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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 4, 2019 12:41:52 GMT -5
Forget it! The US announced major new restrictions on US citizens traveling to Cuba on Tuesday, blocking the most common way Americans are able to visit the island -- through organized tour groups that license US citizens to travel automatically -- and banning US cruise ships from stopping in the country. www.cnn.com/2019/06/04/politics/us-cuba-travel-restrictions/index.html
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 12:45:17 GMT -5
I mean it worked so well the last time we did this for decades.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 4, 2019 22:32:31 GMT -5
On Cuba and elsewhere, his bullying style, ostentatiously devoid of diplomatic niceties, pleases his most devout followers, but so far it doesn't seem to be achieving much of anything. That's because too often it appears to be motivated by his emotion-driven impulses, like those of an insecure child, pushing and menacing real and perceived foes, rather than examining causes and setting a smart course of action. Like the threats against Mexico, the move against Cuba also punishes Americans. US consumers will have to pay for any tariffs imposed on Mexican imports, and US citizens are the ones who will no longer be allowed to travel to Cuba. To punish Cuba for its lack of freedom, Trump is restricting the freedom of Americans to travel there. www.cnn.com/2019/06/04/opinions/trump-new-cuba-regulations-ghitis/index.html
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 4, 2019 22:55:37 GMT -5
The Trump administration has canceled a deal between Major League Baseball and the Cuban Baseball Federation to allow Cuban players to play in the United States. CNN's Patrick Oppmann reports. www.cnn.com/videos/world/2019/04/09/cuba-baseball-trump-oppmann-lkl-vpx.cnnHe's only against Cuba because Obama was for it. If Obama did it,Trump will undo it. He's a petty, petty, little man.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 5, 2019 7:27:45 GMT -5
Also Trump is stuck in a time warp, he can't move past the "good old days" when Cubans were the enemy, women and minorities knew their place and leaded gas filled the air with the smell of freedom.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 9:25:49 GMT -5
WTH? Why must we pick fights withe everyone? That was going to be my next cruise. Probably not for years because I don't exactly have the funds, but I was so excited when they started allowing it and put it on my "list".
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Post by justme on Jun 5, 2019 10:59:29 GMT -5
Not that I think we should have done this, but sooo many people stupidly didn't take what was released in April as the starting point. If I had a Cuba cruise that I could still cancel penalty free when they first announced stuff I would have canceled.
He's also pissed off several huge companies that are going to have to lose some money to compensate their passengers.
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Post by kadee79 on Jun 5, 2019 13:35:02 GMT -5
Wonder if Rubio had any influence on this?
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Post by justme on Jun 5, 2019 14:06:32 GMT -5
Possibly, but I think it was more trying to court voters in a state that often decides the election. But Miami is almost always blue anyways, not sure this would make it turn.
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Post by happyhoix on Jun 5, 2019 15:47:45 GMT -5
Has anyone from the WH explained why they did it?
It's not like Cuba will collapse without the American tourist dollars. The largest number of visitors are Canadian, second largest is European.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 5, 2019 15:55:55 GMT -5
Has anyone from the WH explained why they did it?
It's not like Cuba will collapse without the American tourist dollars. The largest number of visitors are Canadian, second largest is European. To stick it to Obama. He's petty like that.
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Post by happyhoix on Jun 5, 2019 17:40:31 GMT -5
Has anyone from the WH explained why they did it?
It's not like Cuba will collapse without the American tourist dollars. The largest number of visitors are Canadian, second largest is European. To stick it to Obama. He's petty like that. He's got a lot of people living in his head, doesn't he.
Obama, Clinton, McCain.
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Post by justme on Jun 5, 2019 20:21:02 GMT -5
Has anyone from the WH explained why they did it?
It's not like Cuba will collapse without the American tourist dollars. The largest number of visitors are Canadian, second largest is European. To stick it to Obama. He's petty like that. I do think trying to court the Cuban American vote in Miami is part of it. Maybe more forefront in his team over him, but Florida is a must win and he barely won. And all the 2018 races were razor thin.
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Post by Value Buy on Jun 6, 2019 8:56:57 GMT -5
Forget it! The US announced major new restrictions on US citizens traveling to Cuba on Tuesday, blocking the most common way Americans are able to visit the island -- through organized tour groups that license US citizens to travel automatically -- and banning US cruise ships from stopping in the country. www.cnn.com/2019/06/04/politics/us-cuba-travel-restrictions/index.htmlI read your link. I noticed he did not stop airline travel to Cuba. This is where people go there for more than a three hour lay over where tourists spend money for three hours walking dilapidated streets. The air flights allow people to go back visit family conduct business etc. Ifhe wanted to really hurt Cuba airflights would have been stopped. Now people will simply have totake a cruse from a Canadian port. A win for you!
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 6, 2019 12:09:28 GMT -5
Forget it! The US announced major new restrictions on US citizens traveling to Cuba on Tuesday, blocking the most common way Americans are able to visit the island -- through organized tour groups that license US citizens to travel automatically -- and banning US cruise ships from stopping in the country. www.cnn.com/2019/06/04/politics/us-cuba-travel-restrictions/index.htmlI read your link. I noticed he did not stop airline travel to Cuba. This is where people go there for more than a three hour lay over where tourists spend money for three hours walking dilapidated streets. The air flights allow people to go back visit family conduct business etc.Ifhe wanted to really hurt Cuba airflights would have been stopped. Now people will simply have totake a cruse from a Canadian port. A win for you! Family. Ordinary citizens can't go, book a hotel on the beach for a week and wander around, enjoying the beaches, nightlife and sights. Cuba is communist, you know. That being said, China is also communist. Funny how American tourists are still allowed to visit.
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Post by justme on Jun 6, 2019 12:18:41 GMT -5
I read your link. I noticed he did not stop airline travel to Cuba. This is where people go there for more than a three hour lay over where tourists spend money for three hours walking dilapidated streets. The air flights allow people to go back visit family conduct business etc.Ifhe wanted to really hurt Cuba airflights would have been stopped. Now people will simply have totake a cruse from a Canadian port. A win for you! Family. Ordinary citizens can't go, book a hotel on the beach for a week and wander around, enjoying the beaches, nightlife and sights. Cuba is communist, you know. That being said, China is also communist. Funny how American tourists are still allowed to visit. To be fair, US citizens couldn't do this for the few years the ban was temporarily lifted. Didn't satisfy one of the few reasons allowed to visit.
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