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Post by Bob Ross on Oct 25, 2019 15:20:13 GMT -5
Well if Trump stopped doing shady sh*t, they'd have nothing to investigate, now would they? Unless of course you think he's an honest, innocent guy who's done nothing wrong and the investigations are completely unwarranted. So far, going by the results of all the previous investigations, he's no more guilty of crime than the average billionaire. The premise of "doing shady shit" isn't very conclusive. As far as the previous investigations go, we'll see. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-rules-doj-must-turn-over-mueller-grand-jury-material-to-house-democrats/ar-AAJmMQW?li=BBnb7KzI'm not going to bother debating the state of the current impeachment inquiry with you because the bulk of it has already been said by other posters, and you've obviously made up your mind, no matter what.
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Post by thyme4change on Oct 25, 2019 15:22:43 GMT -5
What makes you think Congress is going to sit on this?
This is just the 'investigation' phase.
You don't want the Dems going off half cocked, dragging Trump through an impeachment hearing over something that someone might have said someplace, right? No hearsay, right?
Now we've got a 15 page, nicely typed document that Taylor was kind of enough to offer to the public that allows everyone, including you, to see exactly why we need to move this from the investigation phase to the impeachment phase, when Taylor will no doubt be asked to appear again, in public, in the Senate, to outline for everyone what he wrote in that opening document, so it's right out there in the open.
Unless the GOP sets fire to the Senate or abducts Bill Taylor or some other half witted attempted to derail the legal process.
This is just the 'never ending, without conclusion, on everything under the sun', investigation phase. (Fixed) Better buckle up butter cup. The Cohen testimony is tomorrow, or was it Mueller ? Who was it again ? It's called the Clinton model. Keep investigating your enemy until they get Parkinsons and die.
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Post by Opti on Oct 25, 2019 15:41:21 GMT -5
Well if Trump stopped doing shady sh*t, they'd have nothing to investigate, now would they? Unless of course you think he's an honest, innocent guy who's done nothing wrong and the investigations are completely unwarranted. (Fox News host) Mark Levin: ‘Hasn’t Even Been a Hint of Scandal’ in Trump’s Presidency“But I will say this about our president,” the conservative blowhard continued: “While he’s been president there hasn’t even been a hint of scandal. Not a hint!” October 22, 2019 Right-wing talker and Fox News host Mark Levin hilariously claimed this week that President Donald Trump, who is currently embroiled in an impeachment inquiry for allegedly pressuring a foreign leader to dig up dirt on a political rival, hasn’t even had a “hint of scandal” during his time in the White House. Mark Levin: ‘Hasn’t Even Been a Hint of Scandal’ in Trump’s PresidencyLiars and deniers. But maybe they are partially right. Its not a hint, its a big assed billboard with lots of bullet points.
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Post by Icelandic Woman on Oct 25, 2019 16:16:48 GMT -5
Ha Ha Ha Wow the "Lipstick on a Pig" brigade is here in full force today. That is the phrase that immediately pops into my mind when they try and defend the indefensible or spin his behavior. Look Squirrel!
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 25, 2019 16:23:21 GMT -5
I clicked on your link,, nothing there about closed door testimony, If it was closed door how did we find out? And there it is. The question of questions. Further, my understanding is that the Dems have these "witnesses" squirreled away in a SCIF-- that means nothing leaves the room. So, these leaks are criminal acts. I'm comfortable with it, though. The Democrats are committing political suicide with this whole super-secrete fake impeachment theater. They're trapped, though- if they don't excite and titillate the 30% of resistance nutjobs that now comprise the base of the party, they're screwed; and if they stay at it they'll alienate every last moderate Democrat, independent or swing voter in the country. It's a fine line- they have to convince the "resistance" impeachment is real and happening while making sure the moderates, independents and swing voters don't notice.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 25, 2019 16:24:33 GMT -5
And they stormed a secure area with their electronic devices... it’s going to have to be swept apparently? This thread is about information from said secure area being illegally leaked, right?
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Post by steff on Oct 25, 2019 16:30:05 GMT -5
Nothing has been leaked. All information so far has come from the opening statements from each witness & reactions/statements from those in the room. Those have all been legally released to the public. And btw, there are Republicans in the room also. It's not a room full of Democrats hiding things. There are just as many Republicans in the room.
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Post by NastyWoman on Oct 25, 2019 17:55:27 GMT -5
Well if Trump stopped doing shady sh*t, they'd have nothing to investigate, now would they? Unless of course you think he's an honest, innocent guy who's done nothing wrong and the investigations are completely unwarranted. (Fox News host) Mark Levin: ‘Hasn’t Even Been a Hint of Scandal’ in Trump’s Presidency“But I will say this about our president,” the conservative blowhard continued: “While he’s been president there hasn’t even been a hint of scandal. Not a hint!” October 22, 2019 Right-wing talker and Fox News host Mark Levin hilariously claimed this week that President Donald Trump, who is currently embroiled in an impeachment inquiry for allegedly pressuring a foreign leader to dig up dirt on a political rival, hasn’t even had a “hint of scandal” during his time in the White House. Mark Levin: ‘Hasn’t Even Been a Hint of Scandal’ in Trump’s PresidencyNow come on Tennesseer Mark Levin is technically speaking 100% correct. There has not been a HINT of of scandal in trumps presidency. Of course my statement depends on the definition of "hint" → anyone who considers the sh*t storm we have seen in the last couple of years coming from the WH "a hint" has some 'splaining to do:
hint /hint/ Learn to pronounce noun a slight or indirect indication or suggestion.
(Source Meriam Webster)
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 25, 2019 18:58:34 GMT -5
I clicked on your link,, nothing there about closed door testimony, If it was closed door how did we find out? And there it is. The question of questions. Further, my understanding is that the Dems have these "witnesses" squirreled away in a SCIF-- that means nothing leaves the room. So, these leaks are criminal acts. I'm comfortable with it, though. The Democrats are committing political suicide with this whole super-secrete fake impeachment theater. They're trapped, though- if they don't excite and titillate the 30% of resistance nutjobs that now comprise the base of the party, they're screwed; and if they stay at it they'll alienate every last moderate Democrat, independent or swing voter in the country. It's a fine line- they have to convince the "resistance" impeachment is real and happening while making sure the moderates, independents and swing voters don't notice. You were the one who claimed that Mueller was actually investigating the DEMS and when he came forward with his findings everyone would be frog marched at dawn into the streets to be shot, but in a nonviolent way, because only the Dems are violent.
And you had a top level source who was 100% sure Clinton would be dead in months. Three years ago.
So unfortunately for you, I don't believe 'your understandings' at all anymore - because they don't seem to be 'understandings' at all.
More like wishful thinking.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 25, 2019 19:20:09 GMT -5
And there it is. The question of questions. Further, my understanding is that the Dems have these "witnesses" squirreled away in a SCIF-- that means nothing leaves the room. So, these leaks are criminal acts. I'm comfortable with it, though. The Democrats are committing political suicide with this whole super-secrete fake impeachment theater. They're trapped, though- if they don't excite and titillate the 30% of resistance nutjobs that now comprise the base of the party, they're screwed; and if they stay at it they'll alienate every last moderate Democrat, independent or swing voter in the country. It's a fine line- they have to convince the "resistance" impeachment is real and happening while making sure the moderates, independents and swing voters don't notice. You were the one who claimed that Mueller was actually investigating the DEMS and when he came forward with his findings everyone would be frog marched at dawn into the streets to be shot, but in a nonviolent way, because only the Dems are violent.
And you had a top level source who was 100% sure Clinton would be dead in months. Three years ago.
So unfortunately for you, I don't believe 'your understandings' at all anymore - because they don't seem to be 'understandings' at all.
More like wishful thinking.
John le Carré he's not.
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Post by dondub on Oct 25, 2019 19:21:32 GMT -5
More like paranoid delusions.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2019 7:41:40 GMT -5
Yes and you seem more into pictures and posturing for likes, really not much here for me either. You will find plenty of posters here who will agree with anything you post in this vein. Have a great day.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2019 7:44:03 GMT -5
This is just the 'never ending, without conclusion, on everything under the sun', investigation phase. (Fixed) Better buckle up butter cup. The Cohen testimony is tomorrow, or was it Mueller ? Who was it again ? It's called the Clinton model. Keep investigating your enemy until they get Parkinsons and die. I agree, I wasn't on board with the endless Clinton investigations either.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 26, 2019 10:14:57 GMT -5
Well if Trump stopped doing shady sh*t, they'd have nothing to investigate, now would they? Unless of course you think he's an honest, innocent guy who's done nothing wrong and the investigations are completely unwarranted. So far, going by the results of all the previous investigations, he's no more guilty of crime than the average billionaire. The premise of "doing shady shit" isn't very conclusive. you really don't think much of average billionaires, do you?
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 26, 2019 10:16:58 GMT -5
(Fox News host) Mark Levin: ‘Hasn’t Even Been a Hint of Scandal’ in Trump’s Presidency“But I will say this about our president,” the conservative blowhard continued: “While he’s been president there hasn’t even been a hint of scandal. Not a hint!” October 22, 2019 Right-wing talker and Fox News host Mark Levin hilariously claimed this week that President Donald Trump, who is currently embroiled in an impeachment inquiry for allegedly pressuring a foreign leader to dig up dirt on a political rival, hasn’t even had a “hint of scandal” during his time in the White House. Mark Levin: ‘Hasn’t Even Been a Hint of Scandal’ in Trump’s PresidencyNow come on Tennesseer Mark Levin is technically speaking 100% correct. There has not been a HINT of of scandal in trumps presidency. Of course my statement depends on the definition of "hint" → anyone who considers the sh*t storm we have seen in the last couple of years coming from the WH "a hint" has some 'splaining to do:
hint /hint/ Learn to pronounce noun a slight or indirect indication or suggestion.
(Source Meriam Webster)
he's right in away. what we actually have is a raging inferno of scandal, not a hint.
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Post by Bob Ross on Oct 27, 2019 0:01:04 GMT -5
Yes and you seem more into pictures and posturing for likes, really not much here for me either. You will find plenty of posters here who will agree with anything you post in this vein. Have a great day. BWAHAHAHA!! Sig-worthy!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 8:53:59 GMT -5
Yes and you seem more into pictures and posturing for likes, really not much here for me either. You will find plenty of posters here who will agree with anything you post in this vein. Have a great day. BWAHAHAHA!! Sig-worthy! But so very true. And here I thought you said you had nothing to discuss. I jumped right down to lower level, and here you are quoting me again. Good to know what people are looking for.
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Post by Opti on Oct 29, 2019 15:36:19 GMT -5
I clicked on your link,, nothing there about closed door testimony, If it was closed door how did we find out? And there it is. The question of questions. Further, my understanding is that the Dems have these "witnesses" squirreled away in a SCIF-- that means nothing leaves the room. So, these leaks are criminal acts. I'm comfortable with it, though. The Democrats are committing political suicide with this whole super-secrete fake impeachment theater. They're trapped, though- if they don't excite and titillate the 30% of resistance nutjobs that now comprise the base of the party, they're screwed; and if they stay at it they'll alienate every last moderate Democrat, independent or swing voter in the country. It's a fine line- they have to convince the "resistance" impeachment is real and happening while making sure the moderates, independents and swing voters don't notice. You mean the non-secret closed door testimony that 25% of the Republicans can attend? The one that had a bunch of GOPers behind the door? Whatever happened to the "I am not a victim code" that was supposed to be a big part of the conservative/GOP message?
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 30, 2019 7:09:07 GMT -5
Heard on a talking head show this Am - what if the whistleblower never came forward, and no one ever found out that Trump was strong arming the Ukraine to create the 'proof' that he wanted?
If Trump's plan worked, and the Ukraine came forward on CNN with 'proof' that the Biden's were dirty, and that they had found the mysterious DNC server that the previous Ukrainian president had hidden someplace in the state capital basement, proving that it was the Ukraine, and not Russia, who interfered with the 2016 election, who would ultimately come out a winner in that?
Putin. Russia would be cleared of election meddling, the Ukraine would be shown to be 'dirty' and the GOP House and Senate would refuse to grant them any more military aid, and the US would refuse to come to their assistance if Russia decided to grab more of their country.
So then the question is, is Trump Putin's partner in crime, colluding with him, or is he simply Putin's stooge, being manipulated by the ex-Russian spy?
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Oct 30, 2019 7:12:44 GMT -5
Stooge or easily duped minion.
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 30, 2019 7:15:15 GMT -5
Stooge or easily duped minion. My vote, too.
Trump has wanted a Trump Hotel Moscow for decades. All Putin had to do was dangle that in front of him, and Trump would dance for him like a trained Siberian bear, IMHO.
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Post by thyme4change on Oct 30, 2019 10:22:29 GMT -5
Heard on a talking head show this Am - what if the whistleblower never came forward, and no one ever found out that Trump was strong arming the Ukraine to create the 'proof' that he wanted?
If Trump's plan worked, and the Ukraine came forward on CNN with 'proof' that the Biden's were dirty, and that they had found the mysterious DNC server that the previous Ukrainian president had hidden someplace in the state capital basement, proving that it was the Ukraine, and not Russia, who interfered with the 2016 election, who would ultimately come out a winner in that?
Putin. Russia would be cleared of election meddling, the Ukraine would be shown to be 'dirty' and the GOP House and Senate would refuse to grant them any more military aid, and the US would refuse to come to their assistance if Russia decided to grab more of their country.
So then the question is, is Trump Putin's partner in crime, colluding with him, or is he simply Putin's stooge, being manipulated by the ex-Russian spy?
I'm not sure proof was necessary. One of the main things Trump asked for was for a Ukrainian official to make a televised statement that they were opening an investigation into Biden. That is enough for the right to make hay.
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Post by swamp on Oct 30, 2019 11:16:31 GMT -5
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Post by OldCoyote on Oct 30, 2019 11:20:11 GMT -5
Hmmmm, reminds me of those who had made up their minds before the conclusion of the Mueller thing.
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 30, 2019 11:53:56 GMT -5
Hmmmm, reminds me of those who had made up their minds before the conclusion of the Mueller thing. YOU made your mind up before the conclusion of the 'Mueller' thing.
And it didn't change, despite what the 'Mueller' thing revealed.
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Post by OldCoyote on Oct 30, 2019 12:54:41 GMT -5
Hmmmm, reminds me of those who had made up their minds before the conclusion of the Mueller thing. YOU made your mind up before the conclusion of the 'Mueller' thing.
And it didn't change, despite what the 'Mueller' thing revealed.
The difference was,,,,, I was right, when I said there was nothing there!!
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Post by OldCoyote on Oct 30, 2019 13:11:39 GMT -5
lets, look at what started this, Biden's son,
We have a drug using loser, that if it as not for the fact that who his father is,, would have trouble holding down a job as some one standing on a street corner, Holding will work for food sign!! remember daddy pulled string to get the over age baby into the Navy in hopes the military could straighten him up,,, Nope,, screwed up got kicked out.. It had to be really bad for the Navy to kick out the son of the Vice President!!! Biden himself, blackmailed the Ukraine Government, over money if they didn't fire the person that was investigating the Co. that kiddie boy worked for urrr, was paid to be an inside track to his father!! $50,000 a month inside track by the way.. I have lost track, is he still screwing his dead brother wife still?? Rake Trump over the coals,, yet ignore what the kid and Biden have done.
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Post by swamp on Oct 30, 2019 13:18:23 GMT -5
lets, look at what started this, Biden's son,
We have a drug using loser, that if it as not for the fact that who his father is,, would have trouble holding down a job as some one standing on a street corner, Holding will work for food sign!! remember daddy pulled string to get the over age baby into the Navy in hopes the military could straighten him up,,, Nope,, screwed up got kicked out.. It had to be really bad for the Navy to kick out the son of the Vice President!!! Biden himself, blackmailed the Ukraine Government, over money if they didn't fire the person that was investigating the Co. that kiddie boy worked for urrr, was paid to be an inside track to his father!! $50,000 a month inside track by the way.. I have lost track, is he still screwing his dead brother wife still?? Rake Trump over the coals,, yet ignore what the kid and Biden have done.
You have a very interesting take on the facts.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 30, 2019 13:44:28 GMT -5
lets, look at what started this, Biden's son,
We have a drug using loser, that if it as not for the fact that who his father is,, would have trouble holding down a job as some one standing on a street corner, Holding will work for food sign!! remember daddy pulled string to get the over age baby into the Navy in hopes the military could straighten him up,,, Nope,, screwed up got kicked out.. It had to be really bad for the Navy to kick out the son of the Vice President!!! Biden himself, blackmailed the Ukraine Government, over money if they didn't fire the person that was investigating the Co. that kiddie boy worked for urrr, was paid to be an inside track to his father!! $50,000 a month inside track by the way.. I have lost track, is he still screwing his dead brother wife still?? Rake Trump over the coals,, yet ignore what the kid and Biden have done.
You have a very interesting take on the facts. it reads like a C&P from one of the right wing blogs. almost pure crap from start to finish.
but that's ok. Trump will be impeached soon. no amount of this blather is going to change it.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 30, 2019 14:09:08 GMT -5
lets, look at what started this, Biden's son,
We have a drug using loser, that if it as not for the fact that who his father is,, would have trouble holding down a job as some one standing on a street corner, Holding will work for food sign!! remember daddy pulled string to get the over age baby into the Navy in hopes the military could straighten him up,,, Nope,, screwed up got kicked out.. It had to be really bad for the Navy to kick out the son of the Vice President!!! Biden himself, blackmailed the Ukraine Government, over money if they didn't fire the person that was investigating the Co. that kiddie boy worked for urrr, was paid to be an inside track to his father!! $50,000 a month inside track by the way.. I have lost track, is he still screwing his dead brother wife still?? Rake Trump over the coals,, yet ignore what the kid and Biden have done.
At least his brother was dead before he screwed his wife. How about trump screwing a porn star while his wife was giving birth to his child? You okay with that? You must be-you still support trump. And what exactly have the "kid" and Biden done?
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