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Post by billisonboard on Jan 24, 2021 20:21:04 GMT -5
Side by side houses? Seems a little "Big Love" to me. I had not thought of it that way....Jr's ex lives in a country club community nearby, so I doubt she'd move in next door. Maybe one house for the lovebirds and one for the kiddoes? Also possible that both houses are tear-downs and they build one big hideous structure. Because, yanno, two egos that big need a whole lotta space. I was thinking it was about maintaining at least an appearance of not living together in sin in case there is a political campaign in Jr's future (does that still matter to evangelical Christians?).
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 24, 2021 20:28:51 GMT -5
I had not thought of it that way....Jr's ex lives in a country club community nearby, so I doubt she'd move in next door. Maybe one house for the lovebirds and one for the kiddoes? Also possible that both houses are tear-downs and they build one big hideous structure. Because, yanno, two egos that big need a whole lotta space. I was thinking it was about maintaining at least an appearance of not living together in sin in case there is a political campaign in Jr's future (does that still matter to evangelical Christians?). A married man paying off a hooker he had a tryst with to keep her quiet so it wouldn't ruin his chances to win an election didn't seem to bother evangelical Christians so living in sin shouldn't matter too.
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Post by Opti on Jan 24, 2021 21:58:11 GMT -5
I was thinking it was about maintaining at least an appearance of not living together in sin in case there is a political campaign in Jr's future (does that still matter to evangelical Christians?). A married man paying off a hooker he had a tryst with to keep her quiet so it wouldn't ruin his chances to win an election didn't seem to bother evangelical Christians so living in sin shouldn't matter too. People like Franklin Graham seem to have reduced "Christian values" to pro-birth and anti LBGTQ ... so it seems the vocal ones have decided that's far more important than being Christ-like or even worshipping instead of judging.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 24, 2021 22:39:17 GMT -5
A married man paying off a hooker he had a tryst with to keep her quiet so it wouldn't ruin his chances to win an election didn't seem to bother evangelical Christians so living in sin shouldn't matter too. People like Franklin Graham seem to have reduced "Christian values" to pro-birth and anti LBGTQ ... so it seems the vocal ones have decided that's far more important than being Christ-like or even worshipping instead of judging. Even with just a couple of days left in office, Trump was still trying to stick it to the LBGTQ community. Biden official withdraws last-minute Trump LGBT memoPresident Biden's administration on Friday revoked a last-minute memo issued by former President Trump's Justice Department that sought to limit the scope of a landmark Supreme Court decision on workplace discrimination against the LGBTQ community. Greg Friel, the acting head of the Justice Department's civil rights division, on Friday issued a memo revoking a Trump administration directive in response to the Supreme Court's June 2020 ruling in Bostock v. Clayton County. The justices ruled in a 6-3 decision that the country's laws on sex discrimination in the workplace also apply to discrimination against LGBTQ individuals. The Wall Street Journal reported that the Trump Justice Department's 23-page memo dated Sunday said the court's ruling should not extend to areas where gender-based policies on bathrooms and sports teams are relevant. The memo also indicated that employers could cite religious beliefs as justification for discrimination against LGBTQ employees. However, Friday's move, first reported by Politico, revoked the Trump administration's memo, with Friel arguing that the directive conflicted with a Wednesday executive order from Biden that committed the federal government to preventing any type of discrimination on the basis of gender identity or sexual orientation. "I have determined that this memorandum is inconsistent in many respects with the E.O.," Friel wrote in his Friday directive to civil rights division colleagues, according to Politico. "I plan to confer with Department leadership about issuing revised guidance that comports with the policy set forth in the E.O. As part of that process, we will seek the input of Division subject matter experts." Biden's executive order, one of several actions taken on his first day in office, calls on federal government agencies to review current policies against sex discrimination to make sure they prohibit discrimination toward members of the LGBTQ community. "Every person should be treated with respect and dignity and should be able to live without fear, no matter who they are or whom they love," the order states. "Adults should be able to earn a living and pursue a vocation knowing that they will not be fired, demoted, or mistreated because of whom they go home to or because how they dress does not conform to sex-based stereotypes." "All persons should receive equal treatment under the law, no matter their gender identity or sexual orientation," the order adds. Complete article here: Biden official withdraws last-minute Trump LGBT memo
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Post by sesfw on Jan 25, 2021 19:23:58 GMT -5
A married man paying off a hooker he had a tryst with to keep her quiet so it wouldn't ruin his chances to win an election didn't seem to bother evangelical Christians so living in sin shouldn't matter too.
Bill Clinton? ........ Never mind, it was an intern not a hooker
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 25, 2021 19:29:17 GMT -5
A married man paying off a hooker he had a tryst with to keep her quiet so it wouldn't ruin his chances to win an election didn't seem to bother evangelical Christians so living in sin shouldn't matter too.
Bill Clinton? ........ Never mind, it was an intern not a hooker Nothing about the p*ssy grabber in addition to paying off his mistresses while his wife was having his baby, eh? Is that okay in your church?
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 25, 2021 19:45:49 GMT -5
A married man paying off a hooker he had a tryst with to keep her quiet so it wouldn't ruin his chances to win an election didn't seem to bother evangelical Christians so living in sin shouldn't matter too.
Bill Clinton? ........ Never mind, it was an intern not a hooker Clinton was a married guy who fooled around with young women - one of the oldest stories in the world, and something I don’t really care about. Clinton did it, Kennedy did it, probably more presidents did it than didn’t, truth be told. Not that I’m excusing the shitty behavior. Using campaign donations to buy off your girlfriends? That’s a violation of campaign law and I’m very interested in finding out if that actually happened.
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Post by dondub on Jan 25, 2021 20:04:07 GMT -5
A married man paying off a hooker he had a tryst with to keep her quiet so it wouldn't ruin his chances to win an election didn't seem to bother evangelical Christians so living in sin shouldn't matter too.
Bill Clinton? ........ Never mind, it was an intern not a hooker I guess you forgot he got impeached over that. Glad I could remind you. So far your Trump has paid no price at all for behavior much worse.
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Post by tallguy on Jan 25, 2021 20:20:43 GMT -5
A married man paying off a hooker he had a tryst with to keep her quiet so it wouldn't ruin his chances to win an election didn't seem to bother evangelical Christians so living in sin shouldn't matter too.
Bill Clinton? ........ Never mind, it was an intern not a hooker I guess you forgot he got impeached over that. Glad I could remind you. So far your Trump has paid no price at all for behavior much worse. Not to mention that Clinton had already won two elections by that point and wouldn't have any more upcoming, so no campaign finance laws were broken with his poor behavior. Also that the intern targeted him for a "romance." I would never suggest that Bill Clinton is or ever was a paragon of virtue, but overall his sins compared to Trump's are like a brief snow flurry compared to a raging blizzard covering multiple states.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 25, 2021 20:30:06 GMT -5
Many trump supporters sold their morals, ethics and even their souls even knowing trump was a criminal. And trump proved it without a doubt especially up to Inauguration day of this year.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jan 25, 2021 20:36:31 GMT -5
A married man paying off a hooker he had a tryst with to keep her quiet so it wouldn't ruin his chances to win an election didn't seem to bother evangelical Christians so living in sin shouldn't matter too.
Bill Clinton? ........ Never mind, it was an intern not a hooker Ah the good old days of Republican pearl clutching, hand wringing, moralizing about a married man having sex with a young women. Republicans were appalled, told us that morals mattered, and impeached him for it. Fast forward 20+ years. Trying to steal an election and instigating an insurrection is no big deal. Forget his paying off a hooker. I never expect to hear about how moral(or not) a presidential candidate is from republicans again. You have lost the right to that criticism. You nominated, elected, and defend the most immoral, corrupt, and self-centered individual to be president
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 25, 2021 21:19:32 GMT -5
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 25, 2021 21:20:35 GMT -5
Or a deep well.
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Post by mollyanna58 on Jan 25, 2021 21:48:18 GMT -5
The Office will also "advance the interests of the United States and … carry on the agenda of the Trump Administration through advocacy, organizing, and public activism."
So, continuing with the Trump Administration agenda of transferring as much money as possible from other people's bank accounts into his own.
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Post by tallguy on Jan 25, 2021 23:36:07 GMT -5
Definitely obtuse. Just like his followers.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 26, 2021 0:02:11 GMT -5
A pentagram, to do the devil's work.
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Post by Opti on Jan 26, 2021 3:25:29 GMT -5
The Office will also "advance the interests of the United States and … carry on the agenda of the Trump Administration through advocacy, organizing, and public activism."
So, continuing with the Trump Administration agenda of transferring as much money as possible from other people's bank accounts into his own.
Probably holding rallies equals public activism.
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Post by chiver78 on Jan 26, 2021 15:01:16 GMT -5
me neither.
I think you will find that this is the first time I have ever said ANYTHING about what women wear, in my decade and a half on this board.
but that dress is singularly atrocious, imo. sorry. it is just notably bad.
for the record, Trump needs a new tailor. his suits are overbaggy, and he should wear shorter, narrower ties. he looks like a bum with high brow tastes.
there. I folded the dude in. happy?
I'm not attacking anyone for mentioning someones clothing. Overall I think when we notice mens clothes its a comment about the clothes, but for women, we almost always notice and comment about her look, her outfit, the clothes as an extension of the person. Men can wear the same outfit everyday, but its not a polished look for women to do that. I didn't hear anything about Obamas suit until this thread, and Bernie comments have been as much or more about the mail and demeanor as it was his coat and gloves. I never saw the point in criticizing Trumps clothes when everything he said and did was so much more worthy to criticize. Clothes are a tool definitely. I'm just mulling over how their used differently for men and women and trying to weed out discrepancies. If fixing those means we start dissecting mens clothing choices, I won't argue. you did a better job of missing it than I did. from some parts of my FB world (overlapping with my music family, who is scattered across the country) it may as well have been the end of the world. *I'm a couple days late to catching up on this thread. apologies if this has already been beaten to death.
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 26, 2021 15:01:34 GMT -5
I saw a picture of Hillary from when she was first lady. It reminded me how many people thought she would divorce Bill ASAP when he Presidency was over. Clearly that didn't happen.
Melania might stay.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 26, 2021 15:38:43 GMT -5
I saw a picture of Hillary from when she was first lady. It reminded me how many people thought she would divorce Bill ASAP when he Presidency was over. Clearly that didn't happen. Melania might stay. I think if Bill had insisted on moving back to Arkansas, that would have been an issue with Hillary's political ambitions. I wonder of Melania will push to get back to NYC for social needs and how that might go.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 26, 2021 15:41:57 GMT -5
A married man paying off a hooker he had a tryst with to keep her quiet so it wouldn't ruin his chances to win an election didn't seem to bother evangelical Christians so living in sin shouldn't matter too.
Bill Clinton? ........ Never mind, it was an intern not a hooker Clinton was a married guy who fooled around with young women - one of the oldest stories in the world, and something I don’t really care about. Clinton did it, Kennedy did it, probably more presidents did it than didn’t, truth be told. Not that I’m excusing the shitty behavior. your view is very "European". in Europe, this kind of stuff doesn't even pass for scandal, let alone investigation and potential impeachment.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 26, 2021 15:54:52 GMT -5
I saw a picture of Hillary from when she was first lady. It reminded me how many people thought she would divorce Bill ASAP when he Presidency was over. Clearly that didn't happen. Melania might stay. From what I've seen they seem to genuinely care about each other and also recognize the political advantages they have as a couple. I've always wondered if when she passes we'll find out Hillary had an open marriage, she was just smarter about it. I have not seen anything outside money that makes me think the Trumps have anything to bind them as a couple. She clearly has no desire for politics so him becoming a right wing whack job holds no appeal. Could be wrong though. Not invested enough to care. She married him it's her business just like it's Hillary's.
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Post by NastyWoman on Jan 26, 2021 16:02:42 GMT -5
Clinton was a married guy who fooled around with young women - one of the oldest stories in the world, and something I don’t really care about. Clinton did it, Kennedy did it, probably more presidents did it than didn’t, truth be told. Not that I’m excusing the shitty behavior. your view is very "European". in Europe, this kind of stuff doesn't even pass for scandal, let alone investigation and potential impeachment. Not sure whether that is true in Great Britain, but in general this is true. That said, a few years ago a scandal rag tried to make a big deal about the major of Maastricht cheating on his husband. They sure regretted that after a deluge of protest that this was a homophobic attack. Huge first page public apology followed. I don't know whether that marriage survived but I really have zero interest in finding that out
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 16:24:46 GMT -5
You guys are forgetting that Bill Clinton wasn't impeached for poking an intern. He was impeached for lying under oath. Not that it makes any difference. Imagine the donald lying. Tsk, tsk.
I wanna have an after-the-fact official office just like the donald. If I knew how to do clever stuff with my laptop, I'd make myself an "official seal" and slap it on a podium. It would be the Office of the Former Cleaning Fairy. And the symbol (or would that be a logo?) would be a mop and a bucket.
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Post by dondub on Jan 26, 2021 17:21:43 GMT -5
You guys are forgetting that Bill Clinton wasn't impeached for poking an intern. He was impeached for lying under oath. Not that it makes any difference. Imagine the donald lying. Tsk, tsk. I wanna have an after-the-fact official office just like the donald. If I knew how to do clever stuff with my laptop, I'd make myself an "official seal" and slap it on a podium. It would be the Office of the Former Cleaning Fairy. And the symbol (or would that be a logo?) would be a mop and a bucket. For lying about poking an intern.
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Post by laterbloomer on Jan 26, 2021 19:08:29 GMT -5
You guys are forgetting that Bill Clinton wasn't impeached for poking an intern. He was impeached for lying under oath. Not that it makes any difference. Imagine the donald lying. Tsk, tsk. The real crime in that situation is how they eviscerated Monica Lewinsky when it became public. What they did to her should have been illegal and the Clinton's and their people should have paid for that. And even with having done that, Hillary was still a better pick than Trump.
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Post by dondub on Jan 26, 2021 19:31:08 GMT -5
You guys are forgetting that Bill Clinton wasn't impeached for poking an intern. He was impeached for lying under oath. Not that it makes any difference. Imagine the donald lying. Tsk, tsk. The real crime in that situation is how they eviscerated Monica Lewinsky when it became public. What they did to her should have been illegal and the Clinton's and their people should have paid for that. And even with having done that, Hillary was still a better pick than Trump. I believe Monica is still in full possession of her innards.😎
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Post by laterbloomer on Jan 26, 2021 20:06:54 GMT -5
The real crime in that situation is how they eviscerated Monica Lewinsky when it became public. What they did to her should have been illegal and the Clinton's and their people should have paid for that. And even with having done that, Hillary was still a better pick than Trump. I believe Monica is still in full possession of her innards.😎 No, they really did rip her guts out, as well as threatening, slut shaming and a million other terrible things.
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Post by dondub on Jan 26, 2021 20:30:43 GMT -5
I believe Monica is still in full possession of her innards.😎 No, they really did rip her guts out, as well as threatening, slut shaming and a million other terrible things. They refused to pay her dry cleaning bill!
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Post by irishpad on Jan 26, 2021 21:25:36 GMT -5
The Office will also "advance the interests of the United States and … carry on the agenda of the Trump Administration through advocacy, organizing, and public activism."
So now Trump is a community organizer? He will claim his is the best community organizer ever!
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