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Post by Value Buy on Nov 30, 2018 8:36:58 GMT -5
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Post by Value Buy on Nov 30, 2018 8:38:13 GMT -5
If President Trump does not run in 2019, is Mitt going to oppose Pence for the position, or back Pence? Would Mitt consider the VP slot?
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Post by happyhoix on Nov 30, 2018 9:04:19 GMT -5
The Romney/Trump relationship has been very up and down. Romney used to be a very fierce Trump critic. Not sure where he stands now. It will be interesting to see if he has some balls when it comes to Trump or if he toadies.
As for Romney possibly running in 2020, I think whether Trump runs or not, there will be a big field of GOPers also trying for the nomination. Romney, being a long term politician, will no doubt weigh how popular he thinks Trump is at the time before he decides to throw his hat into the ring - him and all the other candidates. If Trump does fabulous things between now and then, Romney won't challenge him. If Trump continues to struggle - maybe so.
How's that for firm declarative predictions . A lifetime of backing the losing candidates has made me reluctant to try to predict anything political.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 10:02:14 GMT -5
I think Romney fills McCains role as the new GOP Maverick and becomes a huge thorn in Trumps side.
IMO he despises Trump and doesn’t have to worry about any backlash for reelection in 6 years as I believe he has a ton of capital with Utah voters and it would take something extraordinary for them to vote him out.
McConnell is a smart politician and knows Romney isn’t your normal freshman Senator, I think he treats him as such.
This country would have been far better off had Romney been elected in 12, Trumps window never would have opened.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 30, 2018 13:18:43 GMT -5
if Trump runs, the GOP will back him, and he will run unopposed (no primary).
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 30, 2018 13:38:24 GMT -5
if Trump runs, the GOP will back him, and he will run unopposed (no primary). I think there will be an unsuccessful attempt to deny him the nomination. I see Kasich or Flake as two of the more likely to give it a go. Iowa, New Hampshire, whatever is after, and then done.
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Post by PK Bucko on Nov 30, 2018 14:01:29 GMT -5
if Trump runs, the GOP will back him, and he will run unopposed (no primary). I think there will be an unsuccessful attempt to deny him the nomination. I see Kasich or Flake as two of the more likely to give it a go. Iowa, New Hampshire, whatever is after, and then done. If the economy tanks, it could happen. Think Carter vs Kennedy in 1980. If the economy does not tank, and Trump runs again, he'll walk to the nomination without much of a fight.
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Post by happyhoix on Nov 30, 2018 14:05:37 GMT -5
I think there will be an unsuccessful attempt to deny him the nomination. I see Kasich or Flake as two of the more likely to give it a go. Iowa, New Hampshire, whatever is after, and then done. If the economy tanks, it could happen. Think Carter vs Kennedy in 1980. If the economy does not tank, and Trump runs again, he'll walk to the nomination without much of a fight. This. A lot can happen in two years, but probably the most serious problem for Trump is if the economy goes south. I don't think even embarrassing findings from the Mueller investigation would be worse than that, because the devoted Trump followers will ignore the findings, but if he doesn't deliver on a fabulous, burning hot economy, that would be the end, I think.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 30, 2018 14:28:02 GMT -5
I think there will be an unsuccessful attempt to deny him the nomination. I see Kasich or Flake as two of the more likely to give it a go. Iowa, New Hampshire, whatever is after, and then done. If the economy tanks, it could happen. Think Carter vs Kennedy in 1980. If the economy does not tank, and Trump runs again, he'll walk to the nomination without much of a fight. If the economy tanks, I don't see him seeking reelection.
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Post by PK Bucko on Nov 30, 2018 14:29:20 GMT -5
If the economy tanks, it could happen. Think Carter vs Kennedy in 1980. If the economy does not tank, and Trump runs again, he'll walk to the nomination without much of a fight. If the economy tanks, I don't see him seeking reelection. There's a lot of reasons that he may not seek reelection. That being one of them.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 30, 2018 14:47:02 GMT -5
if Trump runs, the GOP will back him, and he will run unopposed (no primary). I think there will be an unsuccessful attempt to deny him the nomination. I see Kasich or Flake as two of the more likely to give it a go. Iowa, New Hampshire, whatever is after, and then done. I will be pretty shocked if Flake doesn't run. Regardless of the economy.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Nov 30, 2018 14:53:34 GMT -5
I think there will be an unsuccessful attempt to deny him the nomination. I see Kasich or Flake as two of the more likely to give it a go. Iowa, New Hampshire, whatever is after, and then done. I will be pretty shocked if Flake doesn't run. Regardless of the economy. I'd expect Flake to get his ass handed to himself by the voters. I don't think voters from either party have much affection for Flake.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 30, 2018 16:42:57 GMT -5
I will be pretty shocked if Flake doesn't run. Regardless of the economy. I'd expect Flake to get his ass handed to himself by the voters. I don't think voters from either party have much affection for Flake. He **might** get a little action in the primaries. He is a traditional conservative. So, if there are conservative voters who aren't on the Trump train (and they do exist...quietly) they will vote for him. I don't think Trump will lose the nomination, unless something bat shit crazy happens, which seems possible. As far as the general election, it would depend on who the Dems put up. I think he would do great against Warren, but not Beto.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 30, 2018 17:08:55 GMT -5
I think there will be an unsuccessful attempt to deny him the nomination. I see Kasich or Flake as two of the more likely to give it a go. Iowa, New Hampshire, whatever is after, and then done. If the economy tanks, it could happen. Think Carter vs Kennedy in 1980. If the economy does not tank, and Trump runs again, he'll walk to the nomination without much of a fight. no. Carter -vs- Reagan. what finally did Carter in was Iran, however.
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Post by Value Buy on Nov 30, 2018 23:37:20 GMT -5
I think there will be an unsuccessful attempt to deny him the nomination. I see Kasich or Flake as two of the more likely to give it a go. Iowa, New Hampshire, whatever is after, and then done. If the economy tanks, it could happen. Think Carter vs Kennedy in 1980. If the economy does not tank, and Trump runs again, he'll walk to the nomination without much of a fight. Quite frankly, even if Trump runs again, I think he loses. He may take Florida, but I believe he will lose Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, and probably Ohio regardless if the economy is still strong. Who ever is the democratic candidate will not fail to go to the northern states and hold big rallies like Clinton did. That will be the key
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 1, 2018 0:38:50 GMT -5
... big rallies ... That will be the key Not platform. Not policy proposals. Not personality. Big rallies. Okay, not sure you are wrong but sad to think the key to a successful campaign for President of the United States of America is big rallies.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 1, 2018 4:04:15 GMT -5
If the economy tanks, it could happen. Think Carter vs Kennedy in 1980. If the economy does not tank, and Trump runs again, he'll walk to the nomination without much of a fight. Quite frankly, even if Trump runs again, I think he loses. He may take Florida, but I believe he will lose Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, and probably Ohio regardless if the economy is still strong. Who ever is the democratic candidate will not fail to go to the northern states and hold big rallies like Clinton did. That will be the key i disagree. the Democrats will need to field someone reasonable, or he has a real chance of winning.
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Post by PK Bucko on Dec 4, 2018 14:45:37 GMT -5
If the economy tanks, it could happen. Think Carter vs Kennedy in 1980. If the economy does not tank, and Trump runs again, he'll walk to the nomination without much of a fight. no. Carter -vs- Reagan. what finally did Carter in was Iran, however. Sorry for the late response... I was thinking Carter vs. Kennedy. Kennedy gave Carter a strong run in the primary. And yes there's no doubt that Iran was Carter's demise.
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Post by dondub on Dec 4, 2018 14:53:10 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 4, 2018 17:23:40 GMT -5
no. Carter -vs- Reagan. what finally did Carter in was Iran, however. Sorry for the late response... I was thinking Carter vs. Kennedy. Kennedy gave Carter a strong run in the primary. And yes there's no doubt that Iran was Carter's demise. i thought you were talking about the GE. i have no idea about the primary, actually. i was not eligible to vote back then.
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