Value Buy
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 17:57:07 GMT -5
Posts: 18,680 
Today's Mood: Getting better by the day!
Location: In the middle of enjoying retirement!
Favorite Drink: Zombie Dust from Three Floyd's brewery
Mini-Profile Name Color: e61975
Mini-Profile Text Color: 196ce6
|
Post by Value Buy on Nov 23, 2018 9:52:14 GMT -5
|
|
Value Buy
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 17:57:07 GMT -5
Posts: 18,680
Today's Mood: Getting better by the day!
Location: In the middle of enjoying retirement!
Favorite Drink: Zombie Dust from Three Floyd's brewery
Mini-Profile Name Color: e61975
Mini-Profile Text Color: 196ce6
|
Post by Value Buy on Nov 23, 2018 9:52:47 GMT -5
And yet she believes we should let them all in!
|
|
mroped
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 17, 2014 17:36:56 GMT -5
Posts: 3,453
|
Post by mroped on Nov 23, 2018 10:23:05 GMT -5
What we have as illegal immigration doesn’t compare with what EU has.
Western Europe has been under a constant influx of immigrants from Eastern Europe due to the creation and expansion of Eurozone.
Countries like Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary didn’t have easy and direct acces to the Western European labor markets until 2001 or so. Since, millions upon millions migrated west and their sole purpose is work. That puts an extreme strain on certain economies when you have double the number of available labor force.
What hapens is that these Eastern European countries are heavily depressed or fighting it and those willing and able are fleeing in troves. There is very little or no reason to fear government or segregation of any kind in said countries so they are purely moving for economical reason.
To put it in comparison with US would be like the whole Rust Belt, Corn Belt would migrate to the coastal and border stated and leave Central US just about void .
And if that were not enough, Western Europe took in huge numbers of refugee from the Syrian conflict. Now they are getting to the point where the labor market is over saturated.
Their problem would be easily solved if the Eastern European countries would step up, end or at least reduce the corruption in their governments and take care more of their countries than about enrichming themselves individually.
(that starts to sound familiar around here!)
|
|
Tennesseer
Member Emeritus
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 21:58:42 GMT -5
Posts: 64,828
|
Post by Tennesseer on Nov 23, 2018 10:27:32 GMT -5
What we have as illegal immigration doesn’t compare with what EU has. Western Europe has been under a constant influx of immigrants from Eastern Europe due to the creation and expansion of Eurozone. Countries like Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary didn’t have easy and direct acces to the Western European labor markets until 2001 or so. Since, millions upon millions migrated west and their sole purpose is work. That puts an extreme strain on certain economies when you have double the number of available labor force. What hapens is that these Eastern European countries are heavily depressed or fighting it and those willing and able are fleeing in troves. There is very little or no reason to fear government or segregation of any kind in said countries so they are purely moving for economical reason. To put it in comparison with US would be like the whole Rust Belt, Corn Belt would migrate to the coastal and border stated and leave Central US just about void . And if that were not enough, Western Europe took in huge numbers of refugee from the Syrian conflict. Now they are getting to the point where the labor market is over saturated. Their problem would be easily solved if the Eastern European countries would step up, end or at least reduce the corruption in their governments and take care more of their countries than about enrichming themselves individually. (that starts to sound familiar around here!) Glad to see someone understands the greater picture.  |
|
kadee79
Senior Associate
S.W. Ga., zone 8b, out in the boonies!
Joined: Mar 30, 2011 15:12:55 GMT -5
Posts: 10,868 
|
Post by kadee79 on Nov 23, 2018 10:29:41 GMT -5
And yet she believes we should let them all in! Link with proof of that? |
|
weltschmerz
Community Leader
Joined: Jul 25, 2011 13:37:39 GMT -5
Posts: 38,962
|
Post by weltschmerz on Nov 23, 2018 13:18:38 GMT -5
And yet she believes we should let them all in! Yes, please backup your statement that you should let them ALL in. |
|
djAdvocate
Member Emeritus
only posting when the mood strikes me.
Joined: Jun 21, 2011 12:33:54 GMT -5
Posts: 76,703
Mini-Profile Background: {"image":"","color":"000307"}
|
Post by djAdvocate on Nov 23, 2018 14:05:07 GMT -5
And yet she believes we should let them all in! is hyperbole your servant, or your master? |
|
Gardening Grandma
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:39:46 GMT -5
Posts: 17,962
|
Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 23, 2018 16:02:27 GMT -5
And yet she believes we should let them all in! Since she’s never said that, how do you know what she believes? |
|
Value Buy
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 17:57:07 GMT -5
Posts: 18,680
Today's Mood: Getting better by the day!
Location: In the middle of enjoying retirement!
Favorite Drink: Zombie Dust from Three Floyd's brewery
Mini-Profile Name Color: e61975
Mini-Profile Text Color: 196ce6
|
Post by Value Buy on Nov 26, 2018 15:04:50 GMT -5
|
|
weltschmerz
Community Leader
Joined: Jul 25, 2011 13:37:39 GMT -5
Posts: 38,962
|
Post by weltschmerz on Nov 26, 2018 15:15:40 GMT -5
That has nothing to do with your statement that "she thinks we should let them all in". Are you ever going to back this up, or admit you pulled it out of your ass? |
|
Tennesseer
Member Emeritus
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 21:58:42 GMT -5
Posts: 64,828
|
Post by Tennesseer on Nov 26, 2018 16:59:54 GMT -5
You used a 32 month old article (The Washington Times - Thursday, March 17, 2016) to make some type of point? Really? |
|
dondub
Senior Associate
The meek shall indeed inherit the earth but only after the Visigoths are done with it.
Joined: Jan 16, 2014 19:31:06 GMT -5
Posts: 12,110
Location: Seattle
Favorite Drink: Laphroig
|
Post by dondub on Nov 26, 2018 17:06:07 GMT -5
From the Moonie Cult Times?
|
|
Tennesseer
Member Emeritus
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 21:58:42 GMT -5
Posts: 64,828
|
Post by Tennesseer on Nov 26, 2018 17:18:26 GMT -5
|
|
weltschmerz
Community Leader
Joined: Jul 25, 2011 13:37:39 GMT -5
Posts: 38,962
|
Post by weltschmerz on Nov 26, 2018 17:20:05 GMT -5
And yet she believes we should let them all in! Load of bullshit. |
|
Gardening Grandma
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:39:46 GMT -5
Posts: 17,962
|
Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 26, 2018 18:29:14 GMT -5
From your (almost 3 year old) link: "I think we’ve done a really good job securing the border and I think those that say we haven’t are not paying attention. “Now I think it’s time to turn our attention to comprehensive immigration reform,” And your interpretation is "Let them all in"... Have I got that right? |
|
Rukh O'Rorke
Senior Associate
Joined: Jul 4, 2016 13:31:15 GMT -5
Posts: 10,329
|
Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Nov 26, 2018 18:33:24 GMT -5
And yet she believes we should let them all in! is hyperbole your servant, or your master? Oooooo! |
|
