schildi
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Post by schildi on Mar 5, 2019 21:37:33 GMT -5
Hi All! I hope somebody here can help me with this question: I am living in Oregon, and I am puzzled on how to correctly enter the state income tax "kicker" from last years return (2017). I did receive a form 1099G showing the kicker amount. Here is the full scenario: For 2017, $12,000 has been deducted from my paycheck for state income taxes. That's the number ($12K) that I claimed on the 2017 return (itemized deduction). For the state return, the kicker (some sort of refund due to the state having collected too much?) amount turned out to be $700. That $700 was added to my credits for a total of $12,700 (=12,000+700). The tax table showed that my total state income tax is $12,400 based on income and Federal return. So basically, if there would not have been the kicker, I would have owed $400 (=12,400-12,000), but with the kicker I basically got $300 (=12,700-12,400) back. Now, fast forward to this year. I got a form 1099G showing the $700 kicker, but not the $300 refund. What number goes on line 10 of schedule 1? (a) $300 (the refund I got) (b) $700 (the kicker amount) or (c) $1,000 (kicker + refund) Which is the correct number? I have the bad feeling that it's (c), even though I think it should be (a), because the total state income tax that I ended up paying in 2017 is $11,700 (=12,000-300 refund), and $12K has been reported on the 2017 return, so bottom line I got $300 back. Turbo Tax has btw used (b), but I somehow don't trust that. If somebody could help me out here, I would really appreciate it! Thanks a lot in advance!
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gacpa
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Post by gacpa on Mar 7, 2019 16:56:56 GMT -5
I think $700 is the right answer. If you itemize on your federal return, you get a deduction for total state income taxes paid ( or you used to) and then if you get a refund of state taxes, it is income to you in the next year because you got a federal deduction for the whole amount paid ($12,700). Turbotax should have brought forward the $700 into 2018 as income on the federal return.
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Post by rangerj on Mar 11, 2019 11:49:19 GMT -5
The state treated you $700 as a deposit or estimated payment so you did receive a "refund" of $700. Currently $400 is used for you current state tax and the excess $300 refunded. The taxable amount would be the $700 BUT, The "Tax Benefit Doctrine" may apply. The $700 is taxable "to the extent" you received a tax benefit. A good tax program will calculate this for you.
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Sharon
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Post by Sharon on Mar 11, 2019 22:52:28 GMT -5
My accountant put the kicker on line 10 under Taxable refunds, credits, or offsets of state and local income taxes. The kicker is a uniquely Oregon thing. It "kicks in" when the state revenue exceeds projections by at least 2%. The excess is then refunded back to taxpayers as a credit on your taxes. For a while it was returned via an extra check, usually just before Christmas.
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Post by schildi on Mar 12, 2019 0:05:09 GMT -5
Thanks a lot for your responses, Sharon, rangerj & gacpa. It looks like you all agree that I should enter the $700 kicker amount only as it looks like. I am not 100% sure I understand why the $300 refund would not have to be added as well, is it because the $400 minus $300 = $100 would be added to state income taxes for 2018? If that's the case, then that would make sense. Again, thanks a lot for the feedback!
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