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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 20:11:08 GMT -5
I'm getting beat up by some of my closest friends because denial is their coping strategy and I get that. But it doesn't help when I call, just to reach out, and hear that I should be going to restaurants in surrounding counties before they close down. Oh, duh, they are so far behind my county is closing down that I KNOW where the next cluster will be. I respect their choices and just wish they could respect ours. DH is 80 and I fear bringing it home to him. You are divorced for 30 years and don't have that issue. What part can't you get?
Update: those two adjacent counties also closed down the restaurants and bars later this afternoon. I"m really, truly sorry that my friend's son's restaurant is basically screwed but I'm unable to join a group of fools violating a very sensible order by our county judge AND put myself and my loved one at risk to help them dispose of fresh crawfish.
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Post by raeoflyte on Mar 17, 2020 20:24:31 GMT -5
Kids in my neighborhood are playing soccer together in the streets. I counted 15 of them at one point. Normally I would be all for it but right now nope. My kids wanna know why they can't join and why we seem to be the only family isolating. So frustrating. I think our neighborhood is on board, but I admit that was a big reality moment for me. I haven't seen the kid huddle out since Saturday. We explained to our kids why it isn't an option right now but thankfully the temptation hasn't been out to create fights over. I'm still shocked at the people just now wondering if this is a big deal. I mean schools close for no reason nationwide all the time, right?
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Post by raeoflyte on Mar 17, 2020 20:32:11 GMT -5
I'm picking up a grocery order for my folks and leaving it on their porch tomorrow. Dh and I have a grocery list that he might go out for tomorrow but we could hold off for the weekend. We have maybe 3 apples left and no other fresh fruit. Still some veggies but just a couple days worth.
Biggest question for me lately is do I take my bike in for a tune up. It's a local shop and I'd think we could go in when they're not busy. We're going on a bike ride every day and but dh and I are sharing his bike. It would be nice to be able to ride together.
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Post by mollyanna58 on Mar 17, 2020 20:33:58 GMT -5
I've seen several FB posts downplaying the whole situation and blaming the media for hysterical reporting. Someone who is calling himself a SEAL says that there will be a huge uptick in cases reported solely because they now have the ability to test people, and not to worry, it's not really an explosion of new cases; the media will just be trying to make Trump look bad. An acquaintance wrote a big, long, hard to follow rant about how it's just the Democrats trying to turn people against Trump; other acquaintances liked and shared the post.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 9:53:33 GMT -5
I've seen several FB posts downplaying the whole situation and blaming the media for hysterical reporting. Someone who is calling himself a SEAL says that there will be a huge uptick in cases reported solely because they now have the ability to test people, and not to worry, it's not really an explosion of new cases; the media will just be trying to make Trump look bad. An acquaintance wrote a big, long, hard to follow rant about how it's just the Democrats trying to turn people against Trump; other acquaintances liked and shared the post. Yeah, I read a friend's FB post about the US creating the virus and Germany trying to control the world's finances through creation of a vaccine.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Mar 18, 2020 11:51:58 GMT -5
I am unfriending all of those people. They are not my FB friends any longer whether we have been friends in real life, online only or by blood.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Mar 18, 2020 14:50:17 GMT -5
I read a FB post last week that really strengthened my resolve to hunker down. (I think it was Chen who shared it, but I haven't seen her around here lately.) It basically said, for each reported case there is estimated to be 50 unreported cases, and unencumbered, the number of cases would be expected to double every 3 days. It doesn't sound like a lot until you take it out a month and it's terrifying--pretty much the entire population of my state. Yesterday, the total cases in Michigan were 65, almost double of the 33 3 days prior. Today we're at 80, but 3 days ago was 45, I believe. (I've been trying to note the correct # on my calendar.) So, it appears that the extreme efforts by my governor may be starting to work. (She clamped down on stuff quite quickly after the very first cases in the state.) I hope it's working.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 15:06:58 GMT -5
I've seen several FB posts downplaying the whole situation and blaming the media for hysterical reporting. Someone who is calling himself a SEAL says that there will be a huge uptick in cases reported solely because they now have the ability to test people, and not to worry, it's not really an explosion of new cases; the media will just be trying to make Trump look bad. An acquaintance wrote a big, long, hard to follow rant about how it's just the Democrats trying to turn people against Trump; other acquaintances liked and shared the post. On those posts on FB, I simply post the link of Italian doctors talking about how they are letting people die in Italy because they don't have enough ventilators.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 15:09:17 GMT -5
I read a FB post last week that really strengthened my resolve to hunker down. (I think it was Chen who shared it, but I haven't seen her around here lately.) It basically said, for each reported case there is estimated to be 50 unreported cases, and unencumbered, the number of cases would be expected to double every 3 days. It doesn't sound like a lot until you take it out a month and it's terrifying--pretty much the entire population of my state. Yesterday, the total cases in Michigan were 65, almost double of the 33 3 days prior. Today we're at 80, but 3 days ago was 45, I believe. (I've been trying to note the correct # on my calendar.) So, it appears that the extreme efforts by my governor may be starting to work. (She clamped down on stuff quite quickly after the very first cases in the state.) I hope it's working. There are some real world predictions that are insanely scary. And, yet, at the dentists office today medical professionals were calling this hype. /smh
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Post by giramomma on Mar 18, 2020 15:55:06 GMT -5
I read a FB post last week that really strengthened my resolve to hunker down. (I think it was Chen who shared it, but I haven't seen her around here lately.) It basically said, for each reported case there is estimated to be 50 unreported cases, and unencumbered, the number of cases would be expected to double every 3 days. It doesn't sound like a lot until you take it out a month and it's terrifying--pretty much the entire population of my state. Yesterday, the total cases in Michigan were 65, almost double of the 33 3 days prior. Today we're at 80, but 3 days ago was 45, I believe. (I've been trying to note the correct # on my calendar.) So, it appears that the extreme efforts by my governor may be starting to work. (She clamped down on stuff quite quickly after the very first cases in the state.) I hope it's working. 10 days ago, there were close to 600 cases nationally. Now there's 8200.
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Post by oped on Mar 18, 2020 16:00:41 GMT -5
I've seen several FB posts downplaying the whole situation and blaming the media for hysterical reporting. Someone who is calling himself a SEAL says that there will be a huge uptick in cases reported solely because they now have the ability to test people, and not to worry, it's not really an explosion of new cases; the media will just be trying to make Trump look bad. An acquaintance wrote a big, long, hard to follow rant about how it's just the Democrats trying to turn people against Trump; other acquaintances liked and shared the post. On those posts on FB, I simply post the link of Italian doctors talking about how they are letting people die in Italy because they don't have enough ventilators. Of the 7000 resolved cases in Italy 43% of them have DIED. That was my biggest influence today. We aren't nearly as densely populated as Italy... nor as old. But this is astounding.
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Mar 18, 2020 16:18:23 GMT -5
I read a FB post last week that really strengthened my resolve to hunker down. (I think it was Chen who shared it, but I haven't seen her around here lately.) It basically said, for each reported case there is estimated to be 50 unreported cases, and unencumbered, the number of cases would be expected to double every 3 days. It doesn't sound like a lot until you take it out a month and it's terrifying--pretty much the entire population of my state. Yesterday, the total cases in Michigan were 65, almost double of the 33 3 days prior. Today we're at 80, but 3 days ago was 45, I believe. (I've been trying to note the correct # on my calendar.) So, it appears that the extreme efforts by my governor may be starting to work. (She clamped down on stuff quite quickly after the very first cases in the state.) I hope it's working. There are some real world predictions that are insanely scary. And, yet, at the dentists office today medical professionals were calling this hype. /smh One of my friend's who lives in a small town, said that the dentist office had a patient that turned out to be positive and is shut down. This disease needs to be respected even if we go over board.
Historians will have different takes on this.
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Post by haapai on Mar 18, 2020 17:00:05 GMT -5
I just talked to my DS who is 27 and works for Walmart. He asked if this is actually more serious than something like SARS or if it's all just hype? My head about exploded. Somehow, we need to stop making fun of the TP hoarders and educate people en masse about the realities of the situation. Try not to be too hard on your kid. I also work for a grocery store. It's crazy busy and we've all been offered unlimited overtime. My gut tells me that we probably should not be open, but my inner bean-counter tells me to work as much OT as possible and sock it away. This frenzy is going to be followed by a hellacious recession.
It's almost impossible to talk coronavirus at work. Everyone is completely focused on profits and pretending that spraying down surfaces and washing our hands until they are raw will do the trick. If there is a mechanism available for absenting oneself from work in order to protect vulnerable household members, it ain't being publicized. Meanwhile, at least once an hour, a customer thanks me for doing what we are doing. It freaks me out when they say that. They are so sincere and grateful that I wonder if they know something that I haven't figured out yet.
I think that I am working in a bit of a bubble.
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Post by giramomma on Mar 18, 2020 17:42:05 GMT -5
On those posts on FB, I simply post the link of Italian doctors talking about how they are letting people die in Italy because they don't have enough ventilators. Of the 7000 resolved cases in Italy 43% of them have DIED. That was my biggest influence today. We aren't nearly as densely populated as Italy... nor as old. But this is astounding. But, if you read reports carefully out of Italy, it's not just hitting 80 year old grandpas that were chain smokers all their lives. I don't know my European news sources all that well, but the British Guardian seems to be fairly reputable per google, and they reported younger people like, 39 years old, younger, have died from this. Time is reporting 15% of the deaths in Iran are happening to folks under 40... I also find it curious that no one is following what's happening in Iran. It's not good, there, either. CNN reported that at 5 year old has the virus in New Jersey. To me, it's astounding that this illness has been going around for months and there's simply no accurate picture of anything regarding the virus. One work model of who is at risk is suggested, then it moves to the next country, and then it's "Oh wait, actually, these people are at risk, too. I understand part of it has to do with secrecy/relations and all that...China and Iran aren't exactly our friends.. But when you read a time article about Iran time.com/5804706/iran-coronavirus/And it sounds an awful lot about how the US took the same approach, well, it's still worrisome.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Mar 18, 2020 19:08:05 GMT -5
I don’t have anything to back it up, but a fairly reasonable, intelligent, co-worker said the virus is mutating quickly so getting a handle on who is vulnerable is changing constantly.
There is also research suggesting folks with Type A blood are more susceptible to the virus.
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 18, 2020 19:15:34 GMT -5
I don’t have anything to back it up, but a fairly reasonable, intelligent, co-worker said the virus is mutating quickly so getting a handle on who is vulnerable is changing constantly. There is also research suggesting folks with Type A blood are more susceptible to the virus. Oh no. I have A. Easiest A+ I ever got.
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Post by swamp on Mar 18, 2020 19:52:45 GMT -5
I've seen several FB posts downplaying the whole situation and blaming the media for hysterical reporting. Someone who is calling himself a SEAL says that there will be a huge uptick in cases reported solely because they now have the ability to test people, and not to worry, it's not really an explosion of new cases; the media will just be trying to make Trump look bad. An acquaintance wrote a big, long, hard to follow rant about how it's just the Democrats trying to turn people against Trump; other acquaintances liked and shared the post. On those posts on FB, I simply post the link of Italian doctors talking about how they are letting people die in Italy because they don't have enough ventilators. And then you get the comments about this happening because Italy has socialized medicine. It would never happen in ‘Merica
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 20:09:47 GMT -5
I don’t have anything to back it up, but a fairly reasonable, intelligent, co-worker said the virus is mutating quickly so getting a handle on who is vulnerable is changing constantly. There is also research suggesting folks with Type A blood are more susceptible to the virus. Say it isn't so! I'm not just type A, I'm A+. Eek. Probably the only A+ in my whole life
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Post by dannylion on Mar 18, 2020 20:50:58 GMT -5
I don’t have anything to back it up, but a fairly reasonable, intelligent, co-worker said the virus is mutating quickly so getting a handle on who is vulnerable is changing constantly. There is also research suggesting folks with Type A blood are more susceptible to the virus. Say it isn't so! I'm not just type A, I'm A+. Eek. Probably the only A+ in my whole life On the one hand, this information is further evidence that the people with the skills and training to conquer this thing continue to pursue answers. On the other hand, as an over-70-year-old person myself with health issues and A+ blood, it is not as immediately reassuring as some other piece of information gleaned from research might have been. If there is any comfort to be had from this, it is probably that now that an additional susceptibility of people with A+ blood seems to have been identified, we know to be more vigilant, and if we are unfortunate enough to contract the virus, the medical practitioners who care for us will know we need more aggressive intervention. Perspective. We need to look at the whole picture and not just the individual data points as they emerge.
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Post by jerseygirl on Mar 18, 2020 21:05:55 GMT -5
Larger prevalence of A might be because A is most common blood type in China
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 21:55:15 GMT -5
On those posts on FB, I simply post the link of Italian doctors talking about how they are letting people die in Italy because they don't have enough ventilators. And then you get the comments about this happening because Italy has socialized medicine. It would never happen in ‘Merica You know me. I've posted here for the last couple decades about the fact that we have this "I've got mine, so screw you and get a better job or move somewhere else" thing going on in this country. Right now, that attitude is potentially a large part of the problems to come. It's not that many of us don't agree freedom is important and that people should get off their ass and work to feed themselves, but the reality is we have a lot of abusive employers right now, large income inequality, and many people just can't work for mental/physical reasons. And, those who are disabled get such an amazingly low amount of money they can't possibly have any sort of decent emergency fund. Millions of people without healthcare access and a shitty/already overloaded healthcare system right now is a serious problem for everyone, not just poor folks. I hope this changes in the longer term. If we manage to learn from this latest crisis... What about all those ICU bills for the unemployed? More bankruptcies for people, hospitals, and/or some sort of bailout. All options suck, more or less. Honestly, more than the virus and being cooped up eating government cheese for the next 18 months, I fear what will happen when people find out their relative can't have a ventilator because the hospital is out. Or, people run out of food. I moved to an area with very little theft. All the charities leave trailers in their parking lots and people toss their recyclable cans and bottles in there as donations. Last night, someone stole all of the recycling up and down the street. People will do what they have to in order to feed their kids. So, hopefully the government gets off its ass and takes some action on that for everyone's sake. We need to plug our noses and be horrible socialists for a few months.
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Post by NastyWoman on Mar 18, 2020 22:15:21 GMT -5
I don’t have anything to back it up, but a fairly reasonable, intelligent, co-worker said the virus is mutating quickly so getting a handle on who is vulnerable is changing constantly. There is also research suggesting folks with Type A blood are more susceptible to the virus. Ok, now you are just picking on me. I am old, have high blood pressure, AND my blood type is A! You can stop now...
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