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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 4, 2019 15:50:19 GMT -5
Republicans didn't care when Trump didn't testify for Mueller. They're still insisting the Ukraine whistleblower appears.Congressional Republicans yet again seem to be holding President Trump to a different standard than pretty much anyone else. They're currently insisting the Ukraine whistleblower testify in person for Congress, but had no problem when Trump refused to do the same for former Special Counsel Robert Mueller. The whistleblower's attorney has said the whistleblower will provide written answers to the House committees' questions, but some Republicans aren't okay with that. Oversight Committee Ranking Member Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) said "part of determining someone's motivation, credibility, potential bias is being able to see them, look them in the eye, see how they react to me asking them questions." House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) meanwhile said an in-person testimony would allow for "cross-examination." Flash back a few years, and it's clear that Mueller's team never had the chance to look Trump in the eye either. Trump was never pushed to testify in person for the special counsel's team, and neither was Donald Trump Jr. nor former White House Counsel Don McGahn. Trump provided limited written answers for Mueller's report. Complete article here: Republicans didn't care when Trump didn't testify for Mueller. They're still insisting the Ukraine whistleblower appears.Meanwhile.... Trump demands whistleblower testify in person — the thing he refused to do in Mueller probe
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Nov 4, 2019 16:08:36 GMT -5
The whistleblower's response ought to be that he/she will testify in person when the Mueller probe is re-opened and DT testifies in person. The WB ought to make it conditional that he/she will testify AFTER DT does his in-person testimony.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 4, 2019 16:43:26 GMT -5
IT IS ILLEGAL TO REVEAL THE WHISTLEBLOWER'S IDENTITY.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Nov 4, 2019 16:50:18 GMT -5
They want the whistle blower to appear so they can blast his face all over social media as a traitor and get him to retract his statement after the death threats start rolling in.
Also hard to discredit someone by finding a post they made back when they were 16 on Facebook that points to what a dirty lying pinko commie deep state plant they are if you don't have a name.
This is why whistle blower laws exist.
I'm getting real sick of our representatives not knowing/deliberately ignoring the law in favor of "deep state" conspiracy theories that keep their noses buried in Trump's ass. Part of me hopes (though I doubt it) they lie awake at night terrified for their immortal souls.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 4, 2019 18:10:52 GMT -5
They want the whistle blower to appear so they can blast his face all over social media as a traitor and get him to retract his statement after the death threats start rolling in. Also hard to discredit someone by finding a post they made back when they were 16 on Facebook that points to what a dirty lying pinko commie deep state plant they are if you don't have a name. This is why whistle blower laws exist. I'm getting real sick of our representatives not knowing/deliberately ignoring the law in favor of "deep state" conspiracy theories that keep their noses buried in Trump's ass. Part of me hopes (though I doubt it) they lie awake at night terrified for their immortal souls. They first must have a soul to worry about it.
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Post by Opti on Nov 4, 2019 18:13:01 GMT -5
They want the whistle blower to appear so they can blast his face all over social media as a traitor and get him to retract his statement after the death threats start rolling in. Also hard to discredit someone by finding a post they made back when they were 16 on Facebook that points to what a dirty lying pinko commie deep state plant they are if you don't have a name. This is why whistle blower laws exist. I'm getting real sick of our representatives not knowing/deliberately ignoring the law in favor of "deep state" conspiracy theories that keep their noses buried in Trump's ass. Part of me hopes (though I doubt it) they lie awake at night terrified for their immortal souls. I think for some, they want to treat the WB like shit to prevent Trump from doing similar to them. Satan's got what passes for their souls now.
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 4, 2019 21:58:30 GMT -5
They want the whistle blower to appear so they can blast his face all over social media as a traitor and get him to retract his statement after the death threats start rolling in. Also hard to discredit someone by finding a post they made back when they were 16 on Facebook that points to what a dirty lying pinko commie deep state plant they are if you don't have a name. This is why whistle blower laws exist. I'm getting real sick of our representatives not knowing/deliberately ignoring the law in favor of "deep state" conspiracy theories that keep their noses buried in Trump's ass. Part of me hopes (though I doubt it) they lie awake at night terrified for their immortal souls. Not allowed to face your accuser?? Kangaroo courts and Shiff's Congress apparently.
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 4, 2019 22:04:53 GMT -5
They want the whistle blower to appear so they can blast his face all over social media as a traitor and get him to retract his statement after the death threats start rolling in. Also hard to discredit someone by finding a post they made back when they were 16 on Facebook that points to what a dirty lying pinko commie deep state plant they are if you don't have a name. This is why whistle blower laws exist. I'm getting real sick of our representatives not knowing/deliberately ignoring the law in favor of "deep state" conspiracy theories that keep their noses buried in Trump's ass. Part of me hopes (though I doubt it) they lie awake at night terrified for their immortal souls. They first must have a soul to worry about it. they lie awake at night terrified for their immortal souls.
Naaaa,,, As a Conservative, Republican, I dream at night of EVIL and havoc I can create,, money to be made off those wimpy, mousey, little libs,,
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Post by laterbloomer on Nov 4, 2019 22:14:53 GMT -5
They want the whistle blower to appear so they can blast his face all over social media as a traitor and get him to retract his statement after the death threats start rolling in. Also hard to discredit someone by finding a post they made back when they were 16 on Facebook that points to what a dirty lying pinko commie deep state plant they are if you don't have a name. This is why whistle blower laws exist. I'm getting real sick of our representatives not knowing/deliberately ignoring the law in favor of "deep state" conspiracy theories that keep their noses buried in Trump's ass. Part of me hopes (though I doubt it) they lie awake at night terrified for their immortal souls. Not allowed to face your accuser?? Kangaroo courts and Shiff's Congress apparently.
Congress is his accuser and he's staying as far away from them as possible. Congress would be thrilled for him to face them.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 4, 2019 22:32:38 GMT -5
They want the whistle blower to appear so they can blast his face all over social media as a traitor and get him to retract his statement after the death threats start rolling in. Also hard to discredit someone by finding a post they made back when they were 16 on Facebook that points to what a dirty lying pinko commie deep state plant they are if you don't have a name. This is why whistle blower laws exist. I'm getting real sick of our representatives not knowing/deliberately ignoring the law in favor of "deep state" conspiracy theories that keep their noses buried in Trump's ass. Part of me hopes (though I doubt it) they lie awake at night terrified for their immortal souls. Not allowed to face your accuser?? Kangaroo courts and Shiff's Congress apparently.
He can face the other witnesses. Also, THIS IS NOT A CRIMINAL TRIAL.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 4, 2019 22:37:57 GMT -5
They want the whistle blower to appear so they can blast his face all over social media as a traitor and get him to retract his statement after the death threats start rolling in. Also hard to discredit someone by finding a post they made back when they were 16 on Facebook that points to what a dirty lying pinko commie deep state plant they are if you don't have a name. This is why whistle blower laws exist. I'm getting real sick of our representatives not knowing/deliberately ignoring the law in favor of "deep state" conspiracy theories that keep their noses buried in Trump's ass. Part of me hopes (though I doubt it) they lie awake at night terrified for their immortal souls. Not allowed to face your accuser?? Kangaroo courts and Shiff's Congress apparently.
You really are clueless how the impeachment process works. If you did, you would know that right now it is in investigation mode. Once the investigation is over, the full house after hearing all the facts of the investigation will vote whether to impeach or not. That is the same as a grand jury voting to indict or not. Grand juries do not hold trials where the defendant is present and where the defendent's attorney can cross examine witnesses. If the full house votes by majority to indict, then it moves to the senate where a trial is held and presided by supreme court justice John Roberts. It is questionable if trump will testify at the Senate trial. After all, his attorneys did not want him to be questioned in person and under oath during the Mueller investigation because they were sure he would perjure himself. I imagine they would counsel trump with this recommendation too during the senate trial So stop with your nonsense about not being able to face his accuser. That is not how an impeachment works. If you are unhappy with that, take it up with the founders of our country.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 4, 2019 22:38:53 GMT -5
They first must have a soul to worry about it. they lie awake at night terrified for their immortal souls.
Naaaa,,, As a Conservative, Republican, I dream at night of EVIL and havoc I can create,, money to be made off those wimpy, mousey, little libs,,
Male elephants in heat usually do.
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Post by NastyWoman on Nov 5, 2019 0:33:44 GMT -5
Not allowed to face your accuser?? Kangaroo courts and Shiff's Congress apparently.
He can face the other witnesses. Also, THIS IS NOT A CRIMINAL TRIAL. This and not only is this not a criminal trial, this is NOT a trial - period. This is an investigation to see whether there is sufficient reason to impsach. If there is an impeachment , and only the, will there be a trial in the Senate OC. Stop with pretending there is anything untoward going on by claiming the process is further along than it really is. It only makes you look really stupid which I doubt you really are
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 5, 2019 0:44:09 GMT -5
Are you sure about that?
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Post by dezii on Nov 5, 2019 0:54:47 GMT -5
IT IS ILLEGAL TO REVEAL THE WHISTLEBLOWER'S IDENTITY. ...true...however, the Donald believes he is above the law, and it seems many of his base and GOP supporters do too...Kind of along the lines of Louis the 1V...Henry the eighth...{Devine right of Kings..} Possible someone should inform the Donald and his supporters that this is the 21st century..In this country, it seems the constitution and laws rule......even for the POTUS... Just saying. {Did anyone else here watch as he vented today about the whistle blower , having to be identified...ranting really...out of control in public..{on White House grounds} The man who controls over 2500 nuclear weapons and delivery systems...and who is there to say no if for what ever reason hw says "Go"..? } Scary S**T...even for our resident Donald supporters I am believing, even if they won't admit it...
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Post by dezii on Nov 5, 2019 1:13:01 GMT -5
They want the whistle blower to appear so they can blast his face all over social media as a traitor and get him to retract his statement after the death threats start rolling in. Also hard to discredit someone by finding a post they made back when they were 16 on Facebook that points to what a dirty lying pinko commie deep state plant they are if you don't have a name. This is why whistle blower laws exist. I'm getting real sick of our representatives not knowing/deliberately ignoring the law in favor of "deep state" conspiracy theories that keep their noses buried in Trump's ass. Part of me hopes (though I doubt it) they lie awake at night terrified for their immortal souls. Not allowed to face your accuser?? Kangaroo courts and Shiff's Congress apparently.
Again with the ..{News to u...always here to fact check } Whistle blower brings concerns to proper committees , individuals...Then THEY do the investigating to see if concerns of the WB hold water or not and THEY decide to forget the concerns or investigate further,,,to get to the truth. In this particular case, since it does involve the different political parties..there are many, many members of the GOP on the investigating committee able to question those individuals appearing behind closed door in closed door hearings....and NOW it seems the hearings are moving to open, for the public to hear stage, So what is your problem?...The Donald , if he has concerns, should be more concerned , IMHO, not with the WB, who had concerns and brought those concerns to proper folks..but those who heard the concerns and felt they had merit and moved investigation of the concerns to this point.
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Post by dezii on Nov 5, 2019 1:15:28 GMT -5
He can face the other witnesses. Also, THIS IS NOT A CRIMINAL TRIAL. This and not only is this not a criminal trial, this is NOT a trial - period. This is an investigation to see whether there is sufficient reason to impsach. If there is an impeachment , and only the, will there be a trial in the Senate OC. Stop with pretending there is anything untoward going on by claiming the process is further along than it really is. It only makes you look really stupid which I doubt you really are Granted not stupid...just here to ...believe I heard his prime residence is under bridges...
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Post by dezii on Nov 5, 2019 1:54:12 GMT -5
They want the whistle blower to appear so they can blast his face all over social media as a traitor and get him to retract his statement after the death threats start rolling in. Also hard to discredit someone by finding a post they made back when they were 16 on Facebook that points to what a dirty lying pinko commie deep state plant they are if you don't have a name. This is why whistle blower laws exist. I'm getting real sick of our representatives not knowing/deliberately ignoring the law in favor of "deep state" conspiracy theories that keep their noses buried in Trump's ass. Part of me hopes (though I doubt it) they lie awake at night terrified for their immortal souls. Not allowed to face your accuser?? Kangaroo courts and Shiff's Congress apparently.
A article which may answer some of your so called concerns..{we know u really have no real concerns..just interested in } ================================== "Since the impeachment inquiry began several weeks ago, Republicans have complained about the allegedly secretive nature of the witness interviews. The release on Monday of the two transcripts appeared designed to undercut those complaints. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has said that public hearings would begin soon." =============================== www.yahoo.com/news/release-of-house-transcripts-darkens-prospects-for-trump-203526454.html
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Nov 5, 2019 7:50:05 GMT -5
They want the whistle blower to appear so they can blast his face all over social media as a traitor and get him to retract his statement after the death threats start rolling in. Also hard to discredit someone by finding a post they made back when they were 16 on Facebook that points to what a dirty lying pinko commie deep state plant they are if you don't have a name. This is why whistle blower laws exist. I'm getting real sick of our representatives not knowing/deliberately ignoring the law in favor of "deep state" conspiracy theories that keep their noses buried in Trump's ass. Part of me hopes (though I doubt it) they lie awake at night terrified for their immortal souls. They first must have a soul to worry about it. I assume they lie awake wondering when, how, and what they'll do when the gravy train ends.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Nov 5, 2019 8:27:23 GMT -5
searchcompliance.techtarget.com/definition/Whistleblower-Protection-ActNot that anybody will read it or will somehow figure out a reason as to why the whistle blower against Trump is somehow exempt because after all it's Trump. The act states that an employee who makes disclosures as a whistleblower and then is subject to retaliatory actions can report the suspected acts of reprisal to the OSC, which would further investigate the charge.I'd say that Trump tweeting to his base about traitors and pretty much calling for the guy's execution qualifies as the above but I am sure people will disagree because again. . .Trump.
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Post by happyhoix on Nov 5, 2019 8:36:34 GMT -5
They want the whistle blower to appear so they can blast his face all over social media as a traitor and get him to retract his statement after the death threats start rolling in. Also hard to discredit someone by finding a post they made back when they were 16 on Facebook that points to what a dirty lying pinko commie deep state plant they are if you don't have a name. This is why whistle blower laws exist. I'm getting real sick of our representatives not knowing/deliberately ignoring the law in favor of "deep state" conspiracy theories that keep their noses buried in Trump's ass. Part of me hopes (though I doubt it) they lie awake at night terrified for their immortal souls. This is just a GOP distraction. Just like the rants about the football players who won't kneel for the flag, and the 'build the wall' tweets.
The more time Trump can fill up on TV, the more bits of digital media he can occupy with rants about the anonymous whistleblower, the less space there is for the Dems to make their case that Trump is behaving in an impeachable manner.
He doesn't act outrageously because he can't help himself, he does it to focus public attention away from all the bullshittery he doesn't want people to notice.
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 5, 2019 8:40:10 GMT -5
Not allowed to face your accuser?? Kangaroo courts and Shiff's Congress apparently.
You really are clueless how the impeachment process works. If you did, you would know that right now it is in investigation mode. Once the investigation is over, the full house after hearing all the facts of the investigation will vote whether to impeach or not. That is the same as a grand jury voting to indict or not. Grand juries do not hold trials where the defendant is present and where the defendent's attorney can cross examine witnesses. If the full house votes by majority to indict, then it moves to the senate where a trial is held and presided by supreme court justice John Roberts. It is questionable if trump will testify at the Senate trial. After all, his attorneys did not want him to be questioned in person and under oath during the Mueller investigation because they were sure he would perjure himself. I imagine they would counsel trump with this recommendation too during the senate trial So stop with your nonsense about not being able to face his accuser. That is not how an impeachment works. If you are unhappy with that, take it up with the founders of our country. I was posting about the whistle blower.
The hiding of the whistle blower, they are protected from retaliation, since they are protected, put their name out.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 5, 2019 9:00:55 GMT -5
You really are clueless how the impeachment process works. If you did, you would know that right now it is in investigation mode. Once the investigation is over, the full house after hearing all the facts of the investigation will vote whether to impeach or not. That is the same as a grand jury voting to indict or not. Grand juries do not hold trials where the defendant is present and where the defendent's attorney can cross examine witnesses. If the full house votes by majority to indict, then it moves to the senate where a trial is held and presided by supreme court justice John Roberts. It is questionable if trump will testify at the Senate trial. After all, his attorneys did not want him to be questioned in person and under oath during the Mueller investigation because they were sure he would perjure himself. I imagine they would counsel trump with this recommendation too during the senate trial So stop with your nonsense about not being able to face his accuser. That is not how an impeachment works. If you are unhappy with that, take it up with the founders of our country. I was posting about the whistle blower.
The hiding of the whistle blower, they are protected from retaliation, since they are protected, put their name out.
You wrote, "Not allowed to face your accuser??" Who is not allowed to face their accuser? Trump? As for giving out the whistleblower's name? You're a little bit too old to be that naive, you who likes to have his photo taken holding an assault rifle while wearing an Oath Keeper tee-shirt. You know exactly what would happen if the whistleblower's name was released.
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Post by happyhoix on Nov 5, 2019 11:03:26 GMT -5
You really are clueless how the impeachment process works. If you did, you would know that right now it is in investigation mode. Once the investigation is over, the full house after hearing all the facts of the investigation will vote whether to impeach or not. That is the same as a grand jury voting to indict or not. Grand juries do not hold trials where the defendant is present and where the defendent's attorney can cross examine witnesses. If the full house votes by majority to indict, then it moves to the senate where a trial is held and presided by supreme court justice John Roberts. It is questionable if trump will testify at the Senate trial. After all, his attorneys did not want him to be questioned in person and under oath during the Mueller investigation because they were sure he would perjure himself. I imagine they would counsel trump with this recommendation too during the senate trial So stop with your nonsense about not being able to face his accuser. That is not how an impeachment works. If you are unhappy with that, take it up with the founders of our country. I was posting about the whistle blower.
The hiding of the whistle blower, they are protected from retaliation, since they are protected, put their name out.
They are protected from legal ramifications from their employers - like being fired or demoted for whistleblowing.
They are not protected from every loon with a gun. Remember the guy who showed up at the pizza parlor in DC with a gun to liberate all the small children being held captive in the basement as part of Clinton's child sex ring?
The world is full of nut jobs, of any political stripe, left or right. Anti abortion people who will murder doctors who do abortions. Green activist who will blow up excavation equipment to prevent earth moving activities. It's always a good idea to try to not become a target of the nut jobs. That's what this whistleblower is trying to do, and the law allows him that protection.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 5, 2019 11:43:36 GMT -5
I was posting about the whistle blower.
The hiding of the whistle blower, they are protected from retaliation, since they are protected, put their name out.
They are protected from legal ramifications from their employers - like being fired or demoted for whistleblowing.
They are not protected from every loon with a gun. Remember the guy who showed up at the pizza parlor in DC with a gun to liberate all the small children being held captive in the basement as part of Clinton's child sex ring?
The world is full of nut jobs, of any political stripe, left or right. Anti abortion people who will murder doctors who do abortions. Green activist who will blow up excavation equipment to prevent earth moving activities. It's always a good idea to try to not become a target of the nut jobs. That's what this whistleblower is trying to do, and the law allows him that protection.
And heaven forbid the whistleblower has a common first and last name and lives in an area where multiple people have the same first and last names. Murdered John Smiths everywhere in WhoKnowsWhereville, USA.
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Post by swamp on Nov 5, 2019 11:48:00 GMT -5
I was posting about the whistle blower.
The hiding of the whistle blower, they are protected from retaliation, since they are protected, put their name out.
They are protected from legal ramifications from their employers - like being fired or demoted for whistleblowing.
They are not protected from every loon with a gun. Remember the guy who showed up at the pizza parlor in DC with a gun to liberate all the small children being held captive in the basement as part of Clinton's child sex ring?
The world is full of nut jobs, of any political stripe, left or right. Anti abortion people who will murder doctors who do abortions. Green activist who will blow up excavation equipment to prevent earth moving activities. It's always a good idea to try to not become a target of the nut jobs. That's what this whistleblower is trying to do, and the law allows him that protection.
It really isn't a hard concept to grasp, is it?
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Nov 5, 2019 12:43:53 GMT -5
You really are clueless how the impeachment process works. If you did, you would know that right now it is in investigation mode. Once the investigation is over, the full house after hearing all the facts of the investigation will vote whether to impeach or not. That is the same as a grand jury voting to indict or not. Grand juries do not hold trials where the defendant is present and where the defendent's attorney can cross examine witnesses. If the full house votes by majority to indict, then it moves to the senate where a trial is held and presided by supreme court justice John Roberts. It is questionable if trump will testify at the Senate trial. After all, his attorneys did not want him to be questioned in person and under oath during the Mueller investigation because they were sure he would perjure himself. I imagine they would counsel trump with this recommendation too during the senate trial So stop with your nonsense about not being able to face his accuser. That is not how an impeachment works. If you are unhappy with that, take it up with the founders of our country. I was posting about the whistle blower.
The hiding of the whistle blower, they are protected from retaliation, since they are protected, put their name out.
It's called the internet. Once I have your name I can look up you, your family, friends, co-workers and send all sorts of death threats. After all my Dear Leader told me what we used to do to traitors and spies in the old days. If I can't find you I can threaten to harm loved ones to get you to come out in the open. You're not possibly that stupid.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 5, 2019 16:07:50 GMT -5
You really are clueless how the impeachment process works. If you did, you would know that right now it is in investigation mode. Once the investigation is over, the full house after hearing all the facts of the investigation will vote whether to impeach or not. That is the same as a grand jury voting to indict or not. Grand juries do not hold trials where the defendant is present and where the defendent's attorney can cross examine witnesses. If the full house votes by majority to indict, then it moves to the senate where a trial is held and presided by supreme court justice John Roberts. It is questionable if trump will testify at the Senate trial. After all, his attorneys did not want him to be questioned in person and under oath during the Mueller investigation because they were sure he would perjure himself. I imagine they would counsel trump with this recommendation too during the senate trial So stop with your nonsense about not being able to face his accuser. That is not how an impeachment works. If you are unhappy with that, take it up with the founders of our country. I was posting about the whistle blower.
The hiding of the whistle blower, they are protected from retaliation, since they are protected, put their name out.
You don't NEED the whistleblower. Everyone is singing like canaries. In a significant reversal, a top US diplomat has changed his testimony in the impeachment inquiry to now admit there was a quid pro quo linking US aid to Ukraine with an investigation into President Donald Trump's political rival. www.cnn.com/2019/11/05/politics/gordon-sondland-kurt-volker-transcripts-impeachment-inquiry/index.html
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Post by justme on Nov 5, 2019 16:11:35 GMT -5
I'd like to submit the second piece of evidence to their hypocrisy:
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 5, 2019 16:13:44 GMT -5
I'd like to submit the second piece of evidence to their hypocrisy: And the hypocrisy is Don jr. making money off of don sr.'s name and current job. The Bidens indeed!
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