50 cases of coronavirus traced back to 1 person

[swamp]

www.cnn.com/2020/03/11/us/new-rochelle-attorney-containment-area/index.html

do these people lick each other as a greeting?  

[obelisk]

Mar 11, 2020 9:38:44 GMT -5 swamp said:

www.cnn.com/2020/03/11/us/new-rochelle-attorney-containment-area/index.html

do these people lick each other as a greeting?  

Maybe he's the kind of attorney that trades his services for special favors

[engineerdoe]

Mar 11, 2020 9:38:44 GMT -5 swamp said:

www.cnn.com/2020/03/11/us/new-rochelle-attorney-containment-area/index.html

do these people lick each other as a greeting?  

Exactly my thought.  Maybe he likes to greet people by kissing them on both cheeks, so yeah, basically licking everyone he met and then they wipe off his slobber but don't wash their hands before they eat something. (I think I read he had attended a Bar Mitzvah.)

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Reports are out that this virus is 2-4x more infectious than the flu.  This is what is so bothersome.

[hoops902]

I dunno, not that hard to imagine when you read the article. It all traces back to him, not that he infected them all personally.  His wife and 2 kids were infected, his kid was in college.  The person who took him to the hospital.  

His friend tested positive, then his friend's wife and kids.  

That's one of the big problems with easily transferable diseases...it has an exponential infection rate.  Frankly it's kind of hard to imagine NOT infecting people close to you like family.  So if you're talking about families of...let's say 4...every person you infect just immediately means 4 infected without even accounting for all the people they're going to come into contact with.

[haapai]

Cute joke, but the number of linked cases makes sense if you know how epidemiologists operate.  If they can't link your contagion to travel or a family member, they start asking questions about where you work, where you worship and where you recreate.  The way that they link cases can be almost keyword-driven. 

For example:

PUBLIC HEALTH WORKER:  Are you a member of Congregation YZ?

PATIENT:  No, but my son is.  

That's a link that will be pursued quickly. 

[Gardening Grandma]

Mar 11, 2020 10:15:20 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Reports are out that this virus is 2-4x more infectious than the flu.  This is what is so bothersome.

That and the fact that there is a vaccine for the flu.  

[gs11rmb]

Mar 11, 2020 10:31:51 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Mar 11, 2020 10:15:20 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Reports are out that this virus is 2-4x more infectious than the flu.  This is what is so bothersome.

That and the fact that there is a vaccine for the flu.  

I just realized that I haven't heard anything from the anti-vax community about corona virus and protecting yourself with good nutrition and essential oils!

[Gardening Grandma]

Mar 11, 2020 10:45:17 GMT -5 gs11rmb said:

Mar 11, 2020 10:31:51 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

That and the fact that there is a vaccine for the flu.  

I just realized that I haven't heard anything from the anti-vax community about corona virus and protecting yourself with good nutrition and essential oils!

Oh, I have

[gs11rmb]

Mar 11, 2020 11:00:55 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Mar 11, 2020 10:45:17 GMT -5 gs11rmb said:

I just realized that I haven't heard anything from the anti-vax community about corona virus and protecting yourself with good nutrition and essential oils!

Oh, I have

But aren't you in Oregon?  Hippy central 

[chiver78]

Mar 11, 2020 10:15:27 GMT -5 hoops902 said:

I dunno, not that hard to imagine when you read the article. It all traces back to him, not that he infected them all personally.  His wife and 2 kids were infected, his kid was in college.  The person who took him to the hospital.  

His friend tested positive, then his friend's wife and kids.  

That's one of the big problems with easily transferable diseases...it has an exponential infection rate.  Frankly it's kind of hard to imagine NOT infecting people close to you like family.  So if you're talking about families of...let's say 4...every person you infect just immediately means 4 infected without even accounting for all the people they're going to come into contact with.

and that's why any effort to minimize exposure is a good thing - it helps to minimize the effect of that exponential infection rate. 

[swamp]

Mar 11, 2020 10:45:17 GMT -5 gs11rmb said:

Mar 11, 2020 10:31:51 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

That and the fact that there is a vaccine for the flu.  

I just realized that I haven't heard anything from the anti-vax community about corona virus and protecting yourself with good nutrition and essential oils!

I have.     It's a hoax.  

[Gardening Grandma]

Mar 11, 2020 11:06:51 GMT -5 gs11rmb said:

Mar 11, 2020 11:00:55 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Oh, I have

But aren't you in Oregon?  Hippy central 

I’m in WA

[dannylion]

Mar 11, 2020 10:45:17 GMT -5 gs11rmb said:

Mar 11, 2020 10:31:51 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

That and the fact that there is a vaccine for the flu.  

I just realized that I haven't heard anything from the anti-vax community about corona virus and protecting yourself with good nutrition and essential oils!

Oh, they're out there peddling their fake cures and phony protective woo.  The conspiracy theory wingnuts are out in force, too.  I follow a couple of science pages on FB that keep track of the AV and woo-monger pages (so we don't have to) and occasionally share screenshots.  It would be hilarious if it weren't absolutely terrifying that people that stupid and delusional walk among us in all their unvaccinated glory.  

[gs11rmb]

To be clear I don't have (to the best of my knowledge) anti-vaxxers as Facebook friends.  I do have friends who get absolutely incensed by the anti-vaxx movement and post links and articles about the stupidity of those arguments.  I haven't seen anyone highlighting those groups... yet.

[dannylion]

Mar 11, 2020 11:09:54 GMT -5 swamp said:

Mar 11, 2020 10:45:17 GMT -5 gs11rmb said:

I just realized that I haven't heard anything from the anti-vax community about corona virus and protecting yourself with good nutrition and essential oils!

I have.     It's a hoax.  

It's also a conspiracy.  They can't seem to make up their minds.  Sometimes it's a hoax, sometimes it's a conspiracy, and out at the really mad end where the flat-earthers live it's both.  


Some of the more rabid AV-ers appear disappointed that there is no vaccine they can refuse to take.  

[hoops902]

The Anti-vaxxers were right, we didn't see any of this coronavirus panedemic before vaccinations became so common.  Something to think about!

[swamp]

Mar 11, 2020 11:18:48 GMT -5 dannylion said:

Mar 11, 2020 11:09:54 GMT -5 swamp said:

I have.     It's a hoax.  

It's also a conspiracy.  They can't seem to make up their minds.  Sometimes it's a hoax, sometimes it's a conspiracy, and out at the really mad end where the flat-earthers live it's both.  


Some of the more rabid AV-ers appear disappointed that there is no vaccine they can refuse to take.  

maybe a conspiracy for a hoax?

I don't know, all I know is people are stupid.    

But Bill and Melinda gates are making a fortune on this.  They created the virus, launched it, and they have a vaccine for it that will be released after millions of people have died.   

[swamp]

Mar 11, 2020 11:12:56 GMT -5 gs11rmb said:

To be clear I don't have (to the best of my knowledge) anti-vaxxers as Facebook friends.  I do have friends who get absolutely incensed by the anti-vaxx movement and post links and articles about the stupidity of those arguments.  I haven't seen anyone highlighting those groups... yet.

I have 3.     They are fucking insane. 

[gs11rmb]

Mar 11, 2020 11:34:49 GMT -5 swamp said:

Mar 11, 2020 11:18:48 GMT -5 dannylion said:

It's also a conspiracy.  They can't seem to make up their minds.  Sometimes it's a hoax, sometimes it's a conspiracy, and out at the really mad end where the flat-earthers live it's both.  


Some of the more rabid AV-ers appear disappointed that there is no vaccine they can refuse to take.  

maybe a conspiracy for a hoax?

I don't know, all I know is people are stupid.    

But Bill and Melinda gates are making a fortune on this.  They created the virus, launched it, and they have a vaccine for it that will be released after millions of people have died.   

Yeah... your 'friends' are crazier than mine  .

[chiver78]

Mar 11, 2020 11:12:56 GMT -5 gs11rmb said:

To be clear I don't have (to the best of my knowledge) anti-vaxxers as Facebook friends.  I do have friends who get absolutely incensed by the anti-vaxx movement and post links and articles about the stupidity of those arguments.  I haven't seen anyone highlighting those groups... yet.

I have a handful, who are perfectly lovely music friends otherwise. I haven't seen any of them propagating any bullshit for this, yet. but I don't think any of them are in a hot spot, either. 

[Deleted]

Mar 11, 2020 11:06:51 GMT -5 gs11rmb said:

Mar 11, 2020 11:00:55 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Oh, I have

But aren't you in Oregon?  Hippy central 

That would be Portland. The Eastern part is all about guns and bibles. In fact, my neighbor flies the flag of the confederacy proudly up his pole for all to see...

[dannylion]

Mar 11, 2020 11:34:49 GMT -5 swamp said:

Mar 11, 2020 11:18:48 GMT -5 dannylion said:

It's also a conspiracy.  They can't seem to make up their minds.  Sometimes it's a hoax, sometimes it's a conspiracy, and out at the really mad end where the flat-earthers live it's both.  


Some of the more rabid AV-ers appear disappointed that there is no vaccine they can refuse to take.  

maybe a conspiracy for a hoax?

I don't know, all I know is people are stupid.    

But Bill and Melinda gates are making a fortune on this.  They created the virus, launched it, and they have a vaccine for it that will be released after millions of people have died.   

Yeah, the Bill and Melinda hoax is definitely popular among the nutjobs.  My favorite so far for sheer incomprehensibility is the one where the coronavirus was created to activate a toxin that has been introduced into the population via chemtrails and genetically engineered pork (apparently half the toxin is pork DNA in the chemtrails and the other half is acquired by ingesting the genetically engineered pork).  The "theory" is that the coronavirus activates the toxin, then the vaccine (which doesn't yet exist) will deal the final blow.  So, it's apparently genocide for no clear reason and with a lot of elaborate steps.  Never fear, though, you can protect yourself by spraying vinegar into the air whenever you detect chemtrails.  (These people are out there.  They're voting, driving cars, and breeding.  I find that terrifying.)

[Tiny]

Mar 11, 2020 9:38:44 GMT -5 swamp said:

www.cnn.com/2020/03/11/us/new-rochelle-attorney-containment-area/index.html

do these people lick each other as a greeting?  

Nope.  It's like measles....  you just need to breathe other people's air for example.     

I'm hearing covid19 is catchy up to 6 feet away from an infected person.    They are exhaling the virus not just with a cough or a sneeze.      

And since none of us have any sort of immunity to it... we catch it. 

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Mar 11, 2020 11:50:19 GMT -5 dannylion said:

Mar 11, 2020 11:34:49 GMT -5 swamp said:

maybe a conspiracy for a hoax?

I don't know, all I know is people are stupid.    

But Bill and Melinda gates are making a fortune on this.  They created the virus, launched it, and they have a vaccine for it that will be released after millions of people have died.   

Yeah, the Bill and Melinda hoax is definitely popular among the nutjobs.  My favorite so far for sheer incomprehensibility is the one where the coronavirus was created to activate a toxin that has been introduced into the population via chemtrails and genetically engineered pork (apparently half the toxin is pork DNA in the chemtrails and the other half is acquired by ingesting the genetically engineered pork).  The "theory" is that the coronavirus activates the toxin, then the vaccine (which doesn't yet exist) will deal the final blow.  So, it's apparently genocide for no clear reason and with a lot of elaborate steps.  Never fear, though, you can protect yourself by spraying vinegar into the air whenever you detect chemtrails.  (These people are out there.  They're voting, driving cars, and breeding.  I find that terrifying.)

This would be a stretch for Robin Cook.

[Tiny]

Mar 11, 2020 11:50:19 GMT -5 dannylion said:

Mar 11, 2020 11:34:49 GMT -5 swamp said:

maybe a conspiracy for a hoax?

I don't know, all I know is people are stupid.    

But Bill and Melinda gates are making a fortune on this.  They created the virus, launched it, and they have a vaccine for it that will be released after millions of people have died.   

Yeah, the Bill and Melinda hoax is definitely popular among the nutjobs.  My favorite so far for sheer incomprehensibility is the one where the coronavirus was created to activate a toxin that has been introduced into the population via chemtrails and genetically engineered pork (apparently half the toxin is pork DNA in the chemtrails and the other half is acquired by ingesting the genetically engineered pork).  The "theory" is that the coronavirus activates the toxin, then the vaccine (which doesn't yet exist) will deal the final blow.  So, it's apparently genocide for no clear reason and with a lot of elaborate steps.  Never fear, though, you can protect yourself by spraying vinegar into the air whenever you detect chemtrails.  (These people are out there.  They're voting, driving cars, and breeding.  I find that terrifying.)

It's kind of telling that it's based around Pork.... and having to eat pork to be effected by it.    

[dannylion]

Mar 11, 2020 11:57:41 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Mar 11, 2020 11:50:19 GMT -5 dannylion said:

Yeah, the Bill and Melinda hoax is definitely popular among the nutjobs.  My favorite so far for sheer incomprehensibility is the one where the coronavirus was created to activate a toxin that has been introduced into the population via chemtrails and genetically engineered pork (apparently half the toxin is pork DNA in the chemtrails and the other half is acquired by ingesting the genetically engineered pork).  The "theory" is that the coronavirus activates the toxin, then the vaccine (which doesn't yet exist) will deal the final blow.  So, it's apparently genocide for no clear reason and with a lot of elaborate steps.  Never fear, though, you can protect yourself by spraying vinegar into the air whenever you detect chemtrails.  (These people are out there.  They're voting, driving cars, and breeding.  I find that terrifying.)

This would be a stretch for Robin Cook.

It's probably a lot easier to come up with this stuff when one is not constrained by facts or science or, you know, physics and that sort of thing.  

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Mar 11, 2020 10:45:17 GMT -5 gs11rmb said:

Mar 11, 2020 10:31:51 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

That and the fact that there is a vaccine for the flu.  

I just realized that I haven't heard anything from the anti-vax community about corona virus and protecting yourself with good nutrition and essential oils!

I have.   There is no need to avoid church, the power of faith and prayer is all you need to protect yourself from infection.

[weltschmerz]

Mar 11, 2020 11:50:19 GMT -5 dannylion said:

Mar 11, 2020 11:34:49 GMT -5 swamp said:

maybe a conspiracy for a hoax?

I don't know, all I know is people are stupid.    

But Bill and Melinda gates are making a fortune on this.  They created the virus, launched it, and they have a vaccine for it that will be released after millions of people have died.   

Yeah, the Bill and Melinda hoax is definitely popular among the nutjobs.  My favorite so far for sheer incomprehensibility is the one where the coronavirus was created to activate a toxin that has been introduced into the population via chemtrails and genetically engineered pork (apparently half the toxin is pork DNA in the chemtrails and the other half is acquired by ingesting the genetically engineered pork).  The "theory" is that the coronavirus activates the toxin, then the vaccine (which doesn't yet exist) will deal the final blow.  So, it's apparently genocide for no clear reason and with a lot of elaborate steps.  Never fear, though, you can protect yourself by spraying vinegar into the air whenever you detect chemtrails.  (These people are out there.  They're voting, driving cars, and breeding.  I find that terrifying.)

So, Jews and Muslims will not be affected?

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Mar 11, 2020 12:09:50 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Mar 11, 2020 11:50:19 GMT -5 dannylion said:

Yeah, the Bill and Melinda hoax is definitely popular among the nutjobs.  My favorite so far for sheer incomprehensibility is the one where the coronavirus was created to activate a toxin that has been introduced into the population via chemtrails and genetically engineered pork (apparently half the toxin is pork DNA in the chemtrails and the other half is acquired by ingesting the genetically engineered pork).  The "theory" is that the coronavirus activates the toxin, then the vaccine (which doesn't yet exist) will deal the final blow.  So, it's apparently genocide for no clear reason and with a lot of elaborate steps.  Never fear, though, you can protect yourself by spraying vinegar into the air whenever you detect chemtrails.  (These people are out there.  They're voting, driving cars, and breeding.  I find that terrifying.)

So, Jews and Muslims will not be affected?

Well duh they are likely the ones that caused it.  They are the ones flying the planes which contain illegal immigrants who parachute down into various states in case the vinegar neutralizes too many of the chem trails for infection to succeed.