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Post by Lizard Queen on Jul 7, 2019 13:20:58 GMT -5
Just looking for little bits of advice, as we begin the process. We bought this house in the summer of 2007 with the express intent of redoing this kitchen. After living with it for over a decade, I know it is not very functional the way it is, and has a some wasted space which is at a premium because the kitchen isn't very big.
Our kitchen consists of a small U layout, plus a wall containing the stove, fridge and pantry closet that is deep and fairly narrow. There is a partial wall on the side of the fridge which does nothing but take up space. Since we wanted a regular sized fridge (the house came with no appliances, we had to rip out the few cabinets on that side to fit it in. We've been living like this ever since, and it looks bad. We have a microwave cart on the other side of that stupid, useless partition wall, which holds a toaster oven and our cereal boxes and cookbooks. The plan is to remove that useless wall, and all the bulkheads attached to it going around to the U-side of the kitchen as well. Also removing the pantry closet, as the wall takes up needed space and I think a pantry cabinet can utilize the space so much better. So, one problem with that is that we have plaster, and the ceiling in the kitchen space is done with a smooth finish, while the adjoining ceiling (connected to the dining area and hallway) has a brush-stroke finish. I'm not sure a good way to deal with that transition, as my DH doesn't want to put in a tin ceiling to cover it.
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Post by stillmovingforward on Jul 7, 2019 13:27:32 GMT -5
Put a false beam at the transition point? Or an archway. I have sheetrock and then a wainscot ceiling. The wainscott ceiling is set a bit higher than the sheetrock. I put wood trim over the edges of the pocket and it looks quite nice.
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Post by CCL on Jul 7, 2019 14:35:11 GMT -5
Personally, I'd want it all to match. If I couldn't do it myself, I'd hire a drywall guy.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jul 7, 2019 14:56:55 GMT -5
Put a false beam at the transition point? Or an archway. I have sheetrock and then a wainscot ceiling. The wainscott ceiling is set a bit higher than the sheetrock. I put wood trim over the edges of the pocket and it looks quite nice. Maybe a beam. The only thing is that I wanted to put some pendant lights near there, and I don't know what kind of placement would make it look weird. I don't think my DH would like wainscot on the ceiling, either, but I could be wrong. That could look good, I think.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jul 7, 2019 15:39:04 GMT -5
Personally, I'd want it all to match. If I couldn't do it myself, I'd hire a drywall guy. I like the brush texture on most of the ceiling, and it's really subtle. It's terrible to clean, though, so it makes sense to keep it out of the kitchen. I really don't want to put drywall over all that plaster. Probably way more expensive than just skimming over it, too.
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 7, 2019 16:27:33 GMT -5
Maybe a little trim all the way around and then either wallpaper, or put a totally different color on the ceiling in the kitchen.
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Post by CCL on Jul 7, 2019 22:26:53 GMT -5
Sorry, I missed the part about it being plaster. I'd still want it all to match, though, for myself, I'd be looking for a plaster guy.
I'm used to living in newer houses, so that's part of it, too. I guess I always feel like it should either match or should be completely different, so it doesn't just look like a "poor match."
I've been seeing wallpapers lately that are pretty realistic-looking wood. Most are even removable, so should be pretty easy to apply. You could probably find something that would look good and suit the style of your kitchen. Maybe add some trim like Thyme suggested.
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Post by happyhoix on Jul 8, 2019 9:42:41 GMT -5
I'm actually doing a kitchen remodel myself. The biggest surprise for me was the large variety of different cabinet options they have now. We have a 20 year old contractor grade kitchen right now, with zero bells and whistles, so getting things like a cabinet for trays/baking sheets right next to the stove is exiting (we're pretty boring ) We have basically an L shaped kitchen and had some dead space on the bottom cabinets between the sink on the long side of the L and the stove on the short side - essentially one small base cabinet door, into a cabinet with no shelves. You could get on your hands and knees and reach way back into the corner but it wasn't practical for much. We're moving the stove over about a foot, and now that base cabinet corner can fit a unit with curved pull out shelves:
www.cabinetparts.com/p/kessebohmer-organizers-kitchen-organizers-HAF54132145-p24143?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6KaKgcal4wIVgrbACh0U1A54EAQYAyABEgL4jPD_BwE Similarly, the corner upper cabinets were just two cabinets set at right angles to each other, which wasted the corner space (a big waste in a small kitchen) but the new corner cabinet will have two opposing doors and 3 shelves (it goes almost to the ceiling) so no wasted corner space. And we're going a microwave shelf (right now it sits on the counter) and some customized drawer inserts - I'm not looking forward to the short term chaos but we've spent 2 decades with the cheap cabinets, looking forward to some nicer ones.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 9:47:03 GMT -5
I'm covering my damaged kitchen and bathroom ceilings with bead board planks.
The quotes I got to replace the drywall in the voids left from the skylights were INSANELY high, like >$1K for 2 pieces of 4'x8' drywall installed.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Jul 8, 2019 10:08:30 GMT -5
I have those specialty cabinets in this kitchen. The ones with slots for pans and 2 with slide out drawers. Honestly I think plain cabinets with shelves are more useful. Oh we also have 1 corner lazy Susan, the other corner cabinet is the only one I really have to put all my pans in and the oven. I even found an armoire to put in there to add storage, not ideal but better then nothing. My cabinets are all cherry, very tall at the top, quite beautiful, but not enough and not as functional as I had. If you have the option to add a big pantry unit, I sure would. We did in Texas and it held everything like my pressure cookers, roasters and all the big size pans. I can't visualize your ceiling but I too would want it to match. I know expense sometimes precludes some things though.
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Post by Bonny on Jul 9, 2019 9:49:56 GMT -5
Personally, I'd want it all to match. If I couldn't do it myself, I'd hire a drywall guy. I like the brush texture on most of the ceiling, and it's really subtle. It's terrible to clean, though, so it makes sense to keep it out of the kitchen. I really don't want to put drywall over all that plaster. Probably way more expensive than just skimming over it, too. You'd be surprised how good some of these drywall/finishers can be. The condo had old plaster walls that had to be removed due to a pipe burst. The HOA wouldn't replace the plaster due to mold concerns. I was skeptical that the sheetrock plaster interface would look right. They did a beautiful job and I couldn't tell the difference. You will need someone who has a lot of experience which will translate into more $$$ but if you're a detail person you will appreciate it.
While it's a first world problem I regret not replacing the sheet rock when I re-did my kitchen. It was still in good shape but removing a wall and door left an outline on the wall and ceiling and it bugs me every time I look at it. It probably won't get fixed until I'm ready to sell as the living room will probably need to be finished too. That's a lot of work and disruption for a cosmetic fix!
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Post by debthaven on Jul 9, 2019 14:07:17 GMT -5
Honestly, I'd get someone in to redo it. Otherwise it will drive you crazy for the next 20-30 years. I think it's better to do less, but do it right. No point redoing something badly/not to your liking. DH and I were saying just the other day, the few times we chose the "cheap" option, we've regretted it. Good luck on the remodel!
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jul 9, 2019 18:02:57 GMT -5
I'm actually doing a kitchen remodel myself. The biggest surprise for me was the large variety of different cabinet options they have now. We have a 20 year old contractor grade kitchen right now, with zero bells and whistles, so getting things like a cabinet for trays/baking sheets right next to the stove is exiting (we're pretty boring ) We have basically an L shaped kitchen and had some dead space on the bottom cabinets between the sink on the long side of the L and the stove on the short side - essentially one small base cabinet door, into a cabinet with no shelves. You could get on your hands and knees and reach way back into the corner but it wasn't practical for much. We're moving the stove over about a foot, and now that base cabinet corner can fit a unit with curved pull out shelves:
www.cabinetparts.com/p/kessebohmer-organizers-kitchen-organizers-HAF54132145-p24143?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6KaKgcal4wIVgrbACh0U1A54EAQYAyABEgL4jPD_BwE Similarly, the corner upper cabinets were just two cabinets set at right angles to each other, which wasted the corner space (a big waste in a small kitchen) but the new corner cabinet will have two opposing doors and 3 shelves (it goes almost to the ceiling) so no wasted corner space. And we're going a microwave shelf (right now it sits on the counter) and some customized drawer inserts - I'm not looking forward to the short term chaos but we've spent 2 decades with the cheap cabinets, looking forward to some nicer ones.
I want to replace my lazy susan cabinet with one containing those shelves as well. THe upper cabinet in that corner has a blind shelf that is really hard to use, so I'm looking at one of those bigger corner uppers that used to be really popular but seem to have fallen out of favor.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jul 9, 2019 18:11:13 GMT -5
So, I have no intention of covering up the oh-so-slightly textured ceiling that covers my dining room all the way down 2 adjoining hallways. It is so subtle that I didn't realize it was even textured until I was way up on a ladder painting some of my ceilings. I had to shine a bright light on it to figure out why it felt differently to paint. Here is something similar to mine: Note that this is a very close-up picture of it. (from diy.stackexchange.com/questions/32124/is-there-an-easy-way-to-replicate-this-ceiling-texture)I don't want to add this to the kitchen area, either, so the fake beam idea seems like it will work if my husband doesn't want to cover the kitchen area ceiling with anything.
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Post by nittanycheme on Jul 10, 2019 13:35:35 GMT -5
I have that exact pattern in all of the ceilings in my house. The people who redid my kitchen had to patch the ceiling from where they removed some soffits, and one of the soffits extended over a peninsula that extended into the middle of the kitchen. They did a great job of matching the pattern. They also were able to cover over a section where someone patched the ceiling, and didn't do such a good job with matching the pattern. However, I don't know how much effort it would be have someone do it from scratch, and I expect that covering the other ceilings would be relatively expensive - especially if you have any crown molding or ceiling lights. A false beam of some sort would likely be a good way to go. I've seen some nice uses of those on some of the HGTV shows.
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