the fun of gardening, figuring how to outsmart Mother Nature (we never can!) while dodging climate change. Your grandmother lived in a time and place with a different climate, probably better soil and fewer pests. I think mine did too, although I never knew her. We're doing our best to carry on that legacy and produce a few little things to eat before our critters do. More is not better is right. Once, I enthusiastically fertilized a begonia I was starting in a pot on my porch. The leaves came out very tall and thin and had circular leaves like parasols. Not at all what they were supposed to look like “. I had to put the pot in the yard and flush really well with water - and not fertilizer again all season. It started putting out normal leaves after a week or too. Weird Dr Suess plant there for a while.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 12, 2022 21:09:55 GMT -5
I moved the pansies to the box with the other one.
My fushias got moved into the yard along with my begonia so they can have some shade during the day and we'll see if they do better.
I put my parsley and Thai Basil in the newly empty planter both will be happy in the sun.
I wanted to plant some seeds in a box for the backyard but now I'm not sure with the weather.
DH thinks we should try because he had a point with the way things are going next year will possibly be worse. Might as well live for today.
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My teeny tiny tomato is already a little bigger than when I first spotted it a couple days ago. I sent DD a closeup picture of the plant that day and asked if she and my Grandbabies could see the tomato. She didn’t see it until the kids showed her where it was. She was looking for a red tomato lol. It’s funny to me that the babies saw it, even though it’s green. And tiny. It was in the 90’s yesterday and today, but is supposed to “only” be in the 80’s tomorrow. I’ll be sad if it gets too hot again and stays hot, and messes up my tomatoes. I'm not surprised. Little kids love gardens.
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Stupid weather my plants had no chance to acclimate. I think the fuchias will live if I water them constantly even a day they droop. The Walmart pansies died on me. I think I can salvage two of them. We'll see if they live I'm going to move them. Plant something a little more sun tolerant in that pot instead. 0 The one I got from Hyvee that was half dead is going crazy go figure. . NMD-Where in the country do you live? Here in the Memphis area, pansies are planted in the fall and pulled up in the spring. They cannot survive our summer heat. Today, it hit 97 degrees a hew record high temp for the month of May. Yeah this is why I don’t plant pansies. Couldn’t stand to tear out those little monkey faces every spring, but that means they die a horrible death in the heat. English peas suffer the same fate. I don’t plant them either.
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Here's a gardening challenge: a jabuticaba tree. The edible berries grow out from the bark. Commercially grown in Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Peru and Bolivia. The berries can be eaten fresh and used to make jams, jellies, juice and wine. Sorry that looks like a disease!!
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For the peony growers. Michigan profs push 'pee for peonies' urine diversion planANN ARBOR, Mich. (AP) — A pair of University of Michigan researchers are putting the “pee” in peony. Rather, they're putting pee ON peonies. Environmental engineering professors Nancy Love and Krista Wigginton are regular visitors to the Ann Arbor school's Nichols Arboretum, where they have been applying urine-based fertilizer to the heirloom peony beds ahead of the flowers' annual spring bloom. It's all part of an effort to educate the public about their research showing that applying fertilizer derived from nutrient-rich urine could have environmental and economic benefits. “At first, we thought people might be hesitant. You know, this might be weird. But we've really experienced very little of that attitude,” Wigginton said. “In general, people think it's funny at first, but then they understand why we're doing it and they support it.” Love is co-author of a study published in the Environmental Science & Technology journal that found urine diversion and recycling led to significant reductions in greenhouse gas emissions and energy. Urine contains essential nutrients such as nitrogen, potassium and phosphorus and has been used as a crop fertilizer for thousands of years. Love said collecting human urine and using it to create renewable fertilizers — as part of what she calls the “circular economy of nutrients” — will lead to greater environmental sustainability. Think of it not so much as recycling, but “pee-cycling,” Wigginton said. Rest of article here: Michigan profs push 'pee for peonies' urine diversion plan
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on May 13, 2022 9:32:28 GMT -5
I saw that article Tennesseer and plan to P for my Peonies.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 13, 2022 9:51:52 GMT -5
I saw that article Tennesseer and plan to P for my Peonies. 'Waste not, want not', Ken.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2022 17:19:35 GMT -5
Mother Nature watered my plants for me today. The rain cooled things down after the high temps we had yesterday and the day before.
Hopefully the cooler temps (cooler as in not over 90* like it has been) means I’ll see some more flowers become tomatoes soon. The mistreated plant has lots of flowers. The others just have a few.
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Here's a gardening challenge: a jabuticaba tree. The edible berries grow out from the bark. Commercially grown in Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Peru and Bolivia. The berries can be eaten fresh and used to make jams, jellies, juice and wine. Sorry that looks like a disease!! I thought it looked creepy, kinda scared me lol.
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